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overclock 2000+ to ?
Hello group,
I have an Abit KD7A motherboard with an AMD T'bird chip 2000+ 266. I have a Volcano 9 fant for cooling. It does excellent at factory settings. But I want to get a little more for my video card to work with for some gaming. My cpu is being recognized autuomatically via with my KD7A and a WinXP Pro install at the correct settings. But I have yet to try to overclock anything with this current combo yet. What are some reasonable overclock settings? I have some mixed (3 sticks) sticks of pc2100 ram that I assume is my weak link in overclocking my current combo. Any tips are appreciated. Thanks group, SL |
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Horrible first post, sorry.
Ran CPU-Z as found in a thread in here. Here is what it reported: Cpu 2000+ CPU FSB Clock (Mhz) -- 133 Ratio---------------------4:2:1 Multiplier Factor---------x12.5 Power Supply: Cpu Core Voltage-----1.600v AGP Voltage----------1.55v DDR Voltage----------2.60v NB Voltage------------2.65v I also failed to mention the video card is my Ati 9500pro 128 (not the modable one). I also have all upates for all hardware/software to date. The only thing suspect in the CPU-Z report is this: I have a KT400...it reports KT600. I also have an AMD Thunderbird...it reports AMD Thoroughbred. Could that be errant info? Ive run other diagnostic tests before, but did not get the Thoroughbred results before. Thanks all, SL "SL" wrote in message . .. Hello group, I have an Abit KD7A motherboard with an AMD T'bird chip 2000+ 266. I have a Volcano 9 fant for cooling. It does excellent at factory settings. But I want to get a little more for my video card to work with for some gaming. My cpu is being recognized autuomatically via with my KD7A and a WinXP Pro install at the correct settings. But I have yet to try to overclock anything with this current combo yet. What are some reasonable overclock settings? I have some mixed (3 sticks) sticks of pc2100 ram that I assume is my weak link in overclocking my current combo. Any tips are appreciated. Thanks group, SL |
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On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 05:29:15 +0000, SL wrote:
Horrible first post, sorry. Ran CPU-Z as found in a thread in here. Here is what it reported: Cpu 2000+ CPU FSB Clock (Mhz) -- 133 Ratio---------------------4:2:1 Multiplier Factor---------x12.5 Power Supply: Cpu Core Voltage-----1.600v AGP Voltage----------1.55v DDR Voltage----------2.60v NB Voltage------------2.65v I also failed to mention the video card is my Ati 9500pro 128 (not the modable one). I also have all upates for all hardware/software to date. The only thing suspect in the CPU-Z report is this: I have a KT400...it reports KT600. I also have an AMD Thunderbird...it reports AMD Thoroughbred. Could that be errant info? Ive run other diagnostic tests before, but did not get the Thoroughbred results before. They don't make a 2000+ thunderbird. So you either have a 2000+ Palomino, Tbred A core, Tbred B core, or you don't have a 2000+. Check cpuid to see what's in there. Looking at vcore of 1.60v, it's looks like a tbred unless you changed the voltage from default. Raise vcore to 1.65v, change multiplier to 13.5 and see if it reports a 2200+. If it does, then change multiplier to 15 and see if you get a 2400+. if it won't boot at that, you perobably have a Tbred A core and won't be able to go much over 1900MHz. -- Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB) http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.html |
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Here is mo
AMD Athlon XP Thoroughbred Family 6 Ext. Family 7 Model 8 Ext. Model 8 Stepping 0 Revision A0 Technology 0.13u I will try to use some of the multiplier/voltages you suggested. Thanks for the tips. Do you also have any good sites to recommend on the matter? There seem to be a lot of hits using google. Thanks again, SL "Wes Newell" wrote in message news On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 05:29:15 +0000, SL wrote: Horrible first post, sorry. Ran CPU-Z as found in a thread in here. Here is what it reported: Cpu 2000+ CPU FSB Clock (Mhz) -- 133 Ratio---------------------4:2:1 Multiplier Factor---------x12.5 Power Supply: Cpu Core Voltage-----1.600v AGP Voltage----------1.55v DDR Voltage----------2.60v NB Voltage------------2.65v I also failed to mention the video card is my Ati 9500pro 128 (not the modable one). I also have all upates for all hardware/software to date. The only thing suspect in the CPU-Z report is this: I have a KT400...it reports KT600. I also have an AMD Thunderbird...it reports AMD Thoroughbred. Could that be errant info? Ive run other diagnostic tests before, but did not get the Thoroughbred results before. They don't make a 2000+ thunderbird. So you either have a 2000+ Palomino, Tbred A core, Tbred B core, or you don't have a 2000+. Check cpuid to see what's in there. Looking at vcore of 1.60v, it's looks like a tbred unless you changed the voltage from default. Raise vcore to 1.65v, change multiplier to 13.5 and see if it reports a 2200+. If it does, then change multiplier to 15 and see if you get a 2400+. if it won't boot at that, you perobably have a Tbred A core and won't be able to go much over 1900MHz. -- Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB) http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.html |
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On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:37:51 +0000, SL wrote:
Here is mo AMD Athlon XP Thoroughbred Family 6 Ext. Family 7 Model 8 Ext. Model 8 Stepping 0 Revision A0 Technology 0.13u I will try to use some of the multiplier/voltages you suggested. Thanks for the tips. Do you also have any good sites to recommend on the matter? There seem to be a lot of hits using google. It's a Tbred A core. cpuid 680 (Family Model,Stepping). Shouldn't have a problem running it as a 2200+ (1800MHz). Anything higher than that will be hit or miss. There's more info in the site below. -- Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB) http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.html |
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Hello Wes,
I gave it a quick shot this morning. I tried booting using "user defined" settings via my bios (latest flash for KD7A). I set it at a 1.650 Vcore and set the multiplier at 13.5. It did boot almost fully at that setting. I could recognize the mouse pointer, but that was about it. I reset to factory settings for my chip. I then tried using the computers settings it had (again in bios) for a 2200+ chip. The settings were what you recommended with the exception of the Vcore stayed at its 1.600v setting. I did not get past the POST. I had to reset the cmos to alter the settings back default. The monitor was blank, so I had to. I did go to the link you provided, nice. But like I said, It was a quick attempt. I had to go to work Anyways, got back home and posted the results. Might my restriction be my generic chips of pc2100? Or how about the only other gizmo in a pci slot, the SBlive Value card? Thanks, SL "Wes Newell" wrote in message news On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:37:51 +0000, SL wrote: Here is mo AMD Athlon XP Thoroughbred Family 6 Ext. Family 7 Model 8 Ext. Model 8 Stepping 0 Revision A0 Technology 0.13u I will try to use some of the multiplier/voltages you suggested. Thanks for the tips. Do you also have any good sites to recommend on the matter? There seem to be a lot of hits using google. It's a Tbred A core. cpuid 680 (Family Model,Stepping). Shouldn't have a problem running it as a 2200+ (1800MHz). Anything higher than that will be hit or miss. There's more info in the site below. -- Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB) http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.html |
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On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:49:20 +0000, SL wrote:
"Wes Newell" wrote in message news It's a Tbred A core. cpuid 680 (Family Model,Stepping). Shouldn't have a problem running it as a 2200+ (1800MHz). Anything higher than that will be hit or miss. There's more info in the site below. I gave it a quick shot this morning. I tried booting using "user defined" settings via my bios (latest flash for KD7A). I set it at a 1.650 Vcore and set the multiplier at 13.5. It did boot almost fully at that setting. I could recognize the mouse pointer, but that was about it. Then try the same settings with more vcore until it's stable and boots and runs. Use a boot cd or something besides the HD while tesing so you don't screw up your OS install. Personally, I use a Memtest boot cd. When it passes that is the only time I let it boot from the HD. it may be ok at 1.675v or it may take up to 1.75v. Some people will go on up to 1.85v or higher, but I don't like to run mine more than .1v over the default for the speed of the cpu I'm trying to reach. Default for a 2200+ A core is 1.65v. I reset to factory settings for my chip. I then tried using the computers settings it had (again in bios) for a 2200+ chip. The settings were what you recommended with the exception of the Vcore stayed at its 1.600v setting. I did not get past the POST. I had to reset the cmos to alter the settings back default. The monitor was blank, so I had to. Some (most?) Abit boards have a Speed Error Hold setting in the bios. Make sure it's disabled if you want to use a setting other than the actual cpu or that's what it means. It won't boot, but hold.:-) Anyways, got back home and posted the results. Might my restriction be my generic chips of pc2100? Or how about the only other gizmo in a pci slot, the SBlive Value card? Wouldn't worry about the ram unless you start messing with the fsb. You realize your not going to get a lot more speed out of this cpu. A cores just don't overclock much. Your default speed is 1666Mhz as a 2000+, so we're only talking about another 134MHZ. if you can't get it to work at 13.5x133 try 13x133. -- Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB) http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.html |
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I like the boot cd idea. I use the cd boot method on the few new HD's ive
used for a WinXP install. I googled Memtest and see what I believe your talking about. Is it like a bootable floppy? If so, I will try. Unfortunatly, I have only one lowly single cdr left until I go to the store. So, I dont want to make a mistake in creating a Memtest Bootable CD. Is there a simple method for creating one. I do almost all my burning with Nero 5.5. Will that suffice as the burning software for this? "Wes Newell" wrote in message news On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:49:20 +0000, SL wrote: "Wes Newell" wrote in message news It's a Tbred A core. cpuid 680 (Family Model,Stepping). Shouldn't have a problem running it as a 2200+ (1800MHz). Anything higher than that will be hit or miss. There's more info in the site below. I gave it a quick shot this morning. I tried booting using "user defined" settings via my bios (latest flash for KD7A). I set it at a 1.650 Vcore and set the multiplier at 13.5. It did boot almost fully at that setting. I could recognize the mouse pointer, but that was about it. Then try the same settings with more vcore until it's stable and boots and runs. Use a boot cd or something besides the HD while tesing so you don't screw up your OS install. Personally, I use a Memtest boot cd. When it passes that is the only time I let it boot from the HD. it may be ok at 1.675v or it may take up to 1.75v. Some people will go on up to 1.85v or higher, but I don't like to run mine more than .1v over the default for the speed of the cpu I'm trying to reach. Default for a 2200+ A core is 1.65v. I reset to factory settings for my chip. I then tried using the computers settings it had (again in bios) for a 2200+ chip. The settings were what you recommended with the exception of the Vcore stayed at its 1.600v setting. I did not get past the POST. I had to reset the cmos to alter the settings back default. The monitor was blank, so I had to. Some (most?) Abit boards have a Speed Error Hold setting in the bios. Make sure it's disabled if you want to use a setting other than the actual cpu or that's what it means. It won't boot, but hold.:-) Anyways, got back home and posted the results. Might my restriction be my generic chips of pc2100? Or how about the only other gizmo in a pci slot, the SBlive Value card? Wouldn't worry about the ram unless you start messing with the fsb. You realize your not going to get a lot more speed out of this cpu. A cores just don't overclock much. Your default speed is 1666Mhz as a 2000+, so we're only talking about another 134MHZ. if you can't get it to work at 13.5x133 try 13x133. -- Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB) http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.html |
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On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:05:41 +0000, SL wrote:
I like the boot cd idea. I use the cd boot method on the few new HD's ive used for a WinXP install. I googled Memtest and see what I believe your talking about. Is it like a bootable floppy? If so, I will try. Unfortunatly, I have only one lowly single cdr left until I go to the store. So, I dont want to make a mistake in creating a Memtest Bootable CD. Is there a simple method for creating one. I do almost all my burning with Nero 5.5. Will that suffice as the burning software for this? I use Linux. I use command line dd command to copy a boot image to floppy. For CD's I use one of several frontends for CDrecord. I'm sure Nero can do the same, but I haven't used it. Some where you would need to tell it that it's an image, and not to copy as a file. -- Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB) http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.html |
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I do know nero offers an image copy in addition to a typical file copy
function. But where are the necessary files to be found for this? Do you have an addy? SL "Wes Newell" wrote in message news On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:05:41 +0000, SL wrote: I like the boot cd idea. I use the cd boot method on the few new HD's ive used for a WinXP install. I googled Memtest and see what I believe your talking about. Is it like a bootable floppy? If so, I will try. Unfortunatly, I have only one lowly single cdr left until I go to the store. So, I dont want to make a mistake in creating a Memtest Bootable CD. Is there a simple method for creating one. I do almost all my burning with Nero 5.5. Will that suffice as the burning software for this? I use Linux. I use command line dd command to copy a boot image to floppy. For CD's I use one of several frontends for CDrecord. I'm sure Nero can do the same, but I haven't used it. Some where you would need to tell it that it's an image, and not to copy as a file. -- Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB) http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.html |
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