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'Sapphire' vs ATI 'Proper' - significant differences? Worth Considering (Sapphire)???
Sapphire is one of the partners that manufactures cards for ATI, and they
sell them cheaper under their own brand name. Some models are identical to the ATI hardware, some are not. I've used several Sapphire cards and consider them excellent values. They use standard ATI drivers. If all you want is a card that will play DVD movies and games on a TV set, they're perfect. However, with an AIW the software package is important. Make sure you know what you are getting. There are plenty of other DVD players, but the capture/tuner software is key if you plan to use those functions. If an AIW is what you need, for a home-theater PC for instance, I'd get an ATI. Read some reviews of the AIW and see how many of the multimedia features you truly need and want. They are complex overkill for some, vital necessities for others. "Hammer Toe" wrote in message ... I'm was considering upgrading to a new All-In-Wonder Card (specifically the ATI All-In-Wonder 9600 Pro) when I became aware, for the first time, of a line from/called 'Sapphire' and was wondering if anyone was aware and could be so kind as to attempt to summarize the DIFFERENCES (hardware, software and 'support') between them, pros and cons of buying one specific card/brand over the other, etc. Are (comparable) cards identical, essentially identical, or 'less'. More importantly, what about SOFTWARE? In the case of All-In-Wonder cards for example, what does one get in terms of Multimedia Center software? a) Identical To ATI's MM software? b) Something good/very simillar? c) Other? What about Support/Software+Driver Upgrades? Anyone have an opinion on how the two compare? Overall, assuming that a comparable 'Sapphire' All-In-Wonder product was available and cost less than the comparable ATI version, would one be advised to still 'pay extra' for the ATI Product and why? TIA. |
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PLEASE stay away from Sapphi they generally sucks, their implemenation
sucks and I wonder if they follow Ati's strict guidelines and rules for thermal solutions: heatsink too heavy and not properly placed risks to damage the open die beneath!! See my post above. I repeat: stay away. Try some other different makes such Gigabyte or go nVidias (equally fast and much more better built) "Hammer Toe" wrote in message ... I'm was considering upgrading to a new All-In-Wonder Card (specifically the ATI All-In-Wonder 9600 Pro) when I became aware, for the first time, of a line from/called 'Sapphire' and was wondering if anyone was aware and could be so kind as to attempt to summarize the DIFFERENCES (hardware, software and 'support') between them, pros and cons of buying one specific card/brand over the other, etc. Are (comparable) cards identical, essentially identical, or 'less'. More importantly, what about SOFTWARE? In the case of All-In-Wonder cards for example, what does one get in terms of Multimedia Center software? a) Identical To ATI's MM software? b) Something good/very simillar? c) Other? What about Support/Software+Driver Upgrades? Anyone have an opinion on how the two compare? Overall, assuming that a comparable 'Sapphire' All-In-Wonder product was available and cost less than the comparable ATI version, would one be advised to still 'pay extra' for the ATI Product and why? TIA. |
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- Jopo75 stood up at show-n-tell, in , and said: PLEASE stay away from Sapphi they generally sucks, their implemenation sucks and I wonder if they follow Ati's strict guidelines and rules for thermal solutions: heatsink too heavy and not properly placed risks to damage the open die beneath!! See my post above. I repeat: stay away. Try some other different makes such Gigabyte or go nVidias (equally fast and much more better built) Yeah, go get an nVidia. So long, sucker. "Hammer Toe" wrote in message ... I'm was considering upgrading to a new All-In-Wonder Card (specifically the ATI All-In-Wonder 9600 Pro) when I became aware, for the first time, of a line from/called 'Sapphire' and was wondering if anyone was aware and could be so kind as to attempt to summarize the DIFFERENCES (hardware, software and 'support') between them, pros and cons of buying one specific card/brand over the other, etc. Are (comparable) cards identical, essentially identical, or 'less'. More importantly, what about SOFTWARE? In the case of All-In-Wonder cards for example, what does one get in terms of Multimedia Center software? a) Identical To ATI's MM software? b) Something good/very simillar? c) Other? What about Support/Software+Driver Upgrades? Anyone have an opinion on how the two compare? Overall, assuming that a comparable 'Sapphire' All-In-Wonder product was available and cost less than the comparable ATI version, would one be advised to still 'pay extra' for the ATI Product and why? TIA. -- Strontium "It's no surprise, to me. I am my own worst enemy. `Cause every now, and then, I kick the livin' **** `outta me." - Lit |
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Just so you know, the Built by Ati is actually built by Sapphire. Ati
manufactures the gpu's only and for their "Built by Ati" uses Sapphire as a subcontractor. Alternatively, Sapphire also has their own brand. "Jopo75" wrote in message ... PLEASE stay away from Sapphi they generally sucks, their implemenation sucks and I wonder if they follow Ati's strict guidelines and rules for thermal solutions: heatsink too heavy and not properly placed risks to damage the open die beneath!! See my post above. I repeat: stay away. Try some other different makes such Gigabyte or go nVidias (equally fast and much more better built) "Hammer Toe" wrote in message ... I'm was considering upgrading to a new All-In-Wonder Card (specifically the ATI All-In-Wonder 9600 Pro) when I became aware, for the first time, of a line from/called 'Sapphire' and was wondering if anyone was aware and could be so kind as to attempt to summarize the DIFFERENCES (hardware, software and 'support') between them, pros and cons of buying one specific card/brand over the other, etc. Are (comparable) cards identical, essentially identical, or 'less'. More importantly, what about SOFTWARE? In the case of All-In-Wonder cards for example, what does one get in terms of Multimedia Center software? a) Identical To ATI's MM software? b) Something good/very simillar? c) Other? What about Support/Software+Driver Upgrades? Anyone have an opinion on how the two compare? Overall, assuming that a comparable 'Sapphire' All-In-Wonder product was available and cost less than the comparable ATI version, would one be advised to still 'pay extra' for the ATI Product and why? TIA. |
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Just so you know, the Built by Ati is actually built by Sapphire. Ati
manufactures the gpu's only and for their "Built by Ati" uses Sapphire as a subcontractor. Alternatively, Sapphire also has their own brand. I know. What I was wondering about is if Sapphire follow Ati's guidelines for thermal (and mechanical solutions) or not. I have the impression that Sapphire's cards are built cheaper that Ati's reference ones. |
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Yeah, go get an nVidia. So long, sucker.
Actually you don't know what I'm talking about! And I'm speaking of build quality. |
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Yeah, go get an nVidia. So long, sucker.
Yeah, choose Ati, dupe. |
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On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 00:31:15 GMT
"Jopo75" wrote: I read your posts, dumb-ass. You have no clue. I think you haven't ripped off any heatsink out of a Sapphire Radeon 9600 lately, to say that. Mine has a passive heatsink too big and heavy to be placed "firmly" only with 2 plastic spacers. If you've red all my posts, you oughta know: instead you don't (see my post at the top of this ng). What about http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/...pcolor-1.html? Dumb-ass to whom? Well, since the article you link is about a PowerColor board and not a Sapphire, I am a bit puzzled as to what its relevance might be. Take care. -- -- --John Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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I read your posts, dumb-ass. You have no clue.
- Jopo75 stood up at show-n-tell, in , and said: Yeah, go get an nVidia. So long, sucker. Actually you don't know what I'm talking about! And I'm speaking of build quality. -- Strontium "It's no surprise, to me. I am my own worst enemy. `Cause every now, and then, I kick the livin' **** `outta me." - Lit |
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Enjoy 'no' AF or FSAA, at playable framerates.
- Jopo75 stood up at show-n-tell, in , and said: Yeah, go get an nVidia. So long, sucker. Yeah, choose Ati, dupe. -- Strontium "It's no surprise, to me. I am my own worst enemy. `Cause every now, and then, I kick the livin' **** `outta me." - Lit |
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