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What's up with NVidia's pricing?
Back when 3DFX died and ATI was a joke, NVidia had a virtual monopoly on
the GPU market and cards like the GF3 were very expensive. Now we see that ATI has stepped up the plate and provided very good competition but there is a huge price difference between the 5900 Ultra and the 9800 Pro and only a small performance differencial. It's as if NVidia's prices are still in the monopoly era. |
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"tq96" wrote in message ... Back when 3DFX died and ATI was a joke, NVidia had a virtual monopoly on the GPU market and cards like the GF3 were very expensive. Now we see that ATI has stepped up the plate and provided very good competition but there is a huge price difference between the 5900 Ultra and the 9800 Pro Even the 9800 can be usually clocked to Pro spec, though one would hardly notice much with anything but the fastest CPUs. Oh, and they take up one slot and don't weigh more than the sum of all your other peripherals either...you know, it reminds me a little of the Voodoo 5 vs. the GF2 situation. What comes around...of course, it's really the beginning of the end if ATI sues Nvidia then assimilates what's left... and only a small performance differencial. Usually in ATI's favor, no less...and we won't talk about the infamous softmoddable 9500 non-Pro, seems to be made of unobtainium these days... It's as if NVidia's prices are still in the monopoly era. (assemble soapbox) They are drifting (perhaps "d" should be replaced by "g"?) out of touch with their market, methinks. With the state of ATI drivers improving seemingly with every release, and Nvidia pulling questionable hijinks to look faster (while not yet fixing certain filtering issues, wonder why?), ATI is practically guaranteed a face-hugger's (think "Alien") liplock on the hi-end this round. Who woulda thunk, given the last few product cycles before R300? If Nvidia's pricing was more competitive, who knows? The hi-end market isn't really where the profits are anyway, nonetheless Nvidia is poised to bleed market share like Caesar on the Ides of March at this rate, something investors may want to consider, never mind the SEC investigation. Once they lose the bulk of the OEM deals, there goes the ballgame. Then that Intel chipset license might be essential for survival, though I doubt they'll step that far in it that this will be the case. After all, nobody thinks ATI stayed solvent all those years based on the merits of performance of their Rage Pro, I hope? Looks like ATI is a little bit better at remembering to bring a pack of condoms before hopping into bed with the Devil, if info WRT Xbox deal is any indication...we'll see what's what next round, provided Nvidia has the strength to pull their sore thumb out of the anterior singularity they've managed to create for themselves...for now, one word: "hubris". (soapbox breaks, too fat...) |
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"Dave" wrote in message news:rWV7b.415115$Ho3.65779@sccrnsc03... "tq96" wrote in message ... Back when 3DFX died and ATI was a joke, NVidia had a virtual monopoly on the GPU market and cards like the GF3 were very expensive. Now we see that ATI has stepped up the plate and provided very good competition but there is a huge price difference between the 5900 Ultra and the 9800 Pro Even the 9800 can be usually clocked to Pro spec, though one would hardly notice much with anything but the fastest CPUs. Oh, and they take up one slot and don't weigh more than the sum of all your other peripherals either...you know, it reminds me a little of the Voodoo 5 vs. the GF2 situation. What comes around...of course, it's really the beginning of the end if ATI sues Nvidia then assimilates what's left... and only a small performance differencial. Usually in ATI's favor, no less...and we won't talk about the infamous softmoddable 9500 non-Pro, seems to be made of unobtainium these days... It's as if NVidia's prices are still in the monopoly era. (assemble soapbox) They are drifting (perhaps "d" should be replaced by "g"?) out of touch with their market, methinks. With the state of ATI drivers improving seemingly with every release, and Nvidia pulling questionable hijinks to look faster (while not yet fixing certain filtering issues, wonder why?), ATI is practically guaranteed a face-hugger's (think "Alien") liplock on the hi-end this round. Who woulda thunk, given the last few product cycles before R300? If Nvidia's pricing was more competitive, who knows? The hi-end market isn't really where the profits are anyway, nonetheless Nvidia is poised to bleed market share like Caesar on the Ides of March at this rate, something investors may want to consider, never mind the SEC investigation. Once they lose the bulk of the OEM deals, there goes the ballgame. Then that Intel chipset license might be essential for survival, though I doubt they'll step that far in it that this will be the case. After all, nobody thinks ATI stayed solvent all those years based on the merits of performance of their Rage Pro, I hope? Looks like ATI is a little bit better at remembering to bring a pack of condoms before hopping into bed with the Devil, if info WRT Xbox deal is any indication...we'll see what's what next round, provided Nvidia has the strength to pull their sore thumb out of the anterior singularity they've managed to create for themselves...for now, one word: "hubris". (soapbox breaks, too fat...) Why pick on Nvidia? Both ATI and Nvidia's top end offerings cost 1/3 of the cost of a new PC! GPU's are now pushing performance limits as hard as the CPU. Do people think it's strange that a top end PC CPU costs over £400? |
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"Dave" wrote in message news:rWV7b.415115$Ho3.65779@sccrnsc03... "tq96" wrote in message ... Back when 3DFX died and ATI was a joke, NVidia had a virtual monopoly on the GPU market and cards like the GF3 were very expensive. Now we see that ATI has stepped up the plate and provided very good competition but there is a huge price difference between the 5900 Ultra and the 9800 Pro Even the 9800 can be usually clocked to Pro spec, though one would hardly notice much with anything but the fastest CPUs. Oh, and they take up one slot and don't weigh more than the sum of all your other peripherals Actually whats even better is if you can get a 9800 np that uses samsung mem even cheaper. Then you can Flash it with pro bios and Viola 9800 pro with higher clock speed to start and have even more room to oc hehe. |
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"Bratboy" wrote in message ... "Dave" wrote in message news:rWV7b.415115$Ho3.65779@sccrnsc03... "tq96" wrote in message ... Back when 3DFX died and ATI was a joke, NVidia had a virtual monopoly on the GPU market and cards like the GF3 were very expensive. Now we see that ATI has stepped up the plate and provided very good competition but there is a huge price difference between the 5900 Ultra and the 9800 Pro Even the 9800 can be usually clocked to Pro spec, though one would hardly notice much with anything but the fastest CPUs. Oh, and they take up one slot and don't weigh more than the sum of all your other peripherals Actually whats even better is if you can get a 9800 np that uses samsung mem even cheaper. Then you can Flash it with pro bios and Viola 9800 pro with higher clock speed to start and have even more room to oc hehe. Or you could just buy the 9800Pro and o/c to 5900Ultra speeds. With additonal cooling and stuff it can, just about, clock to FX speeds. |
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