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"MyndPhlyp" wrote in message
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"Lee Waun" wrote in message
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AMD sucks. Intel rules. Now you have more grounds to sue.

Uh ... nope. I don't shill for AMD. But seeing as how you are so fond of
them g, I called off the liar.



I am not fond of AMD. I am a long time Intel user and read these newsgroups
everyday and despite all the pro AMD info circulated around these newsgroups
I will not change machines. Something about a old dog and tricks or
something like that. I also killfiled JK a long time ago.

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips MyndPhlyp wrote:
120F = More than 5 minutes
125F = 1-1/2 to 2 minutes
130F = About 30 seconds
135F = About 10 seconds
140F = Less than 5 seconds
145F = Less than 3 seconds
150F = About 1-1/2 seconds
155F = About 1 second

I bet this manual was published after McD coffee!

Given that knowledge and that coffee is generally served
at 150F, would I expect to /*not*/ be burned if I dumped
a coffee in my lap?

Running hot water is different from spilled coffee.
The spilled coffee cools very quickly, running hot
water replaces itself.

Look, there is no big issue if _everyone_ had coffee as hot
as McD. America generally serves hotter coffee than Europe.
Worse beans. Everyone would expect it to be scalding hot
and take approporiate precautions. It is more that McD had
a sizeable hidden increased hazard.

use at least a modicum of common sense.

Of course. The debate is on how large that modicum
should be. Or more specifically, how gracefully products
should fail when misused.

the house and whacked my thumb with the hammer.

Did the hammerhead fly off? Was it coated with some toxin?
Did sharp spikes spring from the head into your thumb?

If the coffee had been normally hot, McD wouldn't have lost.

-- Robert

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips Wes Newell wrote:
BS, Any coffee drinker knows that the water is boiling
when brewed. I'd assume it to be freshly brewed at 212F,

I wouldn't want to drink any of your coffee!
http://www.coffeeresearch.org/coffee/brewing.htm

The water might _start_ out boiling, but the beans,
apparatus and contact with air cool it quite a bit.

-- Robert

"Grumble" wrote in message ...
MyndPhlyp wrote:

Grumble wrote:

The infamous "McDonald's coffee case" is definitely *NOT* an example
of frivolous lawsuits.

In your opinion.

Yes. In my humble opinion, based on the facts presented in the press
and in the article the link to which you inappropriately snipped.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonald's_coffee_case

Intelligent people can disagree over whether the lawsuit was frivolous
or not, but it was not *obviously* frivolous, so it's bad to use as an
example of a frivolous lawsuit. There are so many genuinely and obviously
frivolous lawsuits in which sums of money were awarded.

DS

On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 18:37:36 +0000, Robert Redelmeier wrote:

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips Wes Newell
wrote:
BS, Any coffee drinker knows that the water is boiling when brewed. I'd
assume it to be freshly brewed at 212F,

I wouldn't want to drink any of your coffee!

I don't drink coffee, but that doesn't mean I've never brewed it or seen
it brewed. And if I know it's hot as hell, she sure as hell should have.
She was just plain stupid and didn't deserve a dime.

http://www.coffeeresearch.org/coffee/brewing.htm

The water might _start_ out boiling, but the beans, apparatus and
contact with air cool it quite a bit.

So that's why there's a burner underneath the coffeepot, to cool it off.
Christ man, you're making a fool of yourself. I said it was freshly brewed
at 212F, not served at 212F. Freshly served, I'd expect what she got
,180-190F.

--
Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB)
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm

On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 18:37:36 +0000, Robert Redelmeier wrote:

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips Wes Newell wrote:
BS, Any coffee drinker knows that the water is boiling
when brewed. I'd assume it to be freshly brewed at 212F,

I wouldn't want to drink any of your coffee!
http://www.coffeeresearch.org/coffee/brewing.htm

The water might _start_ out boiling, but the beans,
apparatus and contact with air cool it quite a bit.

And to follow that up, her lawyer should have had to pay all court cost
and M's attorneys fees.:-)

Give me a break.

--
Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB)
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm

Lee Waun wrote:
I am not fond of AMD. I am a long time Intel user and read these
newsgroups everyday and despite all the pro AMD info circulated
around these newsgroups I will not change machines. Something about a
old dog and tricks or something like that. I also killfiled JK a long
time ago.

Killfiling JK is no proof that you're pro-Intel or anti-AMD. :-)

Yousuf Khan

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips Wes Newell wrote:
So that's why there's a burner underneath the coffeepot,
to cool it off. Christ man, you're making a fool of
yourself. I said it was freshly brewed at 212F, not served
at 212F. Freshly served, I'd expect what she got ,180-190F.

Nope. The thermostat on the keep-warm burner is around
155'F. McDonalds had to threaten Bunn (the mfr) to get
special-order coffee makers with thermostats at 185'F.
Bunn warned McD of the hazards.

There are frivolous lawsuits. This ain't one.

-- Robert

On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 23:28:52 +0000, Robert Redelmeier wrote:

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips Wes Newell
wrote:
So that's why there's a burner underneath the coffeepot, to cool it
off. Christ man, you're making a fool of yourself. I said it was
freshly brewed at 212F, not served at 212F. Freshly served, I'd expect
what she got ,180-190F.

Nope. The thermostat on the keep-warm burner is around 155'F.
McDonalds had to threaten Bunn (the mfr) to get special-order coffee
makers with thermostats at 185'F. Bunn warned McD of the hazards.

I don't give a **** if it was 210F, she wouldn't have gotten a dime from
me and I would have found her attorney guilty of a friivilous lawsuit.

There are frivolous lawsuits. This ain't one.

It's a matter of opinion. In mine it is. You must be an attorney.

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Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB)
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm

"Yousuf Khan" wrote in message
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Lee Waun wrote:
I am not fond of AMD. I am a long time Intel user and read these
newsgroups everyday and despite all the pro AMD info circulated
around these newsgroups I will not change machines. Something about a
old dog and tricks or something like that. I also killfiled JK a long
time ago.

Killfiling JK is no proof that you're pro-Intel or anti-AMD. :-)

Yousuf Khan


Yah but it sure makes the group easier to read.

I hope Intel catches up to AMD tech wise but even if they don't I won't buy
AMD just to **** JK off.