Many people ordering BIOS chips for A8N32-SLI Deluxe

Hello,

I am definetly not the only one with probably a dead BIOS chip for the
Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe motherboard. (Confirmed by third party bios
flashing service)

Let's recap:

1. Asus sells a motherboard with a bios version which does not
completely support 4 GB.

2. People with 4 GB of ram want to use all the ram.

3. People with the sound problems think maybe a BIOS flash will fix
it.

4. So many people flash the bios.

5. Flashing 1 million transistors (BIOS size) needs a success rate of
beyond %99.9999.

6. If 1 out of a million transistors fails to flash properly, problems
could and will occur. Very strange problems will occur.

So to me it doesn't seem strange many people are buying BIOS chips.

I can also understand an American sueing these sort of companies of
delivering incomplete/unfinished products.

Especially if a bios flash could kill the product.

Bye,
Skybuck.

On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 02:24:17 -0700, Skybuck
wrote:

Hello,

I am definetly not the only one with probably a dead BIOS chip for the
Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe motherboard. (Confirmed by third party bios
flashing service)

Let's recap:

1. Asus sells a motherboard with a bios version which does not
completely support 4 GB.

2. People with 4 GB of ram want to use all the ram.

3. People with the sound problems think maybe a BIOS flash will fix
it.

4. So many people flash the bios.

5. Flashing 1 million transistors (BIOS size) needs a success rate of
beyond %99.9999.

6. If 1 out of a million transistors fails to flash properly, problems
could and will occur. Very strange problems will occur.

So to me it doesn't seem strange many people are buying BIOS chips.

I can also understand an American sueing these sort of companies of
delivering incomplete/unfinished products.

Especially if a bios flash could kill the product.

Bye,
Skybuck.

Still looking for someone else to blame for you inept troubleshooting
skills or lack of ability?

Flash memory works very well - count the number of transistors in a
computer system and could make a case for computers not working too.

Statement 5 implies flashing is dangerous, Statement 6 reinforces that
idea, statements 7,8,9 ditto. So you have to ask yourself why do it?

Still working on that static electricity, stray electricity problem?

A BIOS has a tiny flash memory - nothing like an MP3 or Video Ipod or
all flash imbedded computer - flash memory works very well in those
things.

Flashing a BIOS is a very risky business and is only done under the
most dire of circumstances and then only with a backup plan. (Then
think twice and wait a few months). Asus has some of the best
flashing and recovery techniques in the industry.

You probably blundered in and did it without thoroughly researching
it, saving the original file or knowing how to replace it.

Perhaps you should consider another line of work. Or better yet, how
about putting together a "reality" show based on your exploits - then
you could pay someone who understands what they are doing to fix it.
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So you agree as well that flashing bioses is very dangerous.

The more reason for asus to make sure it's not required.

Yet the opposite is true, otherwise no full 4GB support.

Bye,
Skybuck.

On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 05:26:11 -0700, Skybuck
wrote:

So you agree as well that flashing bioses is very dangerous.

The more reason for asus to make sure it's not required.

Yet the opposite is true, otherwise no full 4GB support.

Bye,
Skybuck.

Yes I agree flashing BIOS is very dangerous. But most of the modern
Asus boards have a nearly foolproof flashing scheme and bad flash
recovery. Asus will be my next motherboard in all likelihood, for
that reason.

My nephew has several programming and IT systems degrees and I watched
him turn his computer into scrap after flashing the BIOS. It was
cheaper to replace the mobo rather than get a third party bios chip.

One of the things you do when choosing the mobo is to see if it
supports what you want to use and has flexibility for what you might
add later. Flash the BIOS only when you don't mind replacing the
motherboard.

If the motherboard doesn't support something they claim it does, then
you have a gripe with the manufacturer.

I'm still running an old 1998 computer, with a drive card added, and
damn near every thing else replaced or upgraded including the
processor. It is at the end of its rope now - can't make it any
faster than it already is. I flashed the BIOS one time - it was a
long involved procedure making a bootable recovery disc, backing up
the software, and I after I downloaded the firmware, I used a checksum
to verify it. One power line failure or glitch during the flash and
it would have been all over.
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On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 02:24:17 -0700, Skybuck wrote:

Hello,

I am definetly not the only one with probably a dead BIOS chip for the
Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe motherboard. (Confirmed by third party bios
flashing service)

Lots of people needlessly reflash their BIOS chips. The main reason it
can fail is because the program is interrupted or access to the data is
interrupted. This is why it is safest flash a BIOS from bootable utility
which doesn't run Windows.


Let's recap:

1. Asus sells a motherboard with a bios version which does not
completely support 4 GB.

Up to you to do your research and read the release notes and BIOS specs of the
motherboard prior to purchase. You would know which revision supported
various hardware features. There is nothing unusual in field reconfiguring
a motherboard with a BIOS update.

2. People with 4 GB of ram want to use all the ram.

Which OS are you using?


3. People with the sound problems think maybe a BIOS flash will fix it.

Only ****wits like you.

4. So many people flash the bios.

They are all just schooling minnows.

5. Flashing 1 million transistors (BIOS size) needs a success rate of
beyond %99.9999.

6. If 1 out of a million transistors fails to flash properly, problems
could and will occur. Very strange problems will occur.

The complexity of your CPU transcends your BIOS memory. How often does
your CPU invent itself new instructions at runtime?


So to me it doesn't seem strange many people are buying BIOS chips.

Thee is no law which prevents morons from flashing their BIOSes because it
is a cool thing to do.

I can also understand an American sueing these sort of companies of
delivering incomplete/unfinished products.


You understand nothing.

Let's recap:

1. Asus sells a motherboard with a bios version which does not
completely support 4 GB.

Up to you to do your research and read the release notes and BIOS specs of the
motherboard prior to purchase. You would know which revision supported
various hardware features. There is nothing unusual in field reconfiguring
a motherboard with a BIOS update.

You are definetly pushing it.

It wouldn't have mattered.

Time of purchase: 27-march-2006.

Time of known bios issues: 27-february-2006.

I still got a motherboard with an older bios from 21 december 2005 !

See even the reseller didn't know and didn't about the motherboard !

2. People with 4 GB of ram want to use all the ram.

Which OS are you using?

What ya think man ? 64 bit os ofcourse.

3. People with the sound problems think maybe a BIOS flash will fix it.

Only ****wits like you.

Oh no, many people do that.

Creative labs and others even advice trying to update the bios to see
if that helps.


4. So many people flash the bios.

They are all just schooling minnows.

Sure diss all the other people.

5. Flashing 1 million transistors (BIOS size) needs a success rate of
beyond %99.9999.

What no reaction ?

6. If 1 out of a million transistors fails to flash properly, problems
could and will occur. Very strange problems will occur.

The complexity of your CPU transcends your BIOS memory. How often does
your CPU invent itself new instructions at runtime?

What does this have to do with anything ?


So to me it doesn't seem strange many people are buying BIOS chips.

Thee is no law which prevents morons from flashing their BIOSes because it
is a cool thing to do.

Maybe there should be !

I can also understand an American sueing these sort of companies of
delivering incomplete/unfinished products.

You understand nothing.

You talk ****.

Bye,
Skybuck

Skybuck wrote:

Hello,

I am definetly not the only one with probably a dead BIOS chip for the
Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe motherboard. (Confirmed by third party bios
flashing service)

Let's recap:

1. Asus sells a motherboard with a bios version which does not
completely support 4 GB.

2. People with 4 GB of ram want to use all the ram.

3. People with the sound problems think maybe a BIOS flash will fix
it.

4. So many people flash the bios.

5. Flashing 1 million transistors (BIOS size) needs a success rate of
beyond %99.9999.

6. If 1 out of a million transistors fails to flash properly, problems
could and will occur. Very strange problems will occur.

So to me it doesn't seem strange many people are buying BIOS chips.

I can also understand an American sueing these sort of companies of
delivering incomplete/unfinished products.

Especially if a bios flash could kill the product.

Bye,
Skybuck.

Perhaps you should learn the diference between beans and duckeggs.
Your diatribe about flashing is in that category, and i suggest you
drop it.
A BIOS chip will *NOT* allow anyone to use 4Gbytes of RAM.

Microsoft has a very clunky and bloated program that purports to
support use of 4Gbytes of RAM,and they do not support it.
Other than that, one cannot use 4Gbytes of RAM (with MS OSes).
The best one can do (and i have tried this) is to have 3-4 Gbytes
installed, use Win2K (the leanest MS OS that will recognize over 2Gbytes
of RAM), and write your special programs that eat memory (like my
multidigit multiply/divide programs).
The result is, that *most* of the OS will "live" above the first
2Gbytes, allowing use of almost 2Gbytes for your program and data.

AFAIK there is *no* CONSUMER program that uses over one Gbyte of RAM,
because damn few consumers have over 512Mbytes; the programs would be
glacial with all of the disk swapping to create virtual memory (and i
know this from experience with regard to those multidigit programs).
Now, there may be special 3D programs (say for making cartoons or
games) but those are not for consumers, the pricing is nosebleed for
most people, and the system requirements would demand 2-3Gbytes for
reasonable speed.

So we are back to beans and duckeggs; you have no need for even
2Gbytes of RAM.

default wrote:

You probably blundered in and did it without thoroughly researching
it, saving the original file or knowing how to replace it.

Skybuck does not even know how a CPU works. How should he know
something about BIOS and right flash operations :-)



Best regards,

Daniel Mandic

Crap.I've Flashed 100 bios' on several brands of motherboard in the last 20
years. Not a single one ever went wrong.I blame 99% of bad flashes on user
ignorance.

"Skybuck" wrote in message
ups.com...
So you agree as well that flashing bioses is very dangerous.

The more reason for asus to make sure it's not required.

Yet the opposite is true, otherwise no full 4GB support.

Bye,
Skybuck.

In article ewlai.127841$p47.35096@bgtnsc04-
news.ops.worldnet.att.net, "don't look" don't
says...
Crap.I've Flashed 100 bios' on several brands of motherboard in the last 20
years. Not a single one ever went wrong.I blame 99% of bad flashes on user
ignorance.

Exactly. That's why it's dangerous, particularly for Skyduck.

stupid ignorant



"Skybuck" wrote in message
ups.com...
So you agree as well that flashing bioses is very dangerous.

The more reason for asus to make sure it's not required.

Yet the opposite is true, otherwise no full 4GB support.

Bye,
Skybuck.





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Keith