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Old February 10th 07, 03:39 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware
Jim Burton
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Default hot swaping drives

My motherboard has SATA connections
I have a number of old IDE disks and a PATA removable caddy

I would like to know if I purchased a SATA to IDE adapter to connect a SATA
port on the motherboard to the caddy could I then safely hot swap IDE disks
in the caddy ?

Regards & TIA


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Old February 10th 07, 05:58 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware
Noozer
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"Jim Burton" wrote in message
...
My motherboard has SATA connections
I have a number of old IDE disks and a PATA removable caddy

I would like to know if I purchased a SATA to IDE adapter to connect a
SATA
port on the motherboard to the caddy could I then safely hot swap IDE
disks
in the caddy ?


What OS are you running? Window XP doesn't support hotswapping PATA drives
at all.


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Old February 10th 07, 06:11 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware
Jim Burton
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Oh Dear ... XP Pro .... so that's the end of that idea


"Noozer" wrote in message
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"Jim Burton" wrote in message
...
My motherboard has SATA connections
I have a number of old IDE disks and a PATA removable caddy

I would like to know if I purchased a SATA to IDE adapter to connect a
SATA
port on the motherboard to the caddy could I then safely hot swap IDE
disks
in the caddy ?


What OS are you running? Window XP doesn't support hotswapping PATA drives
at all.



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Old February 10th 07, 10:17 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware
kony
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Default hot swaping drives

On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 18:11:25 -0000, "Jim Burton"
wrote:

Oh Dear ... XP Pro .... so that's the end of that idea



Not necessarily, you can swap drives hooked up to some
discrete controllers, but it is because the separate
controller is designed to accomodate it. In such cases the
drive needs to be unplugged from the bus before power, and
*new* drive plugged into power before bus... the idea being
you dont' want an (electrically) dead device on the bus.

As for whether an PATA adapter would allow it, may depend
largely on whether you could've done same with an SATA
drive, though there are no guarantees.
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Old February 11th 07, 01:12 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware
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"Jim Burton" wrote in message
...
My motherboard has SATA connections
I have a number of old IDE disks and a PATA removable caddy

I would like to know if I purchased a SATA to IDE adapter to connect a

SATA
port on the motherboard to the caddy could I then safely hot swap IDE

disks
in the caddy ?



If you want "hot swap" get a USB2 external enclosure


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Old February 11th 07, 03:30 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware
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Default hot swaping drives

On Feb 10, 7:39 am, "Jim Burton" wrote:
My motherboard has SATA connections
I have a number of old IDE disks and a PATA removable caddy

I would like to know if I purchased a SATA to IDE adapter to connect a SATA
port on the motherboard to the caddy could I then safely hot swap IDE disks
in the caddy ?

Regards & TIA


There is such thing as a hot swap caddy for IDE drives.You can even
get away with pulling out the ribbon cable and power cable while the
computer is live. But it's not really a great idea.

You can probably do it with USB.




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Old February 11th 07, 06:06 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware
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wrote in message
ups.com...
On Feb 10, 7:39 am, "Jim Burton" wrote:
My motherboard has SATA connections
I have a number of old IDE disks and a PATA removable caddy

I would like to know if I purchased a SATA to IDE adapter to connect a
SATA
port on the motherboard to the caddy could I then safely hot swap IDE
disks
in the caddy ?

Regards & TIA


There is such thing as a hot swap caddy for IDE drives.You can even
get away with pulling out the ribbon cable and power cable while the
computer is live. But it's not really a great idea.


But XP does NOT support hotswapping IDE drives. Windows 98 does though.

There is no option on an IDE hard drive to disable write caching, etc. so
you can never be sure if Windows still has something to put onto the drive.


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Old February 11th 07, 08:24 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware
Jim Burton
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Default hot swaping drives

Is it just a question of flushing the write cache that will make it unsafe
..... or is there an electrical problem with spikes etc when switching off
the power to a drive in the caddy ?


"Noozer" wrote in message
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wrote in message
ups.com...
On Feb 10, 7:39 am, "Jim Burton" wrote:
My motherboard has SATA connections
I have a number of old IDE disks and a PATA removable caddy

I would like to know if I purchased a SATA to IDE adapter to connect a
SATA
port on the motherboard to the caddy could I then safely hot swap IDE
disks
in the caddy ?

Regards & TIA


There is such thing as a hot swap caddy for IDE drives.You can even
get away with pulling out the ribbon cable and power cable while the
computer is live. But it's not really a great idea.


But XP does NOT support hotswapping IDE drives. Windows 98 does though.

There is no option on an IDE hard drive to disable write caching, etc. so
you can never be sure if Windows still has something to put onto the
drive.



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Old February 11th 07, 08:40 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware
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Default hot swaping drives

On Feb 11, 12:24 pm, "Jim Burton" wrote:
Is it just a question of flushing the write cache that will make it unsafe
.... or is there an electrical problem with spikes etc when switching off
the power to a drive in the ca



Both.



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wrote in message
oups.com...
On Feb 10, 7:39 am, "Jim Burton" wrote:
My motherboard has SATA connections
I have a number of old IDE disks and a PATA removable caddy


I would like to know if I purchased a SATA to IDE adapter to connect a
SATA
port on the motherboard to the caddy could I then safely hot swap IDE
disks
in the caddy ?


Regards & TIA


There is such thing as a hot swap caddy for IDE drives.You can even
get away with pulling out the ribbon cable and power cable while the
computer is live. But it's not really a great idea.


But XP does NOT support hotswapping IDE drives. Windows 98 does though.


There is no option on an IDE hard drive to disable write caching, etc. so
you can never be sure if Windows still has something to put onto the
drive.



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Old February 11th 07, 09:16 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware
Jim Burton
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Default hot swaping drives


wrote in message
ups.com...
On Feb 10, 7:39 am, "Jim Burton" wrote:
My motherboard has SATA connections
I have a number of old IDE disks and a PATA removable caddy

I would like to know if I purchased a SATA to IDE adapter to connect a
SATA
port on the motherboard to the caddy could I then safely hot swap IDE
disks
in the caddy ?

Regards & TIA


There is such thing as a hot swap caddy for IDE drives.You can even
get away with pulling out the ribbon cable and power cable while the
computer is live. But it's not really a great idea.

You can probably do it with USB.


OK - Do you know if there are any internal PATA HDD caddies available ?


 




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