CPU Over clocking

Intel makes 3 cpu's that are 3.0g, how can one tell if they are getting the
better one for over clocking?

"redrider" wrote in message
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Intel makes 3 cpu's that are 3.0g, how can one tell if they are getting
the
better one for over clocking?


C or EE (Northwood.) 800 Fsb
E = (Prescott) Also 800 Fsb or (full bus speed) the hardest to Overclock. Or
so I read very many times.
I have a P4 2.6c @ 3.23 GHz
Intel Pentium 4c 3.06 GHz with 800 fsb (Northwood) Very good.
Intel Pentium 4c 3.06 GHz with 800 fsb Extreme Edition (Northwood) As far as
I know, also very good.
They cost a lot though.
Intel Pentium 4c 3.06 GHz with 800 fsb (Prescott) If you want to spend a lot
for water cooling, can be very good too.
But the other two can be cooled on air only. Or at least I think you
don't need anything extra for the EE, but they do cost
a lot..
Denny. :-) Always with a smile, even if times are bad.

"Dennis E Strausser Jr" wrote in message
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"redrider" wrote in message
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Intel makes 3 cpu's that are 3.0g, how can one tell if they are getting
the
better one for over clocking?


C or EE (Northwood.) 800 Fsb
E = (Prescott) Also 800 Fsb or (full bus speed) the hardest to Overclock.
Or
so I read very many times.
I have a P4 2.6c @ 3.23 GHz
Intel Pentium 4c 3.06 GHz with 800 fsb (Northwood) Very good.
Intel Pentium 4c 3.06 GHz with 800 fsb Extreme Edition (Northwood) As far
as
I know, also very good.
They cost a lot though.
Intel Pentium 4c 3.06 GHz with 800 fsb (Prescott) If you want to spend a
lot
for water cooling, can be very good too.
But the other two can be cooled on air only. Or at least I think you
don't need anything extra for the EE, but they do cost
a lot..
Denny. :-) Always with a smile, even if times are bad.



We both missed one
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...116-154&depa=0
Newegg.com
P4b 3.06 GHz
Four CPU's at the same speed..
Well now, I thought they made an 800 Fsb in a 3.06 GHz CPU, but I cant seem
to find one.

PriceGrabber.com

http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_g.../search=Pentiu
m%25204/ut=445569eb6e736f5c
Not really much cheaper @ newegg either..

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduc...cription=3%2E0
C

Dennis E Strausser Jr wrote:

"Dennis E Strausser Jr" wrote in message
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"redrider" wrote in message
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Intel makes 3 cpu's that are 3.0g, how can one tell if they are getting

the

better one for over clocking?



C or EE (Northwood.) 800 Fsb
E = (Prescott) Also 800 Fsb or (full bus speed) the hardest to Overclock.

Or

so I read very many times.
I have a P4 2.6c @ 3.23 GHz
Intel Pentium 4c 3.06 GHz with 800 fsb (Northwood) Very good.
Intel Pentium 4c 3.06 GHz with 800 fsb Extreme Edition (Northwood) As far

as

I know, also very good.
They cost a lot though.
Intel Pentium 4c 3.06 GHz with 800 fsb (Prescott) If you want to spend a

lot

for water cooling, can be very good too.
But the other two can be cooled on air only. Or at least I think you
don't need anything extra for the EE, but they do cost
a lot..
Denny. :-) Always with a smile, even if times are bad.




We both missed one
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...116-154&depa=0
Newegg.com
P4b 3.06 GHz
Four CPU's at the same speed..
Well now, I thought they made an 800 Fsb in a 3.06 GHz CPU, but I cant seem
to find one.

You won't. 200 doesn't divide into 3060 (no valid multiplier) so 'it
can't be', at least not as long an Intel is using only whole and half
multipliers.

133 divides in for 23, though, so it's a 533 FSB processor.

"David Maynard" wrote in message
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Dennis E Strausser Jr wrote:

"Dennis E Strausser Jr" wrote in message
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"redrider" wrote in message
t.cable.rogers.com...

Intel makes 3 cpu's that are 3.0g, how can one tell if they are getting

the

better one for over clocking?



C or EE (Northwood.) 800 Fsb
E = (Prescott) Also 800 Fsb or (full bus speed) the hardest to
Overclock.

Or

so I read very many times.
I have a P4 2.6c @ 3.23 GHz
Intel Pentium 4c 3.06 GHz with 800 fsb (Northwood) Very good.
Intel Pentium 4c 3.06 GHz with 800 fsb Extreme Edition (Northwood) As
far

as

I know, also very good.
They cost a lot though.
Intel Pentium 4c 3.06 GHz with 800 fsb (Prescott) If you want to spend a

lot

for water cooling, can be very good too.
But the other two can be cooled on air only. Or at least I think you
don't need anything extra for the EE, but they do cost
a lot..
Denny. :-) Always with a smile, even if times are bad.




We both missed one

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...116-154&depa=0
Newegg.com
P4b 3.06 GHz
Four CPU's at the same speed..
Well now, I thought they made an 800 Fsb in a 3.06 GHz CPU, but I cant
seem
to find one.

You won't. 200 doesn't divide into 3060 (no valid multiplier) so 'it
can't be', at least not as long an Intel is using only whole and half
multipliers.

133 divides in for 23, though, so it's a 533 FSB processor.

Oh yeah, You can't overclock a 533FBS 133 (true fsb)
Ah dah?! me :-( My bad..
Denny.

FSB = Front Side Bus not Full Bus Speed
--
Tally Ho!
Ed
"Dennis E Strausser Jr" wrote in message
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"David Maynard" wrote in message
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Dennis E Strausser Jr wrote:

"Dennis E Strausser Jr" wrote in message
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"redrider" wrote in message
t.cable.rogers.com...

Intel makes 3 cpu's that are 3.0g, how can one tell if they are
getting

the

better one for over clocking?



C or EE (Northwood.) 800 Fsb
E = (Prescott) Also 800 Fsb or (full bus speed) the hardest to
Overclock.

Or

so I read very many times.
I have a P4 2.6c @ 3.23 GHz
Intel Pentium 4c 3.06 GHz with 800 fsb (Northwood) Very good.
Intel Pentium 4c 3.06 GHz with 800 fsb Extreme Edition (Northwood) As
far

as

I know, also very good.
They cost a lot though.
Intel Pentium 4c 3.06 GHz with 800 fsb (Prescott) If you want to spend
a

lot

for water cooling, can be very good too.
But the other two can be cooled on air only. Or at least I think
you
don't need anything extra for the EE, but they do cost
a lot..
Denny. :-) Always with a smile, even if times are bad.




We both missed one


http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...116-154&depa=0
Newegg.com
P4b 3.06 GHz
Four CPU's at the same speed..
Well now, I thought they made an 800 Fsb in a 3.06 GHz CPU, but I cant
seem
to find one.

You won't. 200 doesn't divide into 3060 (no valid multiplier) so 'it
can't be', at least not as long an Intel is using only whole and half
multipliers.

133 divides in for 23, though, so it's a 533 FSB processor.

Oh yeah, You can't overclock a 533FBS 133 (true fsb)
Ah dah?! me :-( My bad..
Denny.

Dennis E Strausser Jr wrote:

"Ed Forsythe" wrote in message
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FSB = Front Side Bus not Full Bus Speed
--
Tally Ho!
Ed
"Dennis E Strausser Jr" wrote in message
...

"David Maynard" wrote in message
...

Dennis E Strausser Jr wrote:


"Dennis E Strausser Jr" wrote in message
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"redrider" wrote in message

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Intel makes 3 cpu's that are 3.0g, how can one tell if they are

getting

the


better one for over clocking?



C or EE (Northwood.) 800 Fsb
E = (Prescott) Also 800 Fsb or (full bus speed) the hardest to


800 is the bus speed...
The FSB is really only 200 (x) the multi.
In other words, it's 200 Quad Pumped to 800 Bus Speed
Or 200x4=800


Overclock.

Or


so I read very many times.
I have a P4 2.6c @ 3.23 GHz
Intel Pentium 4c 3.06 GHz with 800 fsb (Northwood) Very good.
Intel Pentium 4c 3.06 GHz with 800 fsb Extreme Edition (Northwood)

As

far

as


I know, also very good.
They cost a lot though.
Intel Pentium 4c 3.06 GHz with 800 fsb (Prescott) If you want to

spend

a

lot


for water cooling, can be very good too.
But the other two can be cooled on air only. Or at least I think

you

don't need anything extra for the EE, but they do cost
a lot..
Denny. :-) Always with a smile, even if times are bad.




We both missed one


http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...116-154&depa=0

Newegg.com
P4b 3.06 GHz
Four CPU's at the same speed..
Well now, I thought they made an 800 Fsb in a 3.06 GHz CPU, but I

cant

seem

to find one.

You won't. 200 doesn't divide into 3060 (no valid multiplier) so 'it
can't be', at least not as long an Intel is using only whole and half
multipliers.

133 divides in for 23, though, so it's a 533 FSB processor.


Oh yeah, You can't overclock a 533FBS 133 (true fsb)
Ah dah?! me :-( My bad..
Denny.

Same with this in a very real way.
but it ends up at 532,

No, it's 533. Well, actually, 533.3333333333.... because it's quad
pumped, I.E. 4 times 133.3333333.....

it just sounds better to call it 533 FSB then it
does to call it 133 FSB

No, it's called 533 because that's the bus transfer rate.

They call a single data rate 133MHz clocked bus 133 because that's the
bus transfer rate (once per clock) and they call a double data transfer
rate 133Mhz clocked bus 266 because that's the data transfer rate (twice
per clock). Quad pumped is 533 (4 times per clock).

Do almost any benchmark on a P4 533 FSB 2.8 GHz against a 2400+ or higher.
The 2400+ won't always keep up, but it also won't be far behind.
If this was a (True FSB) It would beat all sides of a 2400+ without a
problem.
How do I know this? I've had both, and ran enough benchmarks to make
your head spin.
I've also worked with Overclocking both, so I would know what the true FSB's
would be.
Why do you think the AMD 64FX51's are doing so well? It's cause it's a True
400FSB...

And just what 'significance' do you attribute to what you call a "true FSB?"

"Ed Forsythe" wrote in message
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FSB = Front Side Bus not Full Bus Speed
--
Tally Ho!
Ed
"Dennis E Strausser Jr" wrote in message
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"David Maynard" wrote in message
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Dennis E Strausser Jr wrote:

"Dennis E Strausser Jr" wrote in message
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"redrider" wrote in message

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Intel makes 3 cpu's that are 3.0g, how can one tell if they are
getting

the

better one for over clocking?



C or EE (Northwood.) 800 Fsb
E = (Prescott) Also 800 Fsb or (full bus speed) the hardest to

800 is the bus speed...
The FSB is really only 200 (x) the multi.
In other words, it's 200 Quad Pumped to 800 Bus Speed
Or 200x4=800

Overclock.

Or

so I read very many times.
I have a P4 2.6c @ 3.23 GHz
Intel Pentium 4c 3.06 GHz with 800 fsb (Northwood) Very good.
Intel Pentium 4c 3.06 GHz with 800 fsb Extreme Edition (Northwood)
As
far

as

I know, also very good.
They cost a lot though.
Intel Pentium 4c 3.06 GHz with 800 fsb (Prescott) If you want to
spend
a

lot

for water cooling, can be very good too.
But the other two can be cooled on air only. Or at least I think
you
don't need anything extra for the EE, but they do cost
a lot..
Denny. :-) Always with a smile, even if times are bad.




We both missed one



http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...116-154&depa=0
Newegg.com
P4b 3.06 GHz
Four CPU's at the same speed..
Well now, I thought they made an 800 Fsb in a 3.06 GHz CPU, but I
cant
seem
to find one.

You won't. 200 doesn't divide into 3060 (no valid multiplier) so 'it
can't be', at least not as long an Intel is using only whole and half
multipliers.

133 divides in for 23, though, so it's a 533 FSB processor.

Oh yeah, You can't overclock a 533FBS 133 (true fsb)
Ah dah?! me :-( My bad..
Denny.
Same with this in a very real way.
but it ends up at 532, it just sounds better to call it 533 FSB then it
does to call it 133 FSB

Do almost any benchmark on a P4 533 FSB 2.8 GHz against a 2400+ or higher.
The 2400+ won't always keep up, but it also won't be far behind.
If this was a (True FSB) It would beat all sides of a 2400+ without a
problem.
How do I know this? I've had both, and ran enough benchmarks to make
your head spin.
I've also worked with Overclocking both, so I would know what the true FSB's
would be.
Why do you think the AMD 64FX51's are doing so well? It's cause it's a True
400FSB...
Denny.

"David Maynard" wrote in message
...
Dennis E Strausser Jr wrote:

"Ed Forsythe" wrote in message
...

FSB = Front Side Bus not Full Bus Speed
--
Tally Ho!
Ed
"Dennis E Strausser Jr" wrote in message
...

"David Maynard" wrote in message
...

Dennis E Strausser Jr wrote:


"Dennis E Strausser Jr" wrote in message
...


"redrider" wrote in message

et.cable.rogers.com...

Intel makes 3 cpu's that are 3.0g, how can one tell if they are

getting

the


better one for over clocking?



C or EE (Northwood.) 800 Fsb
E = (Prescott) Also 800 Fsb or (full bus speed) the hardest to


800 is the bus speed...
The FSB is really only 200 (x) the multi.
In other words, it's 200 Quad Pumped to 800 Bus Speed
Or 200x4=800


Overclock.

Or


so I read very many times.
I have a P4 2.6c @ 3.23 GHz
Intel Pentium 4c 3.06 GHz with 800 fsb (Northwood) Very good.
Intel Pentium 4c 3.06 GHz with 800 fsb Extreme Edition (Northwood)

As

far

as


I know, also very good.
They cost a lot though.
Intel Pentium 4c 3.06 GHz with 800 fsb (Prescott) If you want to

spend

a

lot


for water cooling, can be very good too.
But the other two can be cooled on air only. Or at least I think

you

don't need anything extra for the EE, but they do cost
a lot..
Denny. :-) Always with a smile, even if times are bad.




We both missed one



http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...116-154&depa=0

Newegg.com
P4b 3.06 GHz
Four CPU's at the same speed..
Well now, I thought they made an 800 Fsb in a 3.06 GHz CPU, but I

cant

seem

to find one.

You won't. 200 doesn't divide into 3060 (no valid multiplier) so 'it
can't be', at least not as long an Intel is using only whole and half
multipliers.

133 divides in for 23, though, so it's a 533 FSB processor.


Oh yeah, You can't overclock a 533FBS 133 (true fsb)
Ah dah?! me :-( My bad..
Denny.

Same with this in a very real way.
but it ends up at 532,

No, it's 533. Well, actually, 533.3333333333.... because it's quad
pumped, I.E. 4 times 133.3333333.....

it just sounds better to call it 533 FSB then it
does to call it 133 FSB

No, it's called 533 because that's the bus transfer rate.

They call a single data rate 133MHz clocked bus 133 because that's the
bus transfer rate (once per clock) and they call a double data transfer
rate 133Mhz clocked bus 266 because that's the data transfer rate (twice
per clock). Quad pumped is 533 (4 times per clock).

Do almost any benchmark on a P4 533 FSB 2.8 GHz against a 2400+ or
higher.
The 2400+ won't always keep up, but it also won't be far behind.
If this was a (True FSB) It would beat all sides of a 2400+ without a
problem.
How do I know this? I've had both, and ran enough benchmarks to
make
your head spin.
I've also worked with Overclocking both, so I would know what the true
FSB's
would be.
Why do you think the AMD 64FX51's are doing so well? It's cause it's a
True
400FSB...

And just what 'significance' do you attribute to what you call a "true
FSB?"

cpuz lists fsb and bus speed.
ty much, your right, I guess I forgot the FSB of the P4b is 133.33 and then
some.
Mine is, going by cpuz = 248 MHz FSB
Bus Speed 993.7 MHz
For an and total of 3229.5 (3.23 GHz) It's only .5 away, why the heck not
just call it 3.23..


Also, Thanks ever so much for the info of what Quad Pumped stands for.
I Can understand this now much better then I use to.
I thank you again, and I think we have the point out well..
Denny. :-) Smile & stuff.....