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GeForce 6200 TurboCache PCI-E - Advice needed
Recently bought a new computer, the spec is as follows:
Intel 3.2Ghz Pentium 4 540 LGA 775 1024MB PC3200 400MHz DDR RAM GeForce 6200 TurboCache (supports 256MB) Video BIOS: 5.44.02.14.03 IRQ: 16 Bus: PCI Express x16 Memory: 256MB Forceware Version: 77.77 TV Encoder Type: NVidia Integrated SiS BIOS Microsoft Windows XP/Professional SP2 - fully updated Trend Micro AntiVirus Monitor: Hyundai ImageQuest G210 Desktop Resolution: 1600x1200x32 - 85Hz (ok won't bother listing HDD, DVD burner etc, cos that's not what this message is about). As a machine, i'm very happy with it, seems very spritly in its operation - and though I don't play many PC games (I tend to use my PS2 for any games that I want to play), I never the less decided to try a game or two.. So I installed MotoGP2 on it, and was shocked at just how jerky the graphics were - exited the game, played with the settings somewhat, and short of turning off pretty much most of the 'fancy' graphics which make the game worth playing, I just couldn't get the card to perform. Having just been playing the same game on my Laptop which runs a Radeon card ... and with such a 'glitzy' name as 'turbocache' etc, I thought the card should perform? Anyhow, I grabbed a copy of 3DMark05, ran the tests and sustained FPS between 1 and 5 ... Pathetic!! Since then i've upgraded the drivers to the latest versions I could locate 77.77, and no real difference. So my questions to the hardware buffs amoungst us a 1. Is there something wrong with my card? 2. Is there something wrong with my computer? 3. What FPS should I be expecting out of this card? 4. Are there any 'Ideal' BIOS settings which may improve the speed? 5. Are there any 'more optimum' drivers for this card? 6. Are there any more details I can give you my configuration hw/sw in order to help you diagnose the problems? 7. If I really am already getting the best out of this card that I can, given the setup about and a budget max of £150, what graphics card would you replace the 6200 with (and what speeds should I be expecting out of that) Any advice is welcome. Thanks Brian. |
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So my questions to the hardware buffs amoungst us a
1. Is there something wrong with my card? 2. Is there something wrong with my computer? 3. What FPS should I be expecting out of this card? 4. Are there any 'Ideal' BIOS settings which may improve the speed? 5. Are there any 'more optimum' drivers for this card? 6. Are there any more details I can give you my configuration hw/sw in order to help you diagnose the problems? 7. If I really am already getting the best out of this card that I can, given the setup about and a budget max of £150, what graphics card would you replace the 6200 with (and what speeds should I be expecting out of that) Any advice is welcome. http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20050208/ |
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There's nothing wrong with your computer. That particular card is the one of
the worst performing cards in the Geforce 6xxx range. Turbocache and I think ATI's implementation is called hypermemory or something really means its pratically totally useless for playing modern games. It's only a marginal step up from integrated motherboard graphics. Any graphics card that will share memory with your system memory will always perform slow. If you want to play modern games the least you should consider is a Geforce 6600. I have the Geforce 6600GT and couldn't be more impressed with the card! Dan |
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Augustus wrote:
http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20050208/ Thanks for that Augustus, a very interesting read. So i've now concluded, that the 6200TC is fairly useless for playing games on (unless it's for firing up a platform game under MAME:-)) That still leaves the following question pretty much unanswered... 7. If I really am already getting the best out of this card that I can, given the setup above and a budget max of £150, what graphics card would you replace the 6200 with (and what speeds should I be expecting out of that) Thanks Brian |
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150 pounds is around $200? Geforce 6600GT or 6800 vanilla(non-GT,ultra).
"Brian Dukes" wrote in message ... Augustus wrote: http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20050208/ Thanks for that Augustus, a very interesting read. So i've now concluded, that the 6200TC is fairly useless for playing games on (unless it's for firing up a platform game under MAME:-)) That still leaves the following question pretty much unanswered... 7. If I really am already getting the best out of this card that I can, given the setup above and a budget max of £150, what graphics card would you replace the 6200 with (and what speeds should I be expecting out of that) Thanks Brian |
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That still leaves the following question pretty much unanswered...
7. If I really am already getting the best out of this card that I can, given the setup above and a budget max of £150, what graphics card would you replace the 6200 with (and what speeds should I be expecting out of that) Thanks Brian I'm in western Canada (Alberta) and have no idea what the going rates for hardware in GB. . Don't know the online merchants and retailers over there either. What you should be looking at is a 6600GT 128Mb card minimum. Your monitor is 1600x1200 native, so you really should be looking at 6800GT or Ultra level cards to game with. But these are big bucks. 6600GT is hopefully in the 150 quid range. |
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I'm in western Canada (Alberta) and have no idea what the going rates for hardware in GB. . Don't know the online merchants and retailers over there either. What you should be looking at is a 6600GT 128Mb card minimum. Your monitor is 1600x1200 native, so you really should be looking at 6800GT or Ultra level cards to game with. But these are big bucks. 6600GT is hopefully in the 150 quid range. Ok now i'm even more confused!! ;-) (easily done I know) What's the difference between: http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/s...html?MSI-66GTE and http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/s...html?NOV-66GTE (apart from the cost) ... why would I want to pay the extra and get the MSI-66GTE product? Or.. should I throw a few extra bucks at it and opt for something like: http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/s...tml?ASU-108711 BTW, i'm in no way affiliated to Novatech .. they just so happen to be very competatively priced in the UK and extremely close to my home. Brian. |
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"Brian Dukes" wrote in message
... http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/s...html?MSI-66GTE and http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/s...html?NOV-66GTE (apart from the cost) ... why would I want to pay the extra and get the MSI-66GTE product? Well, a store-branded card tends to be cheaper. There's no real difference. And if the photo's correct, the Novatech-branded card is manufacturered by LeadTek, making it very desirable. Or.. should I throw a few extra bucks at it and opt for something like: http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/s...tml?ASU-108711 More like a hundred bucks. Neither is a better value over the other. -- "War is the continuation of politics by other means. It can therefore be said that politics is war without bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed." |
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First of One wrote:
"Brian Dukes" wrote in message ... http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/s...html?MSI-66GTE and http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/s...html?NOV-66GTE (apart from the cost) ... why would I want to pay the extra and get the MSI-66GTE product? Well, a store-branded card tends to be cheaper. There's no real difference. And if the photo's correct, the Novatech-branded card is manufacturered by LeadTek, making it very desirable. Or.. should I throw a few extra bucks at it and opt for something like: http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/s...tml?ASU-108711 More like a hundred bucks. Neither is a better value over the other. Ok i'm going to be spending some money tomorrow upgrading my Video card and moving on from the current GeForce 6200TC. Question is would I be better off spending a little more money and getting this: http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/s...tml?ASU-108711 or should I save my cash and just opt for this: http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/s...html?NOV-66GTE Is the 6800 card faster? superior? more features? I guess what i'm asking is - given a total maximum of £200, and given my supplier of choice http://www.novatech.co.uk, and given the spec of my PC that I already quoted (PCI-Ex) ... which card would you spend your money on? The DVI port on the back of these cards, am I right in thinking with an appropriate adapter, I can connect another VGA monitor (like my Sony Trinitron E400 19") ?? If so what cable am I looking for? Thanks for your advice thus far. Brian. |
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"Brian Dukes" wrote in message
... Question is would I be better off spending a little more money and getting this: http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/s...tml?ASU-108711 or should I save my cash and just opt for this: http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/s...html?NOV-66GTE The 6800 card is faster. Its performance advantage over the 6600GT is about proportional to its price premium over the 6600GT. Given a maximum of £200, I'd go for the 6800. I guess what i'm asking is - given a total maximum of £200, and given my supplier of choice http://www.novatech.co.uk, and given the spec of my PC that I already quoted (PCI-Ex) ... which card would you spend your money on? Actually I think you should get the Novatech 6800, at only £119. :-) http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/s...html?NOV-6800E However, first I recommend you calling Novatech and ask if there's anything "special" about the store-branded cards. They could be refurbished, come with a short warranty, or lack all the cables/adapters (like the DVI-VGA adapter). The DVI port on the back of these cards, am I right in thinking with an appropriate adapter, I can connect another VGA monitor (like my Sony Trinitron E400 19") ?? If so what cable am I looking for? Yes, you are right. The DVI-VGA adapter should be included in the box. -- "War is the continuation of politics by other means. It can therefore be said that politics is war without bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed." |
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