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Economics of SATA hard drive
"Horst Franke" nospam@invalid wrote in message ... In news:K6omg.198$lv.167@fed1read12 Ed Light typed: My PATA HD and DVD are on the same channel and the HD benches up to its maximum of 40 Mb/S. Device manager lists them at UDMA 133 and 33. Win XP Home. Whether this can happen may depend on the bios. Hi Ed, and what has this to do with the OP's inquery? He asked about SATA! Horst You missed part of the thread. Though I had some news server problems and maybe answered a bit off the appropriate sub-thread. Not sure. I had to skip some messages that wouldn't load. The OP presently has a pata m/b and doesn't really want a pci sata card. One alternative suggested was to get a pata drive and later it would still work on a newer motherboard, then that newer motherboards have only one pata channel, then that having a hd and dvd on the same channel should drop the udma speed to the dvd's. Now my post is relevant. -- Ed Light Smiley :-/ MS Smiley :-\ Send spam to the FTC at Thanks, robots. Bring the Troops Home: http://bringthemhomenow.org |
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Economics of SATA hard drive
"Rod Speed" wrote Yes, but one PATA channel may well not be enough, most obviously if you want to have two optical drives, you're stuffed, no where to put the PATA hard drives. To the rescue! http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822998008 -- Ed Light Smiley :-/ MS Smiley :-\ Send spam to the FTC at Thanks, robots. Bring the Troops Home: http://bringthemhomenow.org |
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"Rod Speed" wrote in message ... Ed Light wrote: My PATA HD and DVD are on the same channel and the HD benches up to its maximum of 40 Mb/S. Device manager lists them at UDMA 133 and 33. Win XP Home. Whether this can happen may depend on the bios. Nope, not anymore. How far back? KT133? Pentium 1? -- Ed Light Smiley :-/ MS Smiley :-\ Send spam to the FTC at Thanks, robots. Bring the Troops Home: http://bringthemhomenow.org |
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Economics of SATA hard drive
"Warra" wrote in message
... Am in the UK. Running an old system which works quite well: Via 266 mobo with Duron 1800 processor and 768MB of SD-RAM. Will upgrade the system when I need the extra power. Currently need to add to my data storage. Don't want to get Parallel IDE (PATA) because newer mobos will support only SATA. Can get a 250GB Samsung hard drive (from Komplett) for about £60 inc delivery which is a real bargain. But a PCI SATA adaptor by Sunsway from the same dealer costs £19. It supports 2 SATA devices. That is definitely not a bargain as it's one- third of the price of the 250 GB drive! What a swizz! What viable alternatives do I have? My new motherboard has 2 PATA channels. Wasn`t enough for me, so paid about £10 for a PCI PATA card, giving me another 2 channels, allowing me 8 PATA drives. Maybe this would be the better way round for you to go - get a PATA drive now, and buy the PCI card in the future IF your new M/B doesn`t have enough channels. |
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Ed Light wrote
Rod Speed wrote Yes, but one PATA channel may well not be enough, most obviously if you want to have two optical drives, you're stuffed, no where to put the PATA hard drives. To the rescue! http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822998008 Dont need that if you have enough of a clue to buy a SATA drive. |
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Rod Speed wrote:
Merrill P. L. Worthington wrote: ~misfit~ wrote: Merrill P. L. Worthington wrote: Warra wrote: Am in the UK. Running an old system which works quite well: Via 266 mobo with Duron 1800 processor and 768MB of SD-RAM. Will upgrade the system when I need the extra power. Currently need to add to my data storage. Don't want to get Parallel IDE (PATA) because newer mobos will support only SATA. Can get a 250GB Samsung hard drive (from Komplett) for about £60 inc delivery which is a real bargain. But a PCI SATA adaptor by Sunsway from the same dealer costs £19. It supports 2 SATA devices. That is definitely not a bargain as it's one- third of the price of the 250 GB drive! What a swizz! What viable alternatives do I have? Consider getting a PATA drive of whatever size fits your needs. When its time to move to another motherboard, look for one that will support the hard drive. If it only has one PATA interface, it may be possible to use it for both the hard drive and a DVD drive. Since DVDs typically runs at 66mhz, the hard drive would probably run at that reduced bandwidth. BUT the good news is that hard drives rarely transfer data any faster than that except for burst from cache. What a crock of misinformation! Ya think? Prove it. YOU made those stupid pig ignorant claims. YOU get to do the proving. THATS how it works. Thank you Rod. Couldn't have said it better. At least three totally inaccurate statements in there and at least one questionable. I'm glad I didn't have this guy teaching me PC stuff. -- Shaun. |
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Economics of SATA hard drive
Ed Light wrote:
"Horst Franke" nospam@invalid wrote in message ... In news:K6omg.198$lv.167@fed1read12 Ed Light typed: My PATA HD and DVD are on the same channel and the HD benches up to its maximum of 40 Mb/S. Device manager lists them at UDMA 133 and 33. Win XP Home. Whether this can happen may depend on the bios. Hi Ed, and what has this to do with the OP's inquery? He asked about SATA! Horst You missed part of the thread. Though I had some news server problems and maybe answered a bit off the appropriate sub-thread. Not sure. I had to skip some messages that wouldn't load. The OP presently has a pata m/b and doesn't really want a pci sata card. One alternative suggested was to get a pata drive and later it would still work on a newer motherboard, then that newer motherboards have only one pata channel, then that having a hd and dvd on the same channel should drop the udma speed to the dvd's. No it doesnt. Now my post is relevant. No it isnt, its just plain wrong. |
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Ed Light wrote:
"Rod Speed" wrote in message ... Ed Light wrote: My PATA HD and DVD are on the same channel and the HD benches up to its maximum of 40 Mb/S. Device manager lists them at UDMA 133 and 33. Win XP Home. Whether this can happen may depend on the bios. Nope, not anymore. How far back? KT133? Pentium 1? Back about then. |
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Simon Finnigan wrote:
"Warra" wrote in message ... Am in the UK. Running an old system which works quite well: Via 266 mobo with Duron 1800 processor and 768MB of SD-RAM. Will upgrade the system when I need the extra power. Currently need to add to my data storage. Don't want to get Parallel IDE (PATA) because newer mobos will support only SATA. Can get a 250GB Samsung hard drive (from Komplett) for about £60 inc delivery which is a real bargain. But a PCI SATA adaptor by Sunsway from the same dealer costs £19. It supports 2 SATA devices. That is definitely not a bargain as it's one- third of the price of the 250 GB drive! What a swizz! What viable alternatives do I have? My new motherboard has 2 PATA channels. Wasn`t enough for me, so paid about £10 for a PCI PATA card, giving me another 2 channels, allowing me 8 PATA drives. Maybe this would be the better way round for you to go - get a PATA drive now, and buy the PCI card in the future IF your new M/B doesn`t have enough channels. Makes more sense to do it the other way, buy a SATA drive and a SATA PCI card, because that will be used only in the dinosaur that wont be that fast anyway. No point in crippling the speed of the hard drives in a new fast system by having them on a PCI card. |
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On 22 Jun 2006, Merrill P. L. wrote:
Warra wrote: Am in the UK. Running an old system which works quite well: Via 266 mobo with Duron 1800 processor and 768MB of SD-RAM. Will upgrade the system when I need the extra power. Currently need to add to my data storage. Don't want to get Parallel IDE (PATA) because newer mobos will support only SATA. Can get a 250GB Samsung hard drive (from Komplett) for about œ60 inc delivery which is a real bargain. But a PCI SATA adaptor by Sunsway from the same dealer costs œ19. It supports 2 SATA devices. That is definitely not a bargain as it's one- third of the price of the 250 GB drive! What a swizz! What viable alternatives do I have? Consider getting a PATA drive of whatever size fits your needs. When its time to move to another motherboard, look for one that will support the hard drive. If it only has one PATA interface, it may be possible to use it for both the hard drive and a DVD drive. Since DVDs typically runs at 66mhz, the hard drive would probably run at that reduced bandwidth. BUT the good news is that hard drives rarely transfer data any faster than that except for burst from cache. I already have five or six PATA drives I run simultaneously. I use a PCI PATA extender but I prefer to avoid drives on the PCI PATA card as I get: No SMART reporting. Can't boot from a partition on one of them. Drive & partition seq numbers are different in BIOS, OS & in utils. Slower overall booting due to PCI card checks. etc I don't really want to have two PCI PATA cards (my old one and a new one) on a new mobo that supports only one P-IDE port. |
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