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which cards can do directX 9?
I am totally confused:
Bought a game for my son: Lego Bionicles (PC). Per the box and website, it requires DirectX 9.0. The box also says ATI Radeon w/32MB or NVidia.. http://shop.lego.com/product.asp?p=14683 OK. I need to get him a new graphics card (currently cheap built-in graphics, but there is an AGP slot.) When I look at the ads, only the new ($$$) say the are DirectX 9. (And obviously nothing with only 32MB of graphics memory is in that category.) Can older and/or less expensive boards support DirectX 9.0? As the box says it only needs a card with 32MB, I doubt this is an overly demanding game. What cards would you recommend for up to $75 that would support DirectX 9. And how much more can I get if I go to $100. (Bearing in mind that this computer will probably get replaced in ~2 years and we will move on to PCI Express, etc.) Thanks in advance. |
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"bill" wrote in message
... I am totally confused: Bought a game for my son: Lego Bionicles (PC). Per the box and website, it requires DirectX 9.0. The box also says ATI Radeon w/32MB or NVidia.. http://shop.lego.com/product.asp?p=14683 OK. I need to get him a new graphics card (currently cheap built-in graphics, but there is an AGP slot.) When I look at the ads, only the new ($$$) say the are DirectX 9. (And obviously nothing with only 32MB of graphics memory is in that category.) Can older and/or less expensive boards support DirectX 9.0? As the box says it only needs a card with 32MB, I doubt this is an overly demanding game. What cards would you recommend for up to $75 that would support DirectX 9. And how much more can I get if I go to $100. (Bearing in mind that this computer will probably get replaced in ~2 years and we will move on to PCI Express, etc.) Thanks in advance. copy and pasted: BIONICLE PC System Requirements Operating system: Microsoft Windows® 98/2000/ME/XP Processor: 600 MHz Intel Pentium III processor or 100% Compatible Memory: 64MB RAM CD-DVD: 4x CD ROM/DVD drive Graphics Card: 32MB Direct3D video card with DirectXT 9 compatible driver (with hardware T&L support) It says with a Directx 9 Compatible driver. Most cards from the past 3 years has the HARDWARE T&L support, even though they can't do some of the things done in DirectX 9.0. (such as pixel shading, etc). http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...alog=48&depa=0 Radeon 9000 for $63.00. That'll be good. But before I, or anyone else, starts listing off video cards, what kind of system do you have? CPU, RAM, OS, etc??? -Sean |
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a geforce fx5600 is dx9 ready or as suggested the ati 9000
"bill" wrote in message ... I am totally confused: Bought a game for my son: Lego Bionicles (PC). Per the box and website, it requires DirectX 9.0. The box also says ATI Radeon w/32MB or NVidia.. http://shop.lego.com/product.asp?p=14683 OK. I need to get him a new graphics card (currently cheap built-in graphics, but there is an AGP slot.) When I look at the ads, only the new ($$$) say the are DirectX 9. (And obviously nothing with only 32MB of graphics memory is in that category.) Can older and/or less expensive boards support DirectX 9.0? As the box says it only needs a card with 32MB, I doubt this is an overly demanding game. What cards would you recommend for up to $75 that would support DirectX 9. And how much more can I get if I go to $100. (Bearing in mind that this computer will probably get replaced in ~2 years and we will move on to PCI Express, etc.) Thanks in advance. |
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ATI 9600 will do the job.
9600SE 64-bit memory pathway, 200mhz memory 9600 128 bit memory pathway, 300-325mhz memory. 9600PRO " " 9600XT " " 9600SE $85 9600 $120 9600PRO $140 9600XT $155 www.pricewatch.com "bill" wrote in message ... I am totally confused: Bought a game for my son: Lego Bionicles (PC). Per the box and website, it requires DirectX 9.0. The box also says ATI Radeon w/32MB or NVidia.. http://shop.lego.com/product.asp?p=14683 OK. I need to get him a new graphics card (currently cheap built-in graphics, but there is an AGP slot.) When I look at the ads, only the new ($$$) say the are DirectX 9. (And obviously nothing with only 32MB of graphics memory is in that category.) Can older and/or less expensive boards support DirectX 9.0? As the box says it only needs a card with 32MB, I doubt this is an overly demanding game. What cards would you recommend for up to $75 that would support DirectX 9. And how much more can I get if I go to $100. (Bearing in mind that this computer will probably get replaced in ~2 years and we will move on to PCI Express, etc.) Thanks in advance. |
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"Sean" wrote in message news:HpNKb.764136$Tr4.2196150@attbi_s03... "bill" wrote in message ... I am totally confused: Bought a game for my son: Lego Bionicles (PC). Per the box and website, it requires DirectX 9.0. The box also says ATI Radeon w/32MB or NVidia.. http://shop.lego.com/product.asp?p=14683 OK. I need to get him a new graphics card (currently cheap built-in graphics, but there is an AGP slot.) When I look at the ads, only the new ($$$) say the are DirectX 9. (And obviously nothing with only 32MB of graphics memory is in that category.) Can older and/or less expensive boards support DirectX 9.0? As the box says it only needs a card with 32MB, I doubt this is an overly demanding game. What cards would you recommend for up to $75 that would support DirectX 9. And how much more can I get if I go to $100. (Bearing in mind that this computer will probably get replaced in ~2 years and we will move on to PCI Express, etc.) Thanks in advance. copy and pasted: BIONICLE PC System Requirements Operating system: Microsoft Windows® 98/2000/ME/XP Processor: 600 MHz Intel Pentium III processor or 100% Compatible Memory: 64MB RAM CD-DVD: 4x CD ROM/DVD drive Graphics Card: 32MB Direct3D video card with DirectXT 9 compatible driver (with hardware T&L support) It says with a Directx 9 Compatible driver. Most cards from the past 3 years has the HARDWARE T&L support, even though they can't do some of the things done in DirectX 9.0. (such as pixel shading, etc). http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?desc ription=14-156-005&catalog=48&depa=0 Radeon 9000 for $63.00. That'll be good. But before I, or anyone else, starts listing off video cards, what kind of system do you have? CPU, RAM, OS, etc??? -Sean Thanks, Sean. I noticed this at the Newegg link: Support 3D API: DirectX®8.1, OpenGL® When the retail sites, etc. list this info (DirectX 8.1) are they really just parroting what ATI put on the box, i.e. what version the board shipped (or ships) with? (On the CD in the box, I suppose.) I don't know the production dates for the various cards, but I assume that a 9000 shipped by Newegg was produced many months ago, before DirectX 9. Obviously, nobody is going to repackage a board just so they can put in a CD with 9.0. I'll get the specs tomorrow morning. (It would creep out my 13-year old if I snuck into his room to start checking out his computer. Although he may be up playing Age of Mythology. (He figured out not to leave the lights on because we can see under the door, but not that I can walk outside and see the glow from his monitor or gameboy.) |
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On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 07:43:39 GMT
"bill" wrote: =20 "Sean" wrote in message news:HpNKb.764136$Tr4.2196150@attbi_s03... "bill" wrote in message ... I am totally confused: Bought a game for my son: Lego Bionicles (PC). Per the box and website, it requires DirectX 9.0. The box also says ATI Radeon w/32MB or NVidia.. http://shop.lego.com/product.asp?p=3D14683 OK. I need to get him a new graphics card (currently cheap built-in graphics, but there is an AGP slot.) When I look at the ads, only the new ($$$) say the are DirectX 9. (And obviously nothing with only 32MB of graphics memory is in that category.) Can older and/or less expensive boards support DirectX 9.0? As the box says it only needs a card with 32MB, I doubt this is an overly demanding game. What cards would you recommend for up to $75 that would support DirectX 9. And how much more can I get if I go to $100. (Bearing in mind that this computer will probably get replaced in ~2 years and we will move on to PCI Express, etc.) Thanks in advance. copy and pasted: BIONICLE PC System Requirements Operating system: Microsoft Windows=AE 98/2000/ME/XP Processor: 600 MHz Intel Pentium III processor or 100% Compatible Memory: 64MB RAM CD-DVD: 4x CD ROM/DVD drive Graphics Card: 32MB Direct3D video card with DirectXT 9 compatible driver (with hardware T&L support) It says with a Directx 9 Compatible driver. Most cards from the past 3 years has the HARDWARE T&L support, even though they can't do some of the things done in DirectX 9.0. (such as pixel shading, etc). http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?desc ription=3D14-156-005&catalog=3D48&depa=3D0 Radeon 9000 for $63.00. That'll be good. But before I, or anyone else, starts listing off video cards, what kind of system do you have? CPU, RAM, OS, etc??? -Sean =20 Thanks, Sean. I noticed this at the Newegg link: Support 3D API: DirectX=AE8.1, OpenGL=AE When the retail sites, etc. list this info (DirectX 8.1) are they really just parroting what ATI put on the box, i.e. what version the board shipped (or ships) with? (On the CD in the box, I suppose.) I don't know the production dates for the various cards, but I assume that a 9000 shipped by Newegg was produced many months ago, before DirectX 9. Obviously, nobody is going to repackage a board just so they can put in a CD with 9.0. =20 I'll get the specs tomorrow morning. (It would creep out my 13-year old if I snuck into his room to start checking out his computer. Although he may be up playing Age of Mythology. (He figured out not to leave the lights on because we can see under the door, but not that I can walk outside and see the glow from his monitor or gameboy.) The deal on this is that DirectX 9 adds some new capabilities beyond what DirectX 8 provides. Some of those are implemented in software while others are not. A board that is not designed around DirectX 9 will still work fine with it as long as you don't try to use those new features--if you do they'll either run slowly because they're running in software rather than purpose-made hardware or they won't show up at all because they're not implemented in either. The Radeons numbered below 9500 have hardware acceleration for DirectX 8 but not DirectX 9--they run fine with it with the limitations I mentioned, but that's why Newegg is showing them as having a DirectX 8.1 API. If you want hardware acceleration for all the new stuff then your entry level ATI product would be a Radeon 9500, or in an nvidia product a GeforceFX 5200, although I would advise against the 5200 because even the nvidia advocates admit that it's a dog--go to a 5600 or higher if you go that route. That said, avoid the Radeon 9000 and 9200--if you're going with a DirectX 8.1 ATI board the 9100, which is a relabelled 8500LE, is the best of the current crop but a full 8500 if you can find one at a reasonable price will outperform it. If, however, you're going to get a DirectX 8.1 board then your _best_ option would be a Geforce 4 Ti4200, which you can get for about $15 more than you were going to pay for that 9000--the 4200 is part of the family that until the Radeon 9700 shipped was the performance leader--it's still a fast board. Before you do _any_ of that though, download DirectX 9.0b from Windows Update (you'll need to do that anyway to be sure you have the latest version--it's a big download--will take a few hours with dialup) and install it and see what happens. It may turn out to be fine as it sits--no point in spending money if you don't have to. --=20 --=20 --John Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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"bill" wrote in message ... "Sean" wrote in message news:HpNKb.764136$Tr4.2196150@attbi_s03... "bill" wrote in message ... I am totally confused: Bought a game for my son: Lego Bionicles (PC). Per the box and website, it requires DirectX 9.0. The box also says ATI Radeon w/32MB or NVidia.. http://shop.lego.com/product.asp?p=14683 OK. I need to get him a new graphics card (currently cheap built-in graphics, but there is an AGP slot.) When I look at the ads, only the new ($$$) say the are DirectX 9. (And obviously nothing with only 32MB of graphics memory is in that category.) Can older and/or less expensive boards support DirectX 9.0? As the box says it only needs a card with 32MB, I doubt this is an overly demanding game. What cards would you recommend for up to $75 that would support DirectX 9. And how much more can I get if I go to $100. (Bearing in mind that this computer will probably get replaced in ~2 years and we will move on to PCI Express, etc.) Thanks in advance. copy and pasted: BIONICLE PC System Requirements Operating system: Microsoft Windows® 98/2000/ME/XP Processor: 600 MHz Intel Pentium III processor or 100% Compatible Memory: 64MB RAM CD-DVD: 4x CD ROM/DVD drive Graphics Card: 32MB Direct3D video card with DirectXT 9 compatible driver (with hardware T&L support) It says with a Directx 9 Compatible driver. Most cards from the past 3 years has the HARDWARE T&L support, even though they can't do some of the things done in DirectX 9.0. (such as pixel shading, etc). http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?desc ription=14-156-005&catalog=48&depa=0 Radeon 9000 for $63.00. That'll be good. But before I, or anyone else, starts listing off video cards, what kind of system do you have? CPU, RAM, OS, etc??? -Sean Thanks, Sean. I noticed this at the Newegg link: Support 3D API: DirectX®8.1, OpenGL® When the retail sites, etc. list this info (DirectX 8.1) are they really just parroting what ATI put on the box, i.e. what version the board shipped (or ships) with? (On the CD in the box, I suppose.) I don't know the production dates for the various cards, but I assume that a 9000 shipped by Newegg was produced many months ago, before DirectX 9. Obviously, nobody is going to repackage a board just so they can put in a CD with 9.0. I'll get the specs tomorrow morning. (It would creep out my 13-year old if I snuck into his room to start checking out his computer. Although he may be up playing Age of Mythology. (He figured out not to leave the lights on because we can see under the door, but not that I can walk outside and see the glow from his monitor or gameboy.) The Bionicle game doesn't need a DirectX 9.0 card. Just one with the latest drivers compatible with Directx 9.0, not necessarily a Directx 9.0 card. I doubt the game would need such a card. |
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The Bionicle game doesn't need a DirectX 9.0 card. Just one with the latest drivers compatible with Directx 9.0, not necessarily a Directx 9.0 card. I doubt the game would need such a card. Precisely. DirectX 9 Compatible is not the same thing as DX9 Compliant: compatible=works with software, compliant=fully supported via hardware. I believe the level of hardware support required is DX8.1. |
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DX9 = eye candy no DX9 enhanced/compatible/driver card then no eye candy (what little there is). I play halo, call of duty and
MOH on a 7500 AIW, all is smooth and focused, better on my 9600pro,but not by leaps and bounds...both on P4 2.0+ machines "bill" wrote in message ... I am totally confused: Bought a game for my son: Lego Bionicles (PC). Per the box and website, it requires DirectX 9.0. The box also says ATI Radeon w/32MB or NVidia.. http://shop.lego.com/product.asp?p=14683 OK. I need to get him a new graphics card (currently cheap built-in graphics, but there is an AGP slot.) When I look at the ads, only the new ($$$) say the are DirectX 9. (And obviously nothing with only 32MB of graphics memory is in that category.) Can older and/or less expensive boards support DirectX 9.0? As the box says it only needs a card with 32MB, I doubt this is an overly demanding game. What cards would you recommend for up to $75 that would support DirectX 9. And how much more can I get if I go to $100. (Bearing in mind that this computer will probably get replaced in ~2 years and we will move on to PCI Express, etc.) Thanks in advance. |
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"Sean" wrote in message news:HpNKb.764136$Tr4.2196150@attbi_s03... "bill" wrote in message ... copy and pasted: BIONICLE PC System Requirements Operating system: Microsoft Windows® 98/2000/ME/XP Processor: 600 MHz Intel Pentium III processor or 100% Compatible Memory: 64MB RAM CD-DVD: 4x CD ROM/DVD drive Graphics Card: 32MB Direct3D video card with DirectXT 9 compatible driver (with hardware T&L support) It says with a Directx 9 Compatible driver. Most cards from the past 3 years has the HARDWARE T&L support, even though they can't do some of the things done in DirectX 9.0. (such as pixel shading, etc). http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?desc ription=14-156-005&catalog=48&depa=0 Radeon 9000 for $63.00. That'll be good. But before I, or anyone else, starts listing off video cards, what kind of system do you have? CPU, RAM, OS, etc??? -Sean Here are the specs: eMachine C1641 Athlon XP 1600+ 224 MB ram (that what it reports; I assume it's 256 less 32 that the S3 has grabbed) Phonix Bios (but I can't read the fine print) S3 Graphics Pro Savage DDR (The game's box specifically states that ATI or nVidia is required, so the S3 is probably a roadblock. Hey, my wife bought it online w/o consulting me! I have to admit, it has been decent from a graphics standpoint: plays Age of Mythology and son's other games fine, and the little movies that come with the Lego Bionicles figures really look good. IT DOES HAVE AN AGP SLOT ... one piece of luck - or maybe my wife really was listening to my ramblings about PCs all these years.) Compaq V70 17" monitor Seagate 40GB WD 80GB (added) CDRW TDK 121032A (replaces the DVD-ROM/CDRW that broke after 5 months) (no more refurb unless it has decent warranty: this one only had 3 months) Not bad for $325 15 months ago, except for the warranty and you can't get CD drives from eMachines that match the "artistically curved" front bezel. thanks again Bill |
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