HP says I can't use my new GeForce 6800 Card?

I have a HP Pavilion I bought last March. I just upgraded my card to a
GeForce 6800 128mb AGP. I opened the case and discovered that my power
supply is only 250W, and the GeForce needs 300W minimum. I contacted HP
and they tell that I cannot upgrade my power supply because I could
damage some components, and that it is "unsafe" to use the GF 6800 in
this system.
Does this sound right to you??

HP Pavilion a810 model, Athlon 64 3300+

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I have a HP Pavilion I bought last March. I just upgraded my card to a
GeForce 6800 128mb AGP. I opened the case and discovered that my power
supply is only 250W, and the GeForce needs 300W minimum. I contacted HP
and they tell that I cannot upgrade my power supply because I could
damage some components, and that it is "unsafe" to use the GF 6800 in
this system.
Does this sound right to you??

Does HP use a standard power supply? Or is it proprietary? If it's standard,
then by all means upgrade it. It won't damage anything. Odds are the quality
of the aftermarket PS will be far better than the HP factory one.

How do you know if it's proprietary?

The physical size of the power supply and the area allotted for it is the
first clue. Next is how it mounts. Finally, the connectors and cable lengths
to the motherboard. Or, you might be able to just ask HP. There is also a
"standard" as to what voltages appear at what pins on the power
supply/motherboard connectors/plugs.

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How do you know if it's proprietary?

I really don't know much about this.

The current power supply is a HiPro model HP-D2537F3R.

250Watts

5-15/16" wide
4" deep
3-3/8" tall

From what I can tell it is a common model.

search the net for an antec power supply look at the picture
if the hp doesn't look like the antec it is proprietary
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I really don't know much about this.

The current power supply is a HiPro model HP-D2537F3R.

250Watts

5-15/16" wide
4" deep
3-3/8" tall

From what I can tell it is a common model.

schrieb:

I have a HP Pavilion I bought last March. I just upgraded my card to a
GeForce 6800 128mb AGP. I opened the case and discovered that my power
supply is only 250W, and the GeForce needs 300W minimum. I contacted HP
and they tell that I cannot upgrade my power supply because I could
damage some components, and that it is "unsafe" to use the GF 6800 in
this system.
Does this sound right to you??

Yes (at least to some extend), but there are other things to consider...

First, Your Pavilion uses a generic PSU (it uses generic components in
all areas). Your Pavilions PSU has 250W. But this doesn't mean it won't
run a GF6800, because the Geforce doesn*t _need_ a 300W PSU. It's
however recommend by most card manufacturers since most standard PSUs
aren't very efficient. There are 250W PSUs that deliver more power than
a 350W el-cheapo power supply. What's more important than the Wattage
rating is how many amps your PSU can deliver on the single rails (12V,
5V, 3.3V etc)...

If I were you I'd put the card in the computer and ran a few gfx stress
tests (i.e. 3Dmark 2005 in loop mode). If the computer runs stable
everything is fine, if not just get a better PSU...

Benjamin

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schrieb:

I have a HP Pavilion I bought last March. I just upgraded my card to a
GeForce 6800 128mb AGP. I opened the case and discovered that my power
supply is only 250W, and the GeForce needs 300W minimum. I contacted HP
and they tell that I cannot upgrade my power supply because I could
damage some components, and that it is "unsafe" to use the GF 6800 in
this system.
Does this sound right to you??

Yes (at least to some extend), but there are other things to consider...

First, Your Pavilion uses a generic PSU (it uses generic components in all
areas). Your Pavilions PSU has 250W. But this doesn't mean it won't run a
GF6800, because the Geforce doesn*t _need_ a 300W PSU. It's however
recommend by most card manufacturers since most standard PSUs aren't very
efficient. There are 250W PSUs that deliver more power than a 350W
el-cheapo power supply. What's more important than the Wattage rating is
how many amps your PSU can deliver on the single rails (12V, 5V, 3.3V
etc).

One very key factor is to verify the 20 pin motherboard plug is compatible
with a standard power supply



If I were you I'd put the card in the computer and ran a few gfx stress
tests (i.e. 3Dmark 2005 in loop mode). If the computer runs stable
everything is fine, if not just get a better PSU...

Benjamin

Leadfoot schrieb:

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One very key factor is to verify the 20 pin motherboard plug is compatible
with a standard power supply

Well, since Pavilions aren't really HPs but generic PCs that are
assembled by a subcontractor from generic parts and fitted with HP label
You can use generic parts to replace the PSU.

Benjamin

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/vid...-power_10.html

The 6800 uses very little power, under 39W at full load. Run the card on
your current power supply. Most likely it'll work just fine. If you
experience boot problems or frequent crashes in games, only then upgrade
your power supply.

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I have a HP Pavilion I bought last March. I just upgraded my card to a
GeForce 6800 128mb AGP. I opened the case and discovered that my power
supply is only 250W, and the GeForce needs 300W minimum. I contacted HP
and they tell that I cannot upgrade my power supply because I could
damage some components, and that it is "unsafe" to use the GF 6800 in
this system.
Does this sound right to you??

HP Pavilion a810 model, Athlon 64 3300+