No boot with joy stick attached

I have an odd problem with my new xps 600.

If I boot with the Logiteck joy stick plugged into a
USB port, the system hangs after bios, right at it normally
switches to the starting XP screen.

The stick works fine if plugged in after the machine has booted
to windows.

I uninstalled and reinstalled drivers, with no help.

A search of the Dell forums did not help.

Any ideas?

Thanks,


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Andrew Hall
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wrote:
If I boot with the Logiteck joy stick plugged into a
USB port, the system hangs after bios, right at it normally
switches to the starting XP screen.

Some BIOSen will attempt to boot from really bizarre USB devices. I've
seen this happen with HP AIO printers with USB card readers, for
instance.

Try setting the BIOS boot sequence to not boot from USB {floppies,
etc} or to boot from them last and see what happens.

William P N Smith writes:

wrote:
If I boot with the Logiteck joy stick plugged into a
USB port, the system hangs after bios, right at it normally
switches to the starting XP screen.

William Some BIOSen will attempt to boot from really bizarre USB devices. I've
William seen this happen with HP AIO printers with USB card readers, for
William instance.

William Try setting the BIOS boot sequence to not boot from USB {floppies,
William etc... or to boot from them last and see what happens.

Bingo. Very odd, it was the "Inboard/USB Floppy" option that caused the problem.
So if I ever want to boot to a floppy (memtest/bios update...) I will have to unplug
the joystick and change the boot order.

Thanks, I never would have thought of this.


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William P N Smith writes:

wrote:
Bingo. Very odd, it was the "Inboard/USB Floppy" option that caused the problem.

William Yeah, why the BIOS thinks the joystick is a bootable USB device, or
William why the joystick responds as a storage device is anyone's guess, but
William I've seen this enough times that it rang a bell...

I spoke too soon. I had booted it three times in a row with success, and thought
all was well. Then the problem came back. I moved the joystick to the USB hub in
my monitor, and it is working for now. But I do not trust it yet.

Thanks again,


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Andrew Hall
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wrote:
I spoke too soon. I had booted it three times in a row with success, and thought
all was well. Then the problem came back. I moved the joystick to the USB hub in
my monitor, and it is working for now. But I do not trust it yet.

That might actually help, as the BIOS is unlikely to try to init
external hubs, so it'll be unable to see the joystick. Let us know...

William P N Smith writes:

wrote:
I spoke too soon. I had booted it three times in a row with success, and thought
all was well. Then the problem came back. I moved the joystick to the USB hub in
my monitor, and it is working for now. But I do not trust it yet.

William That might actually help, as the BIOS is unlikely to try to init
William external hubs, so it'll be unable to see the joystick. Let us know...

That was my hope. I have not tested it any more, as I have a busy day.

There is one other USB oddity, I need to have my wireless keyboard plugged into
a specific USB slot to have the keyboard available during the boot. Otherwise it
does not show up until XP starts. It was quite annoying before I figured out the
workaround as I was doing a fair amount of stuff in the bios.



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Andrew Hall
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writes:

William P N Smith writes:
wrote:
I spoke too soon. I had booted it three times in a row with success, and thought
all was well. Then the problem came back. I moved the joystick to the USB hub in
my monitor, and it is working for now. But I do not trust it yet.

William That might actually help, as the BIOS is unlikely to try to init
William external hubs, so it'll be unable to see the joystick. Let us know...

That was my hope. I have not tested it any more, as I have a busy day.

There is one other USB oddity, I need to have my wireless keyboard plugged into
a specific USB slot to have the keyboard available during the boot. Otherwise it
does not show up until XP starts. It was quite annoying before I figured out the
workaround as I was doing a fair amount of stuff in the bios.


Over a week later, and the system has booted every time.
Why the joy stick blocks the boot, even with all floppy and
USB drives taken out of the boot sequence remains a mystery,
but the hub workaround seems robust.

Thanks,
ah


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