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AMD Dual Core CPU in 2005?
I read AMD will sell dual core cpus in 2005.
What's a dual core cpu? Is that like 2 cpu's in one package? |
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GSV Three Minds in a Can wrote:
Bitstring . com, from the wonderful person said I read AMD will sell dual core cpus in 2005. Define 'sell' .. do you mean to HP, or Sun, or do you mean to me/you, and did you mean 'a few units' or 'as many as the market wants'. What's a dual core cpu? Is that like 2 cpu's in one package? Essentially yes. Even better, it just drops into an existing motherboard (if you picked the right one) any idea on which ones are the "right ones"...? i'm considering the Tyan K8WE with a single cheapo opteron 244/246 to start with, and then later upgrading to 2 speedy dual core cpus. on linuxhardware.org tyan had this to say when asked the question on dual core support: -- yan) Dual core support on Tyan's Opteron platforms, is a feature we are very much looking forward to providing to all of our current and future customers. Unfortunately while its not possible at this time to directly comment on whether support will be implemented on the S2885, S2895 or other models from Tyan, customers should be pleased to know we are working to ensure compatibility on platforms going forward. -- doesn't sound very promising.... |
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On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:32:16 +1300, pixel wrote:
GSV Three Minds in a Can wrote: Bitstring . com, from the wonderful person said I read AMD will sell dual core cpus in 2005. Define 'sell' .. do you mean to HP, or Sun, or do you mean to me/you, and did you mean 'a few units' or 'as many as the market wants'. What's a dual core cpu? Is that like 2 cpu's in one package? Essentially yes. Even better, it just drops into an existing motherboard (if you picked the right one) any idea on which ones are the "right ones"...? i'm considering the Tyan K8WE with a single cheapo opteron 244/246 to start with, and then later upgrading to 2 speedy dual core cpus. on linuxhardware.org tyan had this to say when asked the question on dual core support: -- yan) Dual core support on Tyan's Opteron platforms, is a feature we are very much looking forward to providing to all of our current and future customers. Unfortunately while its not possible at this time to directly comment on whether support will be implemented on the S2885, S2895 or other models from Tyan, customers should be pleased to know we are working to ensure compatibility on platforms going forward. -- doesn't sound very promising.... I read this the other way. Of course they cannot guarantee anything until the processors are available and tested. Their attitude seems to be that thay'll support their customers as best they can. I expect nothing less from Tyan. -- Keith |
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keith wrote:
On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:32:16 +1300, pixel wrote: GSV Three Minds in a Can wrote: Bitstring . com, from the wonderful person said I read AMD will sell dual core cpus in 2005. Define 'sell' .. do you mean to HP, or Sun, or do you mean to me/you, and did you mean 'a few units' or 'as many as the market wants'. What's a dual core cpu? Is that like 2 cpu's in one package? Essentially yes. Even better, it just drops into an existing motherboard (if you picked the right one) any idea on which ones are the "right ones"...? i'm considering the Tyan K8WE with a single cheapo opteron 244/246 to start with, and then later upgrading to 2 speedy dual core cpus. on linuxhardware.org tyan had this to say when asked the question on dual core support: -- yan) Dual core support on Tyan's Opteron platforms, is a feature we are very much looking forward to providing to all of our current and future customers. Unfortunately while its not possible at this time to directly comment on whether support will be implemented on the S2885, S2895 or other models from Tyan, customers should be pleased to know we are working to ensure compatibility on platforms going forward. -- doesn't sound very promising.... I read this the other way. Of course they cannot guarantee anything until the processors are available and tested. Their attitude seems to be that thay'll support their customers as best they can. I expect nothing less from Tyan. AMD has said repeatedly that if a motherboard meets AMD's original thermal/power specs for Socket 940, then the dual-core socket 940 chips will work with nothing more than a possible BIOS upgrade needed. HP recently demoed a machine with four dual-core Opterons. That demo machine supposedly used a motherboard made by Tyan - but nothing I read said whether it used one of Tyan's standard 4P motherboards or whether it was something custom made for HP. As well, the S289x boards use the nForce4 chipset and nVidia has said that dual-core will work just fine with all versions of the NF4. I can't remember if nVidia has said anything about the NF3. |
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Rob Stow writes:
keith wrote: On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:32:16 +1300, pixel wrote: GSV Three Minds in a Can wrote: Bitstring . com, from the wonderful person said I read AMD will sell dual core cpus in 2005. Define 'sell' .. do you mean to HP, or Sun, or do you mean to me/you, and did you mean 'a few units' or 'as many as the market wants'. What's a dual core cpu? Is that like 2 cpu's in one package? Essentially yes. Even better, it just drops into an existing motherboard (if you picked the right one) any idea on which ones are the "right ones"...? i'm considering the Tyan K8WE with a single cheapo opteron 244/246 to start with, and then later upgrading to 2 speedy dual core cpus. on linuxhardware.org tyan had this to say when asked the question on dual core support: -- yan) Dual core support on Tyan's Opteron platforms, is a feature we are very much looking forward to providing to all of our current and future customers. Unfortunately while its not possible at this time to directly comment on whether support will be implemented on the S2885, S2895 or other models from Tyan, customers should be pleased to know we are working to ensure compatibility on platforms going forward. -- doesn't sound very promising.... I read this the other way. Of course they cannot guarantee anything until the processors are available and tested. Their attitude seems to be that thay'll support their customers as best they can. I expect nothing less from Tyan. AMD has said repeatedly that if a motherboard meets AMD's original thermal/power specs for Socket 940, then the dual-core socket 940 chips will work with nothing more than a possible BIOS upgrade needed. HP recently demoed a machine with four dual-core Opterons. Yup, I saw such a beast a few months ago on a Windows fair in Copenhagen (was there to meet a friend, not to attend the fair. But it was not a Tyan board, it was one of the standard HP boxes, based on one of the AMD chipsets, as I recall. Alongside of that, there was an OEM design also running 4 dual-cores. (It was in the AMD booth). Regards, Kai -- Kai Harrekilde-Petersen khp(at)harrekilde(dot)dk |
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On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:38:04 +0000, Rob Stow wrote:
keith wrote: On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:32:16 +1300, pixel wrote: GSV Three Minds in a Can wrote: Bitstring . com, from the wonderful person said I read AMD will sell dual core cpus in 2005. Define 'sell' .. do you mean to HP, or Sun, or do you mean to me/you, and did you mean 'a few units' or 'as many as the market wants'. What's a dual core cpu? Is that like 2 cpu's in one package? Essentially yes. Even better, it just drops into an existing motherboard (if you picked the right one) any idea on which ones are the "right ones"...? i'm considering the Tyan K8WE with a single cheapo opteron 244/246 to start with, and then later upgrading to 2 speedy dual core cpus. on linuxhardware.org tyan had this to say when asked the question on dual core support: -- yan) Dual core support on Tyan's Opteron platforms, is a feature we are very much looking forward to providing to all of our current and future customers. Unfortunately while its not possible at this time to directly comment on whether support will be implemented on the S2885, S2895 or other models from Tyan, customers should be pleased to know we are working to ensure compatibility on platforms going forward. -- doesn't sound very promising.... I read this the other way. Of course they cannot guarantee anything until the processors are available and tested. Their attitude seems to be that thay'll support their customers as best they can. I expect nothing less from Tyan. AMD has said repeatedly that if a motherboard meets AMD's original thermal/power specs for Socket 940, then the dual-core socket 940 chips will work with nothing more than a possible BIOS upgrade needed. That was my understanding. One hopes that Tyan followed those specifications for *all* of their products and will stand behind their product. So far they have, IMO, which is why I prefer them. OTOH, I haven't seen the 2875 discussed. ;-) snip -- Keith |
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On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:03:44 -0600, Ed wrote:
On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:25:17 +0100, Kai Harrekilde-Petersen wrote: Rob Stow writes: keith wrote: On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:32:16 +1300, pixel wrote: GSV Three Minds in a Can wrote: Bitstring . com, from the wonderful person said I read AMD will sell dual core cpus in 2005. Define 'sell' .. do you mean to HP, or Sun, or do you mean to me/you, and did you mean 'a few units' or 'as many as the market wants'. What's a dual core cpu? Is that like 2 cpu's in one package? Essentially yes. Even better, it just drops into an existing motherboard (if you picked the right one) any idea on which ones are the "right ones"...? i'm considering the Tyan K8WE with a single cheapo opteron 244/246 to start with, and then later upgrading to 2 speedy dual core cpus. on linuxhardware.org tyan had this to say when asked the question on dual core support: -- yan) Dual core support on Tyan's Opteron platforms, is a feature we are very much looking forward to providing to all of our current and future customers. Unfortunately while its not possible at this time to directly comment on whether support will be implemented on the S2885, S2895 or other models from Tyan, customers should be pleased to know we are working to ensure compatibility on platforms going forward. -- doesn't sound very promising.... I read this the other way. Of course they cannot guarantee anything until the processors are available and tested. Their attitude seems to be that thay'll support their customers as best they can. I expect nothing less from Tyan. AMD has said repeatedly that if a motherboard meets AMD's original thermal/power specs for Socket 940, then the dual-core socket 940 chips will work with nothing more than a possible BIOS upgrade needed. HP recently demoed a machine with four dual-core Opterons. Yup, I saw such a beast a few months ago on a Windows fair in Copenhagen (was there to meet a friend, not to attend the fair. But it was not a Tyan board, it was one of the standard HP boxes, based on one of the AMD chipsets, as I recall. Alongside of that, there was an OEM design also running 4 dual-cores. (It was in the AMD booth). Regards, Kai AMD's Dual Core 90nm Opteron Demonstration Dissected Published: 9/2/04 http://www.amdzone.com/modules.php?o...rtid=56&page=1 Next we come to the HP Proliant DL585. Equipped with 4 940 pin CPU sockets filled with dual core Opterons. HP has clearly put engineering hours into the Proliant and it was well cooled and laid out. Putting our hand to the back of the CPU exhaust revealed an airflow that was far from hot. In fact it reminded us of our air flow test of the original Opteron demo in San Francisco. I like how they put that, how HP has clearly put engineering hours, made me fall out of my chair laughing. Now if they said Tyan put many engineering hours into its development then I agree. Thats like saying Dell has engineered, and developed cutting edge systems. I just wonder how much HP systems reflect the Newisys white box system they used to show different companies. I guess my experience with Tyan is a little biased, because I own one of the infamous mp2460's. In fact that is what I am typing this on, I was also a little surprised by the ATI video flap, with the AMD chipsets. I wonder how the Iwill boards are faring, everyone who has one seems to like them a lot. At least AMD is not going to need new motherboards like Intels, dual cores. http://theinquirer.net/?article=21793 Ok its the Inquirer, but I guess its no surprise. I still think Tyan will be a little hesitant to release bios fixes for current boards. It might cut into their sales, I think they will fix a few models, like the Thunder line maybe choose three or four models. But I think it will all depend of user demand, I really don't think they will do the Tiger line, unless their is such an outcry from the user base. Regardless I will think that the official line will be something on the lines, that they suggest a new motherboard for complete compatible systems, but the bios should work. Gnu_Raiz |
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