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zakezuke wrote:
With all due respect you were the one on the complex trip about how
unreliable the floppy drive is... then revert to how important it is to
have one. Your facts are in conflict.


the drive is reliable but the format and the media is not


So according to you it's important to have a floppy disk drive so in
the event that your CD-rom fails to boot you can take your unreliable
dos disk and generate three boot floppies (does 2k xp support this
method?). If it's so unreliable how can you depend on it to boot into
dos?

Please...measer****head has every right to make a fool out of himself.
In fact, multiple times daily.
It's his right, right.
Frank

zakezuke wrote:

With all due respect you were the one on the complex trip about how
unreliable the floppy drive is... then revert to how important it is to
have one. Your facts are in conflict.





the drive is reliable but the format and the media is not



So according to you it's important to have a floppy disk drive so in
the event that your CD-rom fails to boot you can take your unreliable
dos disk and generate three boot floppies (does 2k xp support this
method?). If it's so unreliable how can you depend on it to boot into
dos?




HONESTLY YOU ARE A REAL JERK. I WILL EXPLAIN IT SO EVEN A SIMPLETIN
LIKE YOU CAN UNDERSTAND. THE CD WILL NOT BOOT. YOU THEN CREATE THE 4
BOOT DISKETTES. YOU THEN TEST THEM. IF ONE OF THEM FAILS (THIS HAS
HAPPENED ) RECREATE THE BAD ONE. ONCE THE MACHINE BOOTS YOU INSTALL THE
OS FROM THE CD. IF YOU CANNOT UNDERSTRAND THAT YOU ARE JUST A ****ING
LOST CAUSE LIKE THE OTHER 2 MAIN ASSHOLES IN THIS NG.

honestly you are a real jerk. i will explain it so even a simpletin
like you can understand. the cd will not boot. you then create the 4
boot diskettes. you then test them. if one of them fails (this has
happened ) recreate the bad one. once the machine boots you install the os
from the cd. if you cannot understrand that you are just a ****ing
lost cause just like the other 2 main assholes in this ng.

I understand perfectly well what you are talking about. Your talking
about WinNT 4.0 and Win2K. The floppy boot of WinXP takes 6 floppies
and the tools to create them are 100% absent in win XP. If you don't
believe me read the following link.

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=310994

It may be possible there is a command line switch for WinXP install
just like there was under NT 4.0, but I can't remember what it is nor
have I had cause to try.

Now... if the floppy disc is unreliable as you claim... having a boot
disk available won't do you any good. You can't create another set
under win4.0 or win2k without a computer that can at least boot to dos.
But on the off chance that you still have a Dos boot disk, and on the
off chance that it still works given how unreliable the disks are
according to you, unless there is an undocumented way to extract boot
floppies from XP it's not going to do you any good. If you don't have
them you need a computer with a working network connection to fetch
them.

Now I agree backups are a good idea, and an alternative boot method is
also a good idea, but you are not limited to floppy. But in this day
and age any system pentium II and above supports booting from the
CD-rom drive so if your CD does not boot odds are either the disk is
screwy or the drive is screwy... so alternative booting is at least
handy for troubleshooting. For this you can use anything you like.

1. CD-rom drive (with some other disk)
2. Boot from USB i.e. Jump Drive
3. Boot from other forms of removable media i.e. zip jaz MMC SD MD XD
whatever
4. Boot from Network
5. Boot from that handy dandy backup partition that comes with many
name brand systems.
*6. Boot from tape (if supported)

Jump Drive requires bios support which isn't an issue if you bought a
system without a floppy drive, Zip/Jaz/other form of removable media
are not an issue. Network booting requires bios support.

But the problem you describe, not being able to boot from CD is for the
most part one which exists only on systems with out the bios support to
boot from a CD. These systems *WILL* have in almost all cases floppy
drives. Any system shipped without a floppy drive supports booting
from CD-rom. For those users who want an alternative boot method other
than CD *just in case* can buy a floppy drive is they like. The Jump
Drive is the most practical on modern systems. It's fast and you can
buy them in sizes that not only support the windows 2k/xp boot
sequence, but the install files or even a full blown windows install.

But if you choose to still use floppies feel free. I'm just shocked
you would reccomend them if they are so unreliable as you claim. And
you are with all due respect talking about DOS, and the last OS that
used DOS at all was circa 2000. So if you want to say the floppy is
unreliable and in the same breath say you should depend on it in case
CD boot fails feel free. I guess I am just a jerk for pointing out the
flaw in your reasoning skills. I understand perfectly well what you
are trying to say, the floppy drive *can* be used to boot a system, and
if you have one you might as well use it. But if you don't own one and
want a backup boot method why not pick something else? Employ the same
idea that you are talking about but just replace "floppy" with "jump
drive".

ATTN: READERS. THIS IS WHAT A *ZUKOWSKI *AKA ZAKEZUKE SOUNDS LIKE. A
BIT OF A PITT BULL BUT NOT AS SMART.

zakezuke wrote:

honestly you are a real jerk. i will explain it so even a simpletin
like you can understand. the cd will not boot. you then create the 4
boot diskettes. you then test them. if one of them fails (this has
happened ) recreate the bad one. once the machine boots you install the os
from the cd. if you cannot understrand that you are just a ****ing
lost cause just like the other 2 main assholes in this ng.



I understand perfectly well what you are talking about. Your talking
about WinNT 4.0 and Win2K. The floppy boot of WinXP takes 6 floppies
and the tools to create them are 100% absent in win XP. If you don't
believe me read the following link.

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=310994

It may be possible there is a command line switch for WinXP install
just like there was under NT 4.0, but I can't remember what it is nor
have I had cause to try.

Now... if the floppy disc is unreliable as you claim... having a boot
disk available won't do you any good. You can't create another set
under win4.0 or win2k without a computer that can at least boot to dos.
But on the off chance that you still have a Dos boot disk, and on the
off chance that it still works given how unreliable the disks are
according to you, unless there is an undocumented way to extract boot
floppies from XP it's not going to do you any good. If you don't have
them you need a computer with a working network connection to fetch
them.

Now I agree backups are a good idea, and an alternative boot method is
also a good idea, but you are not limited to floppy. But in this day
and age any system pentium II and above supports booting from the
CD-rom drive so if your CD does not boot odds are either the disk is
screwy or the drive is screwy... so alternative booting is at least
handy for troubleshooting. For this you can use anything you like.

1. CD-rom drive (with some other disk)
2. Boot from USB i.e. Jump Drive
3. Boot from other forms of removable media i.e. zip jaz MMC SD MD XD
whatever
4. Boot from Network
5. Boot from that handy dandy backup partition that comes with many
name brand systems.
*6. Boot from tape (if supported)

Jump Drive requires bios support which isn't an issue if you bought a
system without a floppy drive, Zip/Jaz/other form of removable media
are not an issue. Network booting requires bios support.

But the problem you describe, not being able to boot from CD is for the
most part one which exists only on systems with out the bios support to
boot from a CD. These systems *WILL* have in almost all cases floppy
drives. Any system shipped without a floppy drive supports booting
from CD-rom. For those users who want an alternative boot method other
than CD *just in case* can buy a floppy drive is they like. The Jump
Drive is the most practical on modern systems. It's fast and you can
buy them in sizes that not only support the windows 2k/xp boot
sequence, but the install files or even a full blown windows install.

But if you choose to still use floppies feel free. I'm just shocked
you would reccomend them if they are so unreliable as you claim. And
you are with all due respect talking about DOS, and the last OS that
used DOS at all was circa 2000. So if you want to say the floppy is
unreliable and in the same breath say you should depend on it in case
CD boot fails feel free. I guess I am just a jerk for pointing out the
flaw in your reasoning skills. I understand perfectly well what you
are trying to say, the floppy drive *can* be used to boot a system, and
if you have one you might as well use it. But if you don't own one and
want a backup boot method why not pick something else? Employ the same
idea that you are talking about but just replace "floppy" with "jump
drive".

zakezuke wrote:
honestly you are a real jerk. i will explain it so even a simpletin
like you can understand. the cd will not boot. you then create the 4
boot diskettes. you then test them. if one of them fails (this has
happened ) recreate the bad one. once the machine boots you install the os
from the cd. if you cannot understrand that you are just a ****ing
lost cause just like the other 2 main assholes in this ng.


I understand perfectly well what you are talking about. Your talking
about WinNT 4.0 and Win2K. The floppy boot of WinXP takes 6 floppies
and the tools to create them are 100% absent in win XP. If you don't
believe me read the following link.

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=310994

It may be possible there is a command line switch for WinXP install
just like there was under NT 4.0, but I can't remember what it is nor
have I had cause to try.

Now... if the floppy disc is unreliable as you claim... having a boot
disk available won't do you any good. You can't create another set
under win4.0 or win2k without a computer that can at least boot to dos.
But on the off chance that you still have a Dos boot disk, and on the
off chance that it still works given how unreliable the disks are
according to you, unless there is an undocumented way to extract boot
floppies from XP it's not going to do you any good. If you don't have
them you need a computer with a working network connection to fetch
them.

Now I agree backups are a good idea, and an alternative boot method is
also a good idea, but you are not limited to floppy. But in this day
and age any system pentium II and above supports booting from the
CD-rom drive so if your CD does not boot odds are either the disk is
screwy or the drive is screwy... so alternative booting is at least
handy for troubleshooting. For this you can use anything you like.

1. CD-rom drive (with some other disk)
2. Boot from USB i.e. Jump Drive
3. Boot from other forms of removable media i.e. zip jaz MMC SD MD XD
whatever
4. Boot from Network
5. Boot from that handy dandy backup partition that comes with many
name brand systems.
*6. Boot from tape (if supported)

Jump Drive requires bios support which isn't an issue if you bought a
system without a floppy drive, Zip/Jaz/other form of removable media
are not an issue. Network booting requires bios support.

But the problem you describe, not being able to boot from CD is for the
most part one which exists only on systems with out the bios support to
boot from a CD. These systems *WILL* have in almost all cases floppy
drives. Any system shipped without a floppy drive supports booting
from CD-rom. For those users who want an alternative boot method other
than CD *just in case* can buy a floppy drive is they like. The Jump
Drive is the most practical on modern systems. It's fast and you can
buy them in sizes that not only support the windows 2k/xp boot
sequence, but the install files or even a full blown windows install.

But if you choose to still use floppies feel free. I'm just shocked
you would reccomend them if they are so unreliable as you claim. And
you are with all due respect talking about DOS, and the last OS that
used DOS at all was circa 2000. So if you want to say the floppy is
unreliable and in the same breath say you should depend on it in case
CD boot fails feel free. I guess I am just a jerk for pointing out the
flaw in your reasoning skills. I understand perfectly well what you
are trying to say, the floppy drive *can* be used to boot a system, and
if you have one you might as well use it. But if you don't own one and
want a backup boot method why not pick something else? Employ the same
idea that you are talking about but just replace "floppy" with "jump
drive".

Hey zakezuke, you know that you're talking to a brain dead moron that no
one in this entire ng gives a **** about what he says. We all know that
he is chronic liar. Nothing he says has any value to anyone in this ng.
Kill file his stupid ass and be done with him. I have and I only see
people like you reply to him.
Do yourself a big favor and lose the loser.
Frank

attn: readers. this is what a *zukowski* aka zakezuke sounds like
a
bit of a pitt bull but not as smart

I only pointed out the facts... officaly you can not create boot
floppies from WinXP. You can download them from Microsoft. You were
totally unaware of this fact as you kept on bringing up 4 boot floppies
where XP requires 6. What you propose isn't supported, not booting to
DOS and making boot floppies from the CD-ROM. The last time I
installed windows from a dos session I did so from the dos prompt on
the Win98se CD-rom.

The issue you describe is limited to *some* socket 7, most socket 5,
and almost pre pentium machines, all of which were shipped with floppy
drives. Keep in mind that Win98 was the first boot CD-rom that
microsoft released.

You see, this is the problem getting your advice from PC-World. The
advice of using your floppy drive to diagnose problems with the CD
drive is sound, so long as you have one. New systems are often shipped
with out one. That's a fact. You can throw as many fits as you like
but this won't change the fact that that shiny new HP or Dell does not
have a floppy drive. You can boot from modern media, this isn't a
problem. The floppy is dead. Get with the program and have an
inspirational day.

On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 00:36:43 GMT, measekite
wrote:

ATTN: READERS. THIS IS WHAT A *ZUKOWSKI *AKA ZAKEZUKE SOUNDS LIKE. A
BIT OF A PITT BULL BUT NOT AS SMART.

Oh? And you think you are smarter? Only a real dumb troll would
quote a 100+ lines and top post with a 2 line baseless insult.
Zukowski made far better sense than you ever did.
--
When you hear the toilet flush, and hear the words "uh oh", it's already
too late. - by anonymous Mother in Austin, TX
To reply, replace digi.mon with phreaker.net

*NOTHING IS NECESSARY UNTIL YOU NEED IT.*

Then you need to start cleaning out your supply of comdoms because
you'll never use them as seeing no one would want to be with you.

I WILL LET YOU LICK THE USED ONES. THAT SEEMS TO BE ALL YOU ARE GOOD FOR.

Only if you haven't used them on goats or your mother.
--
When you hear the toilet flush, and hear the words "uh oh", it's already
too late. - by anonymous Mother in Austin, TX
To reply, replace digi.mon with phreaker.net

Oh? And you think you are smarter? Only a real dumb troll would
quote a 100+ lines and top post with a 2 line baseless insult.
Zukowski made far better sense than you ever did.

I understand what measekite is trying to say perfectly well... here are
the bullet points.

-measekite's statements
* "floppy disks fail frequently and are subject to all sorts of
problems if not handled with care"
* because floppys fail frequently it's important to have one if "for
example you need to reinstall your os and for some reason you cannot
get your cd to auto start the install process so you take a floppy and
boot dos".
* anyone who disagrees with me is a dumb jerk.

So measekite advices that you depend on unreliable media with 7 year
old software media that's been having out for years that fails
frequently to boot a computer to make 4 boot disks, a feature not
included with windows for 5 years. If something that is reliable
fails, try something unreliable.

This makes absolute sense to anyone who doesn't know that you can type
in a letter other than "A" when creating boot disks, well unless you
have WinME.

Impmon wrote:
*NOTHING IS NECESSARY UNTIL YOU NEED IT.*


Then you need to start cleaning out your supply of comdoms because
you'll never use them as seeing no one would want to be with you.


I WILL LET YOU LICK THE USED ONES. THAT SEEMS TO BE ALL YOU ARE GOOD FOR.


Only if you haven't used them on goats or your mother.

hehehehe....good one! :-)
Frank