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On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 17:18:34 +0200, jack wrote:
keith wrote: : On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 21:33:58 +0000, Scott Alfter wrote: snip : ...just another example of what leftists consider free : speech/thought. If you don't agree with them, your rights don't : exist. And so Vswm No. 2 steps up to spew his usual rhetoric. You're even a bigger right-wing asshole than Vswm No. 1.....plonk! See? The looney-left cannot stand anyone who disagrees with them. Their heads are going to pop on Nov 3. -- Keith |
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In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips Franklin wrote:
A Barton 2500+ (with maybe an Asus A78NX mobo) is more than enough power for me but am I buying into obsolescence? Athlon64 is where the growth will be and furture residual values will be higher than for Barton. Future residual values? These are computers, not real estate -- odds are by the time you need to get a new machine, you'll have trouble getting more than beer money for the machine. I've had trouble giving away some of the machines I've had. -- Nate Edel http://www.nkedel.com/ "I do have a cause though. It is obscenity. I'm for it." - Tom Lehrer |
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On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 12:58:21 +0100, Daniel James wrote:
Compare that with the Z80 (8+16[1]+16+16=14 bits) the 6502 beloved of Apple II and PET user (8+8+8+16=10 bits) and the 68000 (32+32+32+24=30 bits). Considering that these chips were all available when the PC was designed: I know which chip *I'd* have used! Me too, but the 68000 only had a 16 bit data bus. And at the time, cpu's were rated rated by the data bus width. Then 68000 which was defined by Motorola as a 16 bit cpu is now define as a 32bit cpu.:-) 8088 (8/16) was defined by Intel as an 8 bit cpu. Today it's defined as a 16bit CPU. One can no longer take anything for granted as the companys have started fudging and cludging numbers for marketing hype. Here's the best BS I've ever seen. NEC compares their NEAX 2000 pbx to Toshiba's (forgot the name) calling their processor a powerful 32bit bit compared to Toshibas 16bit. NEC was using a 486SLC (8 bit data bus) while Toshiba used a 68000 (16 bit data bues).:-) Now if you have ever used the 2, you know what I mean. -- Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB) http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm |
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On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 11:06:51 -0400, keith wrote:
On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 15:12:39 +0200, Kai Harrekilde-Petersen wrote: It is well publized that IBM chose a lower-end CPU for the PC in order not to compete with other business divisions. Not really. The reason the 8088 was chosen was for cost. A 16b bus would have doubled the cost of the bus and the minimum memory configuration. Remember, memory was *expensive*. ...as was SSI/MSI TTL and packaging. Hmmm... Cost played a part in ti, but the 80xx architecture was chosen because that's the only micro architecture the developers were familiar with and they wanted to get it out fast. It was just a matter of months before someone came out with a real 16 bit cpu, the 8086, and it wasn't IBM. -- Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB) http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm |
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