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Gigabyte whacked out on me again
AMD Gigabyte MB - thought I'd "cured it" of high temps by lowering the
HyperTransport multiplier. Storm yesterday and a few brown-outs, two or three, longest maybe 15 seconds. Nothing unusual in rebooting, except upon noticing Speed Fan's report aggressive high temps. Again. It was rock solid before. Cool temps that seemed -never- to deviate, not that I noticed, which could be considered suspicious. CPU jumped from 96F to 111-115. MB and chipset are reporting - from 111-115F prior to now 117-127F. Wham bam and a 10 degree jump "across the board." Reset the BIOS, tried to get the HyperTransport aspect again to work in cooling things down, but no go. Hot no matter what I set what, basically anything/everything relevant (within -workable- parameters - I'm not dropping a 4 cores @2.2Ghz down to 1.2Ghz, for instance). Nary now a clue to that particular BIOS chipset, I'm running with. Prior non-deviating temps - if it looks too good to be true, maybe it was. (If it quacks like a duck, it must be a duck.) It'll jump from 117F with a load now to 127F. Might have been something whacked out, which changed, between layering the sensors into SpeedFan. Nothing like 3 or 4 abrupt power outages to abruptly wake up, get over it, and onto the smell roasting roses. It's back, for me, to Gigabyte's promoting itself, alongside the gods of QC, for high-tolerance components with resistance to hostile environments. I'm just about totally sold-off of any high-wattage CPU. If and when I upgrade it's going to be 25nano-die core technology and 45watt-draw stuff. These new generation of 125-145watt AMD multicores, (mine's only 80 watts), just holding that thought makes my dick sore. |
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Gigabyte whacked out on me again
Flasherly wrote:
AMD Gigabyte MB - thought I'd "cured it" of high temps by lowering the HyperTransport multiplier. Storm yesterday and a few brown-outs, two or three, longest maybe 15 seconds. Are you using a surge protector? Bill |
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Gigabyte whacked out on me again
On Wed, 27 May 2015 17:47:12 -0400, Bill
wrote: Are you using a surge protector? Bill No need. Gigabyte claims they've got that covered, (over-spec'd support circuitry), too. It's the age of Military Spec'd MBs, between MSI and Gigabyte claims for extra protection. Some of the newer, the latest stuff in that direction adds high-humidity (approaching water-proof, eh). New fiber composite ribbon windings in the epoxy construction is another -- for better trace layering signal pathways. I live in area with high outages. Certain times of the year, they're regular. Surge protector is OK, not much better than nothing, whereas a UPS is essential in any serious sense. I'm not that critical, just semi-used to be blown out of the water periodically. Not so great on electronics, but not so bad, either. I suspect it helps weed out less than robust engineering. It's the direct hits from nearby electrical storms that get all the repair business, but I'm more or less out of that "alley-way" and see mostly brownouts. I've talked to some, tho, who have told me they've had balls of lightning roll through the door and through the house. That's a hair straightener. |
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Gigabyte whacked out on me again
On Thu, 28 May 2015 01:00:32 -0400, Flasherly
wrote: I've had this MB long enough for 4 CPU - still have them all. The original Orleans I bought with it. It's sorta a Sempron, I guess. An Athlon 64 bit single core (have it - *hope* it went in the same MB, been awhile) Athlon dual core The latest Phenom x4 (both that and the dual are off ebay) (Somebody last week just gave me a newer 3.2Ghz Regor x2 Phenom, but won't know -it's not listed spec'd/supported- until I try/install and boot with it. Remote chance.) (Worst comes to worst, can't stand the heat, I can go back to that friggin' Orleans - also have another look at the a64, in case it's a valid CPU. I do recall the Orleans well - dog-assed, marginally slow. I can possibly go reductivist, tho, within that margin. Or buy a newer MB, Intel, or lower AMD wattage, newer die technology/higher-power and chalk one up for hotpants impulse buying. I don't do generally *treats,* but I have had this MB going on 10 years. And apart the heat it looks/acts exactly the same as when I got it. New.) |
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Gigabyte whacked out on me again
Flasherly wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2015 17:47:12 -0400, Bill wrote: Are you using a surge protector? Bill No need. Gigabyte claims they've got that covered, (over-spec'd support circuitry), too. You, of all people, believe everything you hear??? : ) To be honest, I don't know how well they have "got that covered"...but, I'm suspicious. It's the age of Military Spec'd MBs, between MSI and Gigabyte claims for extra protection. Some of the newer, the latest stuff in that direction adds high-humidity (approaching water-proof, eh). New fiber composite ribbon windings in the epoxy construction is another -- for better trace layering signal pathways. I live in area with high outages. Certain times of the year, they're regular. Surge protector is OK, not much better than nothing, whereas a UPS is essential in any serious sense. I'm not that critical, just semi-used to be blown out of the water periodically. Not so great on electronics, but not so bad, either. I suspect it helps weed out less than robust engineering. It's the direct hits from nearby electrical storms that get all the repair business, but I'm more or less out of that "alley-way" and see mostly brownouts. I've talked to some, tho, who have told me they've had balls of lightning roll through the door and through the house. That's a hair straightener. |
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Gigabyte whacked out on me again
On Thu, 28 May 2015 15:38:56 -0400, Bill wrote:
| Flasherly wrote: | On Wed, 27 May 2015 17:47:12 -0400, Bill | wrote: | | Are you using a surge protector? | Bill | No need. Gigabyte claims they've got that covered, (over-spec'd | support circuitry), too. | You, of all people, believe everything you hear??? : ) | To be honest, I don't know how well they have "got that covered"...but, | I'm suspicious. No matter what any computer part manufacturer says, a good surge protector is one of those things in the "better safe than sorry" category, IMO. Larc |
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Gigabyte whacked out on me again
On Thu, 28 May 2015 15:38:56 -0400, Bill
wrote: No need. Gigabyte claims they've got that covered, (over-spec'd support circuitry), too. You, of all people, believe everything you hear??? : ) To be honest, I don't know how well they have "got that covered"...but, I'm suspicious. That's usually my credo, too, but after ... hm*, 6, not 10 years, (of course production/manuf. predates that 6 by some). Still a long time for as-new excellency -- thru enough brown-outs to be as seasonal as hurricanes. (I'd knock on wood for a good measure of suspiciousness, except past two weeks I've been replacing a wooden fence, that's seen its share of hurricane winds, with a PVC panels. Brutal. All the 8' spaced posts have to closely moved in for 6' lengths. About halfway done, once all goes well nobody feaks out -- Sanitation Dept. came by to double-check what I piled on the curb wasn't Commercial Work -- and it's hauled off, out of sight and mind.) Dunno what I'd do on quiet nights without my Gigabyte variously serving as a multimedia platform. 130F operationally chipped to a load, withstanding. Flash back BIOS to older and flash then to current to try and duplicate, at least until that storm a couple days ago, what the HyperThreading BIOS setting did for temperatures for a month's alleged smooth and cool, reported temps -- 30days of bliss at least 10F lower "across the board," than what I'm presently back up to. Maybe. Bunch'a damn more work, in the grand Game of Life, for potentially a wild goose chase. * 1/11/2009 Inv #43282408 AMD Athlon 64 LE-1640 Orleans 2.6GHz Socket AM2 45W Single-Core Processor ADH1640DHBOX Item #: N82E16819103239 512M L2 cache (not 1M) --Processors (CPUs) Return Policy $35.99 G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5D-2GBNQ Item #: N82E16820231098 Limited Non-Refundable 30-Day Return Policy $31.99 2 GIGABYTE GA-M61PME-S2 AM2 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 / nForce 430 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard Item #: N82E16813128333 30 Day Return Policy Gigabyte (626)-854-9338 option 4 www.giga-byte.com $48.99 |
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Gigabyte whacked out on me again
Larc wrote:
On Thu, 28 May 2015 15:38:56 -0400, Bill wrote: | Flasherly wrote: | On Wed, 27 May 2015 17:47:12 -0400, Bill | wrote: | | Are you using a surge protector? | Bill | No need. Gigabyte claims they've got that covered, (over-spec'd | support circuitry), too. | You, of all people, believe everything you hear??? : ) | To be honest, I don't know how well they have "got that covered"...but, | I'm suspicious. No matter what any computer part manufacturer says, a good surge protector is one of those things in the "better safe than sorry" category, IMO. Larc If I had dirty Hydro at a site, I'd either want a double-conversion UPS (the kind the IT department uses), or I'd want a motor-generator set. A double-conversion UPS is more affordable, and are available at lower power ratings. People use motor-generator sets, for converting 220V single phase, into three phase for running induction motors in a home wood shop (for the lathe or for a surface planer). Your power company will not provide three-phase if you phone them up, because your residential neighborhood isn't wired for that. But you can still do conversion with a motor-generator... for a price. The motor-generator provided filtering via the flywheel effect. If an improper stimulus is applied for too long, a series element has to open to disconnect the motor side, and prevent damage. So in both those cases, they have a "filtering" element, as well as needing a strategy in case an insult lasts for a significant period of time. In the only case of computer equipment damage at my house, it was a piece of equipment connected to the surge-protected UPS that got damaged. All the other gear, not connected to that UPS, was fine. I went out for lunch, to a local hamburger joint, and as I was looking out the window, I saw a lightning bolt fall in the general direction of my neighborhood. When I got home, the CRT on the computer was damaged. And, it was not a cheap CRT either. The CRT cost more than the computer. The thing weighed around 80 pounds, and only this year, I took it to the recycler to get rid of it. What a job getting it up the basement stairs... :-) Paul |
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On Thu, 28 May 2015 18:55:04 -0400, Paul wrote:
double-conversion UPS (the kind the IT department uses), or I'd want a motor-generator set. A double-conversion UPS is more affordable, and are available at lower power ratings. People use motor-generator sets, for converting 220V single phase, into three phase for running induction motors in a home wood shop (for the lathe or for a surface planer). Your power company will not provide three-phase if you phone them up, because your residential neighborhood isn't wired for that. But you can still do conversion with a motor-generator... for a price. Had that at work. Car motor, the first one, not sure the second. Both room-sized and both built on a dedicated concrete base for a rather large complex w/ 360V 3-phase. I've heard from one-to-one transformers to neon earth-grounded setups in surge protection. Depending... It's a big repair business around here, lightning, so when "season" comes they're all out and getting the big payday. I like surge protectors fine with grain of salt and dash of snakeoil for flavoring. Just glad I'm not in an area more prone to hits, as are some. Not nice being nearby close to a strike, and I've seen a few. All that sudden noise, associated excitement - and I might get away with a headache. I'd rather get kicks with my 220V Lincoln stick arc welder on a 60-amp fuse I replaced for a double-duty dryer outlet. Any day. |
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