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Two Optical Drives On The Same IDE Channel
I put my NEC 3540 as Secondary Master and an older LG CD-RW as
Secondary Slave. They were jumpered as M and S - no CS. The BIOS had no problems identifying them during POST, but Win2K/SP4 hung at the part where it is doing PnP - just before it flashes the KB lights. Win2K can handle either unit alone with no problems. It's when they are both present that Win2K can't deal with it. What is going on? -- Greatest Movie Line Ever http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/MovieLine.wmv "Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law,' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual." -- Thomas Jefferson |
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Win2K can handle either unit alone with no problems. It's when they are both present that Win2K can't deal with it. Try jumpering both in the CS position. You could also try going into device manager and 'uninstalling' whatever drive is currently connected, turn the system off, put both drives in and turn the system back on. -- "I don't cheat to survive. I cheat to LIVE!!" - Alceryes "Bob" wrote in message ... I put my NEC 3540 as Secondary Master and an older LG CD-RW as Secondary Slave. They were jumpered as M and S - no CS. The BIOS had no problems identifying them during POST, but Win2K/SP4 hung at the part where it is doing PnP - just before it flashes the KB lights. Win2K can handle either unit alone with no problems. It's when they are both present that Win2K can't deal with it. What is going on? -- Greatest Movie Line Ever http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/MovieLine.wmv "Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law,' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual." -- Thomas Jefferson |
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On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 20:39:57 GMT, "Alceryes"
wrote: Win2K can handle either unit alone with no problems. It's when they are both present that Win2K can't deal with it. Try jumpering both in the CS position. What good will that do? Teh BIOS already recognizes them correctly. Wn2K doesn't know about jumpers. You could also try going into device manager and 'uninstalling' whatever drive is currently connected, turn the system off, put both drives in and turn the system back on. I thought of that but hesitated because I can find no good reason why it should make any difference, unless Win2K can't deal with 2 optical drives to begin with. -- Greatest Movie Line Ever http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/MovieLine.wmv "Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law,' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual." -- Thomas Jefferson |
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Bob....I have a dual boot machine, WinXP and Win 2000. My set up is two
hd's on the same cable (0) and 1 cd and 1 dvd on the other cable (1). both work in either OS without any problems. In both cases, I use master and slave jumpers. MIke. "Bob" wrote in message ... On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 20:39:57 GMT, "Alceryes" wrote: Win2K can handle either unit alone with no problems. It's when they are both present that Win2K can't deal with it. Try jumpering both in the CS position. What good will that do? Teh BIOS already recognizes them correctly. Wn2K doesn't know about jumpers. You could also try going into device manager and 'uninstalling' whatever drive is currently connected, turn the system off, put both drives in and turn the system back on. I thought of that but hesitated because I can find no good reason why it should make any difference, unless Win2K can't deal with 2 optical drives to begin with. -- Greatest Movie Line Ever http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/MovieLine.wmv "Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law,' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual." -- Thomas Jefferson |
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You have to try what works for your setup. I've had some DVD's that insist
on being the master on a cable & also had it where I've had to put one HD & one CD/DVD on each cable. You just need to try every alternative that works for you. It is more dependent on the make of drive than XP or bios. "Bob" wrote in message ... I put my NEC 3540 as Secondary Master and an older LG CD-RW as Secondary Slave. They were jumpered as M and S - no CS. The BIOS had no problems identifying them during POST, but Win2K/SP4 hung at the part where it is doing PnP - just before it flashes the KB lights. Win2K can handle either unit alone with no problems. It's when they are both present that Win2K can't deal with it. What is going on? -- Greatest Movie Line Ever http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/MovieLine.wmv "Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law,' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual." -- Thomas Jefferson |
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On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 16:06:23 +0930, "BruceM"
wrote: You have to try what works for your setup. I've had some DVD's that insist on being the master on a cable & also had it where I've had to put one HD & one CD/DVD on each cable. You just need to try every alternative that works for you. It is more dependent on the make of drive than XP or bios. I decided to leave the CD-RW in the bay, since I have no need for the bay anyway but leave it unconnected until I need it. I can then unconnect the DVD-RW. The only time I ran into a problem was when I did an In-Place Upgrade, which is so infrequent that fooling with 2 optical drives is not worth it. You are right about optical drives liking to be master. I had problems with my NEC 3540 when it was slave and now that it's master, I have no more problems. -- Greatest Movie Line Ever http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/MovieLine.wmv "Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law,' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual." -- Thomas Jefferson |
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On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 12:18:19 GMT, kony wrote:
We don't have to know why nor expect it to work, As a scientist, I have to know. That is my profession - to know why things work the way they do. A computer is a state machine, so there is always a clearly defined reason for why it behaves in a particular way. sometimes bugs are pleasantly resolved because the buggy state was one that "should've" worked, but changing to yet another state You might check on a motherboard bios update, Why? The BIOS recognizes the two drives. It's Win2K that has the problem. and if you don't have the master drive on the end of the cable, try that too. I moved it there recently when it acted flaky in the other position. I like cable select though, always use it unless it doesn't work right (which is becoming rarer and rarer with modern system drives). I have the drives jumpered for master and slave. The BIOS recognizes them in their proper position so that is no an issue. The issue is a driver conflict in Windows. The suggestion to remove all optical drivers and start fresh is a good possibility, although I am not going to pursue this matter any further because it's not worth it. On the rare occasion I must implement the CD-RW, I will connect it. It's still in the case so all I have to do is sway a couple cables. For a mature product, Win2K/SP4 sure has a lot of bugs remaining. Maybe it's the NEC 3540 and SP4 has not caught up with it. -- Greatest Movie Line Ever http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/MovieLine.wmv "Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law,' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual." -- Thomas Jefferson |
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Bob wrote:
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 12:18:19 GMT, kony wrote: We don't have to know why nor expect it to work, As a scientist, I have to know. That is my profession - to know why things work the way they do. A computer is a state machine, so there is always a clearly defined reason for why it behaves in a particular way. I agree! With Windows, I often find that I know much more than I understand! One advantage of open source systems like Linux: One can examine the "innards" and have a chance of figuring out what's going on. Route to understanding: Knowledge--easy to find, especially with the Internet data-base. Learning--need to know basic rules of science and how to use them. Experience--let's hope we live long enough to get this. -- Virg Wall, P.E., K6EVE, Retired Rocket Scientist |
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