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Old July 21st 07, 10:42 AM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
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Michael Dell,

Why are no Inspirons or Dimension son the EPA Energy Star-rated list?

Robert


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Old July 21st 07, 12:01 PM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
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Because consumers are too stupid to pay a little more upfront for the
savings benefit. They shop purely on price.

If energy star costs Dell another $20 per machine, they'll lose the
price wars to competitors that don't do it.

That's why the Latitude Optiplex and Precision lines, targeted at
business, are energy star rated.

Tom

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Posted At: Saturday, July 21, 2007 5:42 AM
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Michael Dell,

Why are no Inspirons or Dimension son the EPA Energy Star-rated list?

Robert



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Old July 22nd 07, 02:21 PM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
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what extra does the energy star PC have?


"Tom Scales" wrote in message
news:C332299E47AF4FE1BF89DDEBC247F4AA@M2010...
Because consumers are too stupid to pay a little more upfront for the
savings benefit. They shop purely on price.

If energy star costs Dell another $20 per machine, they'll lose the
price wars to competitors that don't do it.

That's why the Latitude Optiplex and Precision lines, targeted at
business, are energy star rated.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: Nospam ]
Posted At: Saturday, July 21, 2007 5:42 AM
Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
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Subject: EPA Energy Star Rating

Michael Dell,

Why are no Inspirons or Dimension son the EPA Energy Star-rated list?

Robert





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Old July 22nd 07, 02:42 PM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
Tom Scales
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Default EPA Energy Star Rating

From what I have read, the quality and cost of the components is higher.
More efficient power supplies, etc.

Could be that Dell just realizes that consumers don't care.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: Keith ]
Posted At: Sunday, July 22, 2007 9:22 AM
Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
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Subject: EPA Energy Star Rating

what extra does the energy star PC have?


"Tom Scales" wrote in message
news:C332299E47AF4FE1BF89DDEBC247F4AA@M2010...
Because consumers are too stupid to pay a little more upfront for

the
savings benefit. They shop purely on price.

If energy star costs Dell another $20 per machine, they'll lose the
price wars to competitors that don't do it.

That's why the Latitude Optiplex and Precision lines, targeted at
business, are energy star rated.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: Nospam ]
Posted At: Saturday, July 21, 2007 5:42 AM
Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
Conversation: EPA Energy Star Rating
Subject: EPA Energy Star Rating

Michael Dell,

Why are no Inspirons or Dimension son the EPA Energy Star-rated

list?

Robert





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Old July 22nd 07, 03:01 PM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
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Selling price ALWAYS enters into the equation for computers aimed at the vast
unwashed cosumers... Ben Myers

On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 09:42:16 -0400, "Tom Scales" wrote:

From what I have read, the quality and cost of the components is higher.
More efficient power supplies, etc.

Could be that Dell just realizes that consumers don't care.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: Keith ]
Posted At: Sunday, July 22, 2007 9:22 AM
Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
Conversation: EPA Energy Star Rating
Subject: EPA Energy Star Rating

what extra does the energy star PC have?


"Tom Scales" wrote in message
news:C332299E47AF4FE1BF89DDEBC247F4AA@M2010...
Because consumers are too stupid to pay a little more upfront for

the
savings benefit. They shop purely on price.

If energy star costs Dell another $20 per machine, they'll lose the
price wars to competitors that don't do it.

That's why the Latitude Optiplex and Precision lines, targeted at
business, are energy star rated.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: Nospam ]
Posted At: Saturday, July 21, 2007 5:42 AM
Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
Conversation: EPA Energy Star Rating
Subject: EPA Energy Star Rating

Michael Dell,

Why are no Inspirons or Dimension son the EPA Energy Star-rated

list?

Robert



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Old July 22nd 07, 06:56 PM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
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"Keith" wrote in message . ..
what extra does the energy star PC have?


FWIW, here is a criteria document:

http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?...crit_computers

Here is a more detailed spec:

http://www.energystar.gov/ia/partner...Spec_Final.pdf

Version 4.0 of the spec, which tightened some requirements, was
published on October 23, 2006 and went into effect on July 20, 2007.

Here is the 07/20/2007 Energy Star Qualified Products list:

http://www.energystar.gov/ia/product..._prod_list.xls

FWIW, there are three Dell systems on that list... all Optiplex 745
configs.
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Old July 23rd 07, 09:22 PM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
Barry Watzman
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It's not what it has, but what it does. The energy star rating means
that the device consumes some level of energy (the maximum allowed for
the rating on the class of device in question) OR LESS. How this is
accomplished is irrelevant.


Keith wrote:
what extra does the energy star PC have?


"Tom Scales" wrote in message
news:C332299E47AF4FE1BF89DDEBC247F4AA@M2010...
Because consumers are too stupid to pay a little more upfront for the
savings benefit. They shop purely on price.

If energy star costs Dell another $20 per machine, they'll lose the
price wars to competitors that don't do it.

That's why the Latitude Optiplex and Precision lines, targeted at
business, are energy star rated.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: Nospam ]
Posted At: Saturday, July 21, 2007 5:42 AM
Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
Conversation: EPA Energy Star Rating
Subject: EPA Energy Star Rating

Michael Dell,

Why are no Inspirons or Dimension son the EPA Energy Star-rated list?

Robert




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Old July 23rd 07, 09:33 PM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:22:56 -0400, Barry Watzman
wrote:

It's not what it has, but what it does. The energy star rating means
that the device consumes some level of energy (the maximum allowed for
the rating on the class of device in question) OR LESS. How this is
accomplished is irrelevant.



If this helps any.....
http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?...up&pgw_code=CO
 




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