Windows Update and Patch Tuesday

Since yesterday was Patch Tuesday, I fired up Firefox with the Windows
Update plug-in and got the 5 updates. Way cool! Unlike IE, Firefox
allowed me to browse in multiple windows while the update ran.

If you like using Firefox 99.999% of the time, here is where to get the
plug-in:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/195

.... Ben Myers

Ben Myers, did transcribed the following::
Since yesterday was Patch Tuesday, I fired up Firefox with the Windows
Update plug-in and got the 5 updates. Way cool! Unlike IE, Firefox
allowed me to browse in multiple windows while the update ran.

If you like using Firefox 99.999% of the time, here is where to get
the plug-in:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/195

... Ben Myers
Ben, Nothing cool about this! I applied the plug-in and tried it out.
This is what I received:

*Thank you for your interest in obtaining updates from our site. *

To use this site, you must be running Microsoft Internet Explorer 5 or
later.

To upgrade to the latest version of the browser, go to the Internet
Explorer Downloads http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkID=24748 website.

If you prefer to use a different web browser, you can obtain updates
from the Microsoft Download Center
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=10678 or you can stay up to
date with the latest critical and security updates by using Automatic
Updates. To turn on Automatic Updates:

1. Click *Start*, click *Control Panel*, and then click *Security*.
2. Click *Security Center*, and then make sure Automatic updating is
turned on.


To enhance the security and performance of your computer, make sure
Windows automatic updating is not turned off.

JDa^(TM)© wrote:
Ben Myers, did transcribed the following::
Since yesterday was Patch Tuesday, I fired up Firefox with the Windows
Update plug-in and got the 5 updates. Way cool! Unlike IE, Firefox
allowed me to browse in multiple windows while the update ran.

If you like using Firefox 99.999% of the time, here is where to get
the plug-in:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/195

... Ben Myers
Ben, Nothing cool about this! I applied the plug-in and tried it out.
This is what I received:

*Thank you for your interest in obtaining updates from our site. *

To use this site, you must be running Microsoft Internet Explorer 5 or
later.

To upgrade to the latest version of the browser, go to the Internet
Explorer Downloads http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkID=24748 website.

If you prefer to use a different web browser, you can obtain updates
from the Microsoft Download Center
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=10678 or you can stay up to
date with the latest critical and security updates by using Automatic
Updates. To turn on Automatic Updates:

1. Click *Start*, click *Control Panel*, and then click *Security*.
2. Click *Security Center*, and then make sure Automatic updating is
turned on.


To enhance the security and performance of your computer, make sure
Windows automatic updating is not turned off.

Works perfectly for me with Firefox 3.5.2. Don't know why it did not
work for you. The response you got implies that the plugin is not
installed. You have to restart Firefox after installing many plugins,
just to be sure.

And I'll be damned if I'll turn on Automatic Updating to poll for
updates on every reboot (making the reboot time longer) for a once a
month update. I can remember only one Windows update in the past 3
years or so that was provided on a day other than Patch Tuesday.

Same thing with "Dell Updates", "HP Updates", "Lenovo Updates", "Acrobat
Updates", "Java Updates". When was the last time HP provided ANYONE
with a useful update? All these stupid automatic updates simply make it
take longer and longer to boot a system... Ben Myers

Hi!

Works perfectly for me with Firefox 3.5.2. *Don't know why it did not
work for you. *The response you got implies that the plugin is not
installed. *You have to restart Firefox after installing many plugins,
just to be sure.

Indeed, it seemed to work OK here on a testing basis.

I don't think that I'll leave it in place, though. It's not like I
can't use the strategically placed Windows Update icon on the Start
Menu to get there during the few times I want to. (The icon, if you
use it, is smart enough to launch Windows Update with IE whether it is
your default browser or not.)

I'm not willing to take the chance on forcing Windows Update to
function in a way that is probably less than totally supported.

And I'll be damned if I'll turn on Automatic Updating to poll for
updates on every reboot (making the reboot time longer) for a once
a month update.

If you remember to do it, that's fine. I know I wouldn't. :-)

I'm not willing to turn it on wholesale, so it just notifies me of
updates. (This is another "war" entirely--my computers will reboot
when I want them to, *if* I want them to. Nothing tees me off quite as
well as finding that a machine is sitting there looking intelligent at
the login window, with all of my VMware sessions and other stuff
gone.)

The Automatic Updates service is probably going to be running anyway.
(Microsoft has been in some hot water for Automatic Updates updating
itself even when supposedly turned off.)

Same thing with "Dell Updates", "HP Updates", "Lenovo Updates",
"Acrobat Updates", "Java Updates". *

Those manufacturer supplied updater tools are just another reason why
a clean install of the OS is almost invariably the first thing I do
after setting up a computer.

Acrobat updates really should be installed if you use it, as the
majority of them are security related. I suppose you could use
something like Foxit Reader instead, but I didn't really see a reason
to switch.

When was the last time HP provided ANYONE with a useful
update?

Probably never. Even today I still see some systems running the HP
BackWeb based updater tool on Windows 98. Yes, I'm sure that ten (or
eleven, for Win98FE) years later, there will updates! Uh-huh.

William

Ben Myers wrote:
JDa^(TM)© wrote:
Ben, Nothing cool about this! I applied the plug-in and tried it out.
This is what I received:

*Thank you for your interest in obtaining updates from our site. *

To use this site, you must be running Microsoft Internet Explorer 5 or
later.

(etc.)

Works perfectly for me with Firefox 3.5.2. Don't know why it did not
work for you. The response you got implies that the plugin is not
installed. You have to restart Firefox after installing many plugins,
just to be sure.

And I'll be damned if I'll turn on Automatic Updating to poll for
updates on every reboot (making the reboot time longer) for a once a
month update. I can remember only one Windows update in the past 3
years or so that was provided on a day other than Patch Tuesday.

Same thing with "Dell Updates", "HP Updates", "Lenovo Updates", "Acrobat
Updates", "Java Updates". When was the last time HP provided ANYONE
with a useful update? All these stupid automatic updates simply make it
take longer and longer to boot a system... Ben Myers

I have not used this add-on, but the description says that it works by
launching Internet Explorer to the Windows Update site. Perhaps there
is a problem with JDa's IE.

Ben Myers, did transcribed the following::
JDa^(TM)© wrote:
Ben Myers, did transcribed the following::
Since yesterday was Patch Tuesday, I fired up Firefox with the Windows
Update plug-in and got the 5 updates. Way cool! Unlike IE, Firefox
allowed me to browse in multiple windows while the update ran.

If you like using Firefox 99.999% of the time, here is where to get
the plug-in:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/195

... Ben Myers
Ben, Nothing cool about this! I applied the plug-in and tried it
out. This is what I received:

*Thank you for your interest in obtaining updates from our site. *

To use this site, you must be running Microsoft Internet Explorer 5 or
later.

To upgrade to the latest version of the browser, go to the Internet
Explorer Downloads http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkID=24748
website.

If you prefer to use a different web browser, you can obtain updates
from the Microsoft Download Center
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=10678 or you can stay up to
date with the latest critical and security updates by using Automatic
Updates. To turn on Automatic Updates:

1. Click *Start*, click *Control Panel*, and then click *Security*.
2. Click *Security Center*, and then make sure Automatic updating is
turned on.


To enhance the security and performance of your computer, make sure
Windows automatic updating is not turned off.

Works perfectly for me with Firefox 3.5.2. Don't know why it did not
work for you. The response you got implies that the plugin is not
installed. You have to restart Firefox after installing many plugins,
just to be sure.
Yes I did restart Firefox two(2) times just to see. But no go..


And I'll be damned if I'll turn on Automatic Updating to poll for
updates on every reboot (making the reboot time longer) for a once a
month update. I can remember only one Windows update in the past 3
years or so that was provided on a day other than Patch Tuesday.

Me neither, but I do let it notify me when there is an update
available. The *ONLY* auto update I do is Nortons.

.. Ben Myers

Bill Ghrist, did transcribed the following::
Ben Myers wrote:
JDa^(TM)© wrote:
Ben, Nothing cool about this! I applied the plug-in and tried it
out. This is what I received:

*Thank you for your interest in obtaining updates from our site. *

To use this site, you must be running Microsoft Internet Explorer 5 or
later.

(etc.)

Works perfectly for me with Firefox 3.5.2. Don't know why it did not
work for you. The response you got implies that the plugin is not
installed. You have to restart Firefox after installing many
plugins, just to be sure.

And I'll be damned if I'll turn on Automatic Updating to poll for
updates on every reboot (making the reboot time longer) for a once a
month update. I can remember only one Windows update in the past 3
years or so that was provided on a day other than Patch Tuesday.

Same thing with "Dell Updates", "HP Updates", "Lenovo Updates",
"Acrobat Updates", "Java Updates". When was the last time HP
provided ANYONE with a useful update? All these stupid automatic
updates simply make it take longer and longer to boot a system... Ben
Myers

I have not used this add-on, but the description says that it works by
launching Internet Explorer to the Windows Update site. Perhaps there
is a problem with JDa's IE.

Maybe not a direct problem. I think(there could be the problem) it
opens the default internet browser, and mine is Firefox.

Maybe not a direct problem. I think(there could be the problem) it
opens the default internet browser, and mine is Firefox.


Are you saying that you:
1. Installed the "Windows Update" add-on for Firefox
2. Initialized it by clicking "tools" then "Windows Update" in the drop down
menu.

.....& it launched a separate IE window?

That has never happened to me. Firefox just switches the rendering engine on
the current tab to IE & runs Windows Update in that tab only.

Rich wrote:


Maybe not a direct problem. I think(there could be the problem) it
opens the default internet browser, and mine is Firefox.


Are you saying that you:
1. Installed the "Windows Update" add-on for Firefox
2. Initialized it by clicking "tools" then "Windows Update" in the drop
down menu.

....& it launched a separate IE window?

That has never happened to me. Firefox just switches the rendering
engine on the current tab to IE & runs Windows Update in that tab only.

I'll have to wait until next month to observe more exactly what
happened. Still, whatever it did, I like the convenience of doing a
Windows update via Firefox... Ben Myers

"Ben Myers" wrote in message
...

I'll have to wait until next month to observe more exactly what happened.
Still, whatever it did, I like the convenience of doing a Windows update
via Firefox... Ben Myers



Sorry for the confusion Ben, but I was replying to this reply to your
original post by JDa^T:



"Nothing cool about this! I applied the plug-in and tried it out.
This is what I received:

*Thank you for your interest in obtaining updates from our site. *

To use this site, you must be running Microsoft Internet Explorer 5 or
later."

I was actually reinforcing your experience with the ease & convenience of
this add-on & asking JDa^T exactly
if & how he installed the add-on.

Rich