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Kony
I found some cab files that look like what you have told me. Before I reinstall Winme what do you think of me putting the hard drive from the computer that's not working right in my 586 which has a working CD Drive and copying all the files from the Mother Board Drivers disk that came with the new mother board and then swap it back and try to install all the mother board drivers that way? I did find another way to change the video driver but everyone I try the monitor goes blank and I have to reboot. Could this mean my video card is bad? Thanks. Bill kony wrote in message ... On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 19:14:07 GMT, "Bill" wrote: Hi Kony I forgot to tell you what my power supply is. I have an ANTEC 350 watt ATX12V. I have an ATA card that came with the 160 ghz hard drive installed. Both hard drives work. I will do some searches using google and MS and also the links you gave. After my 1ghz computer went bad I had to go back to my old 586 and it's so slow it drives me crazy. Is there a site that explains the Register in detail? Thanks for the help and suggestions. Bill Try attaching the hard drive to the motherboard's IDE, providing it's not a RAID 0 array. I don't know of any sites that explain the registry in detail, at least not to the extent you'd need. Did you ever figure out to what extent the WinME installation files were on your hard drive? The majority of those files are named by the scheme "Win_nn.CAB", with "nn" being a single or double digit number, plus a few "DRIVERn.CAB" files, assorted other *.CAB files, a few *.INF, *.TXT, and a "SETUP.EXE" or "OEMSETUP.EXE", plus misc. other files. If you have all the needed files you can dump them into a folder (if not onto CDR since your optical drive(s) aren't working) and try reinstalling WinME overtop of itself (into the same folder) from DOS. |
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On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 03:18:07 GMT, "Bill"
wrote: Kony I found some cab files that look like what you have told me. Before I reinstall Winme The issue wasn't that there were some, but if they were ALL there... having cabs isn't enough to reinstall without the other installation files, which would probably be in same folder if there at all. what do you think of me putting the hard drive from the computer that's not working right in my 586 which has a working CD Drive and copying all the files from the Mother Board Drivers disk that came with the new mother board and then swap it back and try to install all the mother board drivers that way? Offhand it sounds like a good idea except that I doubt the 586 box can support the hard drive capacity. This is winme so the hard drive has fat32 filesystem, you can boot to dos with a boot floppy, one with cdrom support, and copy the files to HDD. It's a bit more tedious but you don't really need all drivers on the hard drive, perhaps mainly the motherboard chipset driver and a network card driver (if applicable), and/or a USB thumbdrive driver if you have a flash memory thumbdrive, though if the only other system is a 586 I suppose you don't have a way to get the files on the thumbdrive in the first place. I did find another way to change the video driver but everyone I try the monitor goes blank and I have to reboot. Could this mean my video card is bad? Thanks. Bill You'd have to reboot anyway but not from a blank screen. I doubt that the video card has any problems, it was working fine before you started changing over the system, right? Main problem still seems to be a windows instability, that crashing during the Add Hardware Wizard, and I'm about out of ideas on how to resolve that, particularly without the system in front of me (a lot of this type of thing seems to get done almost subconscously here, it's easier to do the troubleshooting than to describe a process without the system in front of me for inspiration). I'm about out of ideas though, which was why I mentioned checking for presence of the WinME setup files for a reinstall (into same folder windows is currently installed in when the setup program prompts). |
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Sorry Kony sometimes I have to read posts several times to understand. It's
not you it's me. I found in c:\windows\options\cabs the following. win_9.cab thru win_22.cab and win_ol.cab, driver5.cab thru driver7.cab, msbatch.inf, oem_set.inf, pcmica.inf, subase.inf, setup.txt, setup.exe and pchsetup.exe. So I guess they are all there. Now exactly how do I reinstall WinME over top of, or clean? Bill kony wrote in message news On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 03:18:07 GMT, "Bill" wrote: Kony I found some cab files that look like what you have told me. Before I reinstall Winme The issue wasn't that there were some, but if they were ALL there... having cabs isn't enough to reinstall without the other installation files, which would probably be in same folder if there at all. what do you think of me putting the hard drive from the computer that's not working right in my 586 which has a working CD Drive and copying all the files from the Mother Board Drivers disk that came with the new mother board and then swap it back and try to install all the mother board drivers that way? Offhand it sounds like a good idea except that I doubt the 586 box can support the hard drive capacity. This is winme so the hard drive has fat32 filesystem, you can boot to dos with a boot floppy, one with cdrom support, and copy the files to HDD. It's a bit more tedious but you don't really need all drivers on the hard drive, perhaps mainly the motherboard chipset driver and a network card driver (if applicable), and/or a USB thumbdrive driver if you have a flash memory thumbdrive, though if the only other system is a 586 I suppose you don't have a way to get the files on the thumbdrive in the first place. I did find another way to change the video driver but everyone I try the monitor goes blank and I have to reboot. Could this mean my video card is bad? Thanks. Bill You'd have to reboot anyway but not from a blank screen. I doubt that the video card has any problems, it was working fine before you started changing over the system, right? Main problem still seems to be a windows instability, that crashing during the Add Hardware Wizard, and I'm about out of ideas on how to resolve that, particularly without the system in front of me (a lot of this type of thing seems to get done almost subconscously here, it's easier to do the troubleshooting than to describe a process without the system in front of me for inspiration). I'm about out of ideas though, which was why I mentioned checking for presence of the WinME setup files for a reinstall (into same folder windows is currently installed in when the setup program prompts). |
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Bill wrote:
Sorry Kony sometimes I have to read posts several times to understand. It's not you it's me. I found in c:\windows\options\cabs the following. win_9.cab thru win_22.cab and win_ol.cab, driver5.cab thru driver7.cab, msbatch.inf, oem_set.inf, pcmica.inf, subase.inf, setup.txt, setup.exe and pchsetup.exe. So I guess they are all there. Now exactly how do I reinstall WinME over top of, or clean? Don't top-post please. I suspect you have found some of the original files from W95, not WinME. Check their dates, or the dates of the embedded files. For example, here is the .cab file list for W98 FE c:\ls -w65 \orig\win98\*.cab /orig/win98/base4.cab /orig/win98/win98_35.cab /orig/win98/base5.cab /orig/win98/win98_36.cab /orig/win98/base6.cab /orig/win98/win98_37.cab /orig/win98/catalog3.cab /orig/win98/win98_38.cab /orig/win98/chl99.cab /orig/win98/win98_39.cab /orig/win98/driver11.cab /orig/win98/win98_40.cab /orig/win98/driver12.cab /orig/win98/win98_41.cab /orig/win98/driver13.cab /orig/win98/win98_42.cab /orig/win98/driver14.cab /orig/win98/win98_43.cab /orig/win98/driver15.cab /orig/win98/win98_44.cab /orig/win98/driver16.cab /orig/win98/win98_45.cab /orig/win98/driver17.cab /orig/win98/win98_46.cab /orig/win98/driver18.cab /orig/win98/win98_47.cab /orig/win98/driver19.cab /orig/win98/win98_48.cab /orig/win98/driver20.cab /orig/win98/win98_49.cab /orig/win98/driver21.cab /orig/win98/win98_50.cab /orig/win98/mini.cab /orig/win98/win98_51.cab /orig/win98/net10.cab /orig/win98/win98_52.cab /orig/win98/net7.cab /orig/win98/win98_53.cab /orig/win98/net8.cab /orig/win98/win98_54.cab /orig/win98/net9.cab /orig/win98/win98_55.cab /orig/win98/precopy1.cab /orig/win98/win98_56.cab /orig/win98/precopy2.cab /orig/win98/win98_57.cab /orig/win98/win98_22.cab /orig/win98/win98_58.cab /orig/win98/win98_23.cab /orig/win98/win98_59.cab /orig/win98/win98_24.cab /orig/win98/win98_60.cab /orig/win98/win98_25.cab /orig/win98/win98_61.cab /orig/win98/win98_26.cab /orig/win98/win98_62.cab /orig/win98/win98_27.cab /orig/win98/win98_63.cab /orig/win98/win98_28.cab /orig/win98/win98_64.cab /orig/win98/win98_29.cab /orig/win98/win98_65.cab /orig/win98/win98_30.cab /orig/win98/win98_66.cab /orig/win98/win98_31.cab /orig/win98/win98_67.cab /orig/win98/win98_32.cab /orig/win98/win98_68.cab /orig/win98/win98_33.cab /orig/win98/win98_69.cab /orig/win98/win98_34.cab -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? |
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On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 19:45:08 GMT, "Bill"
wrote: Sorry Kony sometimes I have to read posts several times to understand. It's not you it's me. I found in c:\windows\options\cabs the following. win_9.cab thru win_22.cab and win_ol.cab, driver5.cab thru driver7.cab, msbatch.inf, oem_set.inf, pcmica.inf, subase.inf, setup.txt, setup.exe and pchsetup.exe. So I guess they are all there. Now exactly how do I reinstall WinME over top of, or clean? If you have another drive or partition with sufficient free space, the first thing i'd do is copy those files into a folder named "win9x", as the original folder containing those files (on a WinME installation CD) would be named. Later on, when system is working again, you might want to also put that folder on a CDR, one made bootable with EasyCD or Nero (or whichever burning app came with a CDRW drive) using the WinME boot disk I linked to below for the boot image, or perhaps a Google search might find an even better boot image for a WinME bootable CDR. That way you have a method of installing the OS clean in the future without having to be concerned about whether you have the files... though it's good to make more than one copy if you need rely on that backup and with CDRs somewhat volatile as they age. You may (likely) need the License Key, which might be a sticker affixed to the bezel (perhaps behind a door or bay cover) or on the rear of the unit. Be sure you have that before proceeding with an (re) installation. 1st try should be reinstalling ME overtop of itself, that is, just running the setup program from Windows (IF it will run), then specifying to install to the same folder as previously used. If it won't run from within Windows then boot to a DOS floppy and run from command line. For example if the files were copied to a D: drive or partition the command line would be (using the copied-over, newly created folder name I suggested above): D:\win9x\setup.exe That is if I remember correctly that it's still "setup.exe" for your situation. If that doesn't work then replace "setup.exe" above with "oemsetup.exe". Prior to doing that you might want to make a backup of the partition, if possible. At the very least you ought to backup the registry, which can be done by copying the "user.dat" and "system.dat" files to somewhere, anywhere other than the windows folder, or if you ended up wanting to do a clean install after formatting the partition, then of course back them up to a different partition. Since there's the possiblity of wanting or needing to do a clean install you might want to have more than just a DOS boot disk as I mentioned above, rather a Win98SE or WinME boot disk, or whatever you can find that also has format.com on it. There are a number of boot disks at http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm |
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On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 21:00:04 GMT, CBFalconer wrote:
snip I suspect you have found some of the original files from W95, not WinME. Check their dates, or the dates of the embedded files. For example, here is the .cab file list for W98 FE c:\ls -w65 \orig\win98\*.cab /orig/win98/base4.cab /orig/win98/win98_35.cab ... /orig/win98/driver11.cab /orig/win98/win98_40.cab ... /orig/win98/win98_22.cab /orig/win98/win98_58.cab For the most part the WinME files do look quite similar to those of Win98, though the core system files in Win98 have names like "Win98_22.cab" while in WinME the're lower numbers and without the "98", like "Win_15.cab" |
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