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Shopping for DDR2 Memory
SRW wrote: Crucial has a 2GB DDR2 kit(Two 1GB PC2-5300 DIMMs) for $25.99 plus $3.99 shipping, for a total of $29.98: http://www.crucial.com/store/mpartsp...C795F8A5CA7304 Newegg has, what appears to be, the same Crucial 2GB DDR2 kit for $17.99 with free shipping, for a total of $17.99. http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16820146526 Is there a catch; why is the same(?) kit so much cheaper at Newegg? Distributors don't like to compete against their retailers because that tends to make retailers drop them in retaliation. I bought some of those modules for about $5 more, and I don't know of anybody getting duds. Oddly, most were made by Samsung: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3486/...fd71cafb_b.jpg |
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On Jan 13, 1:53 am, kony wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 05:27:05 GMT, John Doe wrote: kony wrote: Crucial does not adjust their 'site prices as timely as Newegg How about 4GB of Crucial memory for $20 AR instead? Rebate expires in 3 days though, better order now Speaking of Newegg and rebates, if you really want to learn about rebates. Find a product with a rebate. List 100 reviews per page. Search the pages for "rebate". Every time you see a positive comment about a rebate, notice that the silly poster has owned the item for less than one month and obviously has not actually received the rebate. Notice that everyone who mentions the rebate and has owned the product long enough to have received one has a negative opinion about the thing. Besides trying hard to avoid honoring a rebate, the most likely reason for offering a rebate is to prevent returns. On average, I've saved over 40% using rebates. If you don't want any part of that, great, it means others have a better opportunity. I have received Crucial rebates, am confident enough to try it again... and have. Pay more if you like, but it's worked well for me and others on average. They work, true, but it's with the stipulation, on average, you need be ready to tear into some butt;-- if you haven't had to, yet, Fat City's mayor handed you the key to the city, and you're charmed. Or, you're just pushing your luck. It can be discouraging, and I've mixed feelings after having torn into more than a few of rebaters, many of whom come out of Arizona. Perhaps encouraging, although I wouldn't know other than to suspect, are present laws that may favor a more prosummer approach to falsehoods regarding rebate dealings. In any event, even after rebaters have tried to bamboozle me with tricky second qualifications, supposedly, I didn't follow -- such as longhand printing, faxes, copies, and multiple re-submittals, etc. -- which, at this juncture, I simply won't stand for;-- A threat of contacting legal recourses makes my intent perfectly clear -- on average, and that the problem is, that they're dragging their butts. Another thing, depending on the material source, is to calling store manager, corporate offices, or even an actual stores' respective rebate services, should that dept. exist. Add them up, mix in a cup of patience, some tolerance for stacks of rebate paperwork trails, don't forget not to set the temperature too high;- and last, when pulling out systems built on rebates, don't be surprised should some occasionally look like it. |
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Shopping for DDR2 Memory
"John Doe" wrote:
You might have had a better opportunity only if I bought the thing and didn't apply for a rebate, or if I bought the item and didn't feel like messing with the rebate issuer when they denied the application or they just never sent the rebate. But I usually skip to the next product whenever I see a mail-in rebate offer, giving the item no further consideration. That method saves lots of time and hassle in the long run. What hassle? You fill out a form, cut off a UPC code, and stuff an envelope. Takes maybe, oh, a minute. Maybe two if you take your time and scan the whole mess before it's sent. Jon |
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John Doe wrote:
Speaking of Newegg and rebates, if you really want to learn about rebates. Find a product with a rebate. List 100 reviews per page. Search the pages for "rebate". Every time you see a positive comment about a rebate, notice that the silly poster has owned the item for less than one month and obviously has not actually received the rebate. Notice that everyone who mentions the rebate and has owned the product long enough to have received one has a negative opinion about the thing. I just looked at crucial memory with a rebate on Newegg, as advised above. The results are precisely the same as I said they would be. Apparently your review isn't one of them, Kony. Owned for less than one week: Pros: Not expensive, especially after the rebate. Cons: One of the two banks failed within a week. Can't return it to newegg since I already sent in the rebate form. I'll probably send it back directly to Crucial. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...ywords)&Page=2 I didn't find an obvious relationship between negative reviews and length of ownership. Here are the reviews of the 50 or 100 customers (out of 265, total) who claimed to have had this product the longest: http://tinyurl.com/9hqmeg http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...ords%29&Page=1 50 oldest 100 oldest all 5 eggs: 84% 81% 84% 4 eggs: 14% 15% 10% 3 eggs: 0% 1% 2% 2 eggs: 0% 1% 1% 1 egg: 2% 2% 3% Are the differences among the groups significant? OTOH I wouldn't trust reviews of RAM, especially not the positive reviews, because very few customers test their RAM thoroughly. |
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"larry moe 'n curly" wrote:
John Doe wrote: Speaking of Newegg and rebates, if you really want to learn about rebates. Find a product with a rebate. List 100 reviews per page. Search the pages for "rebate". Every time you see a positive comment about a rebate, notice that the silly poster has owned the item for less than one month and obviously has not actually received the rebate. Notice that everyone who mentions the rebate and has owned the product long enough to have received one has a negative opinion about the thing. I just looked at crucial memory with a rebate on Newegg, as advised above. The results are precisely the same as I said they would be. Apparently your review isn't one of them, Kony. Owned for less than one week: Pros: Not expensive, especially after the rebate. Cons: One of the two banks failed within a week. Can't return it to newegg since I already sent in the rebate form. I'll probably send it back directly to Crucial. I didn't find an obvious relationship between negative reviews and length of ownership. I'm talking about rebates. |
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"Jon Danniken" wrote:
"John Doe" wrote: You might have had a better opportunity only if I bought the thing and didn't apply for a rebate, or if I bought the item and didn't feel like messing with the rebate issuer when they denied the application or they just never sent the rebate. But I usually skip to the next product whenever I see a mail-in rebate offer, giving the item no further consideration. That method saves lots of time and hassle in the long run. What hassle? The problems many people have with rebates. Newegg Home All Reviews Filter Results: rebate desktop memory sort by ownership length 100 per page newegg purchasers The following negative experiences with rebates are from less than half of one page out of 40 pages, all owned the memory for over one year. "I did everything they asked and then they denied my rebate, simply saying I was not eligible" "sent out the rebate the day I got the ram following all the proper procedures, never heard back" "I never received my rebate" "Only got one of my rebates, even after contacting them" "Have been waiting over 3 months for my rebate" "This is awesome, do not have to deal with lengthy rebate bullcrap just to be turned down and frustrated" "Never sent me the rebate" "I was denied on the rebates" "still waiting for the mail-in-rebate which i turned in over 4 months ago" "I've sworn off many-a ram manufacturer because of rebate issues" "did all the right things... Online verification showed that I was being sent a check. Never came" "In each case they said the paper work was sent in to late. This was not the case" "I was scammed here" You fill out a form, cut off a UPC code, and stuff an envelope. Meaning you can no longer return the product. I think that's the main reason for offering a rebate, to prevent returns (with exceptions). Takes maybe, oh, a minute. Maybe two if you take your time and scan the whole mess before it's sent. The rebate agreement explicitly states that it's their sole discretion to accept or deny your rebate application. They can easily say your application was lost in the mail. They can easily say you did not include everything required. Even certified mail doesn't prove you enclosed what they require. When you buy something based on a rebate, you enter into a fool's agreement. -- Land Skis (rough terrain skates). The first rollerblades with a big front wheel and small trailing wheels, to help roll over obstacles while maintaining a low stance. http://www.flickr.com/photos/27532210@N04/3056505603 |
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John Doe wrote: "larry moe 'n curly" wrote: Speaking of Newegg and rebates, if you really want to learn about rebates. Find a product with a rebate. List 100 reviews per page. Search the pages for "rebate". Every time you see a positive comment about a rebate, notice that the silly poster has owned the item for less than one month and obviously has not actually received the rebate. Notice that everyone who mentions the rebate and has owned the product long enough to have received one has a negative opinion about the thing. I just looked at crucial memory with a rebate on Newegg, as advised above. The results are precisely the same as I said they would be. Apparently your review isn't one of them, Kony. Owned for less than one week: Pros: Not expensive, especially after the rebate. Cons: One of the two banks failed within a week. Can't return it to newegg since I already sent in the rebate form. I'll probably send it back directly to Crucial. I didn't find an obvious relationship between negative reviews and length of ownership. I'm talking about rebates. Me, too. There's usually a 15-30-day limit for submitting rebates, so reviews from people who've owned the products longest are post-rebate, and they probably show no higher incidence dissatisfaction. So where's your proof? |
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Shopping for DDR2 Memory
Van Chocstraw wrote: SRW wrote: Crucial has a 2GB DDR2 kit(Two 1GB PC2-5300 DIMMs) for $25.99 plus $3.99 shipping, for a total of $29.98: http://www.crucial.com/store/mpartsp...C795F8A5CA7304 Newegg has, what appears to be, the same Crucial 2GB DDR2 kit for $17.99 with free shipping, for a total of $17.99. http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16820146526 Is there a catch; why is the same(?) kit so much cheaper at Newegg? \ \ Could it be the difference between 'Value Grade' and 'Superior Grade'? No. Or OEM unmarked high density memory vs genuine manufacturer low density? OEM memory is more likely to be the better quality stuff because the genuine manufacturers tend to sell their best memory to them and dump their reject chips ("UnTesTed" -- UTT) onto the secondary market so lesser memory module makers can solder them to circuit boards and stick fancy heatsinks and lights on them. |
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Shopping for DDR2 Memory
"John Doe" wrote:
The rebate agreement explicitly states that it's their sole discretion to accept or deny your rebate application. They can easily say your application was lost in the mail. They can easily say you did not include everything required. Even certified mail doesn't prove you enclosed what they require. When you buy something based on a rebate, you enter into a fool's agreement. My experience is that over the last half-dozen years or so that I have submitted rebates, I have gotten most all of them back. Probably somewhere around 30 or 40 sent in, with only two or three that didn't come back. Jon |
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Shopping for DDR2 Memory
On Jan 13, 4:18 pm, "Jon Danniken"
wrote: My experience is that over the last half-dozen years or so that I have submitted rebates, I have gotten most all of them back. Probably somewhere around 30 or 40 sent in, with only two or three that didn't come back. Jon I've also gotten them from class-action settlement suits, residual results from solvency. The exact amount or what was bought from a company, I'd have forgotten. That I was still on the records, years later, was pretty amazing. |
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