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Mis-representation ?
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I bought this item on eBay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=2769544 241 on the basis of the information given which is the PCs recognise the card but will not load the drivers. I have not recieved the card yet but I`m starting to worry that I have not been given an honest auction description as it would appear to be. The most common genuine "fault" with these Creative Ti4400 cards is bad ram which is obvious from the screen corruption there is no mention of screen corruption in the auction description - so a correct representation would not mention screen corruption which it does not. However there is a possibility that the screen corruption only occurs once the drivers have loaded giving him a great reason to pretend he could not get the drivers loaded. This auction http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...tegory=27 387 clearly states the problem I`m referring too and I would not have bid on it. I have seen screen corruption on my own Ti4200 when you overclock the graphics memory too high this is only possible when the drivers are loaded obviously - maybe I will be able to clock the memory lower slowing down the card as a way around it - but I feel that if screen corruption occurs it will be obvious to me when I test it and that I have a right to feel cheated. As I say don`t actually have the item yet - whats your view ? |
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"Nick Le Lievre" wrote in message ... Hi; I bought this item on eBay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=2769544 241 on the basis of the information given which is the PCs recognise the card but will not load the drivers. I have not recieved the card yet but I`m starting to worry that I have not been given an honest auction description as it would appear to be. The most common genuine "fault" with these Creative Ti4400 cards is bad ram which is obvious from the screen corruption there is no mention of screen corruption in the auction description - so a correct representation would not mention screen corruption which it does not. However there is a possibility that the screen corruption only occurs once the drivers have loaded giving him a great reason to pretend he could not get the drivers loaded. This auction http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...tegory=27 387 clearly states the problem I`m referring too and I would not have bid on it. I have seen screen corruption on my own Ti4200 when you overclock the graphics memory too high this is only possible when the drivers are loaded obviously - maybe I will be able to clock the memory lower slowing down the card as a way around it - but I feel that if screen corruption occurs it will be obvious to me when I test it and that I have a right to feel cheated. As I say don`t actually have the item yet - whats your view ? If someone said i'm selling a faulty Ti4400 graphics card for £38 i'd laugh in their face. Goes to show you can sell bloody anything on ebay |
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"Andy" wrote in message
... "Nick Le Lievre" wrote in message ... Hi; I bought this item on eBay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=2769544 241 on the basis of the information given which is the PCs recognise the card but will not load the drivers. I have not recieved the card yet but I`m starting to worry that I have not been given an honest auction description as it would appear to be. The most common genuine "fault" with these Creative Ti4400 cards is bad ram which is obvious from the screen corruption there is no mention of screen corruption in the auction description - so a correct representation would not mention screen corruption which it does not. However there is a possibility that the screen corruption only occurs once the drivers have loaded giving him a great reason to pretend he could not get the drivers loaded. This auction http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...tegory=27 387 clearly states the problem I`m referring too and I would not have bid on it. I have seen screen corruption on my own Ti4200 when you overclock the graphics memory too high this is only possible when the drivers are loaded obviously - maybe I will be able to clock the memory lower slowing down the card as a way around it - but I feel that if screen corruption occurs it will be obvious to me when I test it and that I have a right to feel cheated. As I say don`t actually have the item yet - whats your view ? If someone said i'm selling a faulty Ti4400 graphics card for £38 i'd laugh in their face. Goes to show you can sell bloody anything on ebay We don`t know for sure that it is faulty it is auctioned as faulty/not working the description leads me to believe it is more not working then faulty - the description on the other auction leads me to believe that is geniunely faulty. Its possible the screen corruption issue happens at POST regardless of whether the driver loads and I feel that it should be mentioned to not mention it is too deliberately mislead or misrepresent. You may say its as simple as how can you misrepresent a faulty item but I think its wrong to lie or not mention a faulty when selling an item as faulty given the information already provided it would seem it could be a deliberate attempt to sell something known faulty as not-working faulty. Not working isn`t faulty. |
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"Conor" wrote in message
... In article , says... We don`t know for sure that it is faulty it is auctioned as faulty/not working the description leads me to believe it is more not working then faulty - the description on the other auction leads me to believe that is geniunely faulty. Are the words "Not working" too complex for your little mind to comprehend? Not working isn`t faulty. If I quit and gave up everytime something in my system wasn`t "working" I`d be sitting here in 16 color 640 * 480 w/o sound or modem. Eh? Are you not the most singularly stupid person on the planet? Not stupid enough to write something off without giving it the benefit of my vast expierience. |
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"Nick Le Lievre" wrote:
If I quit and gave up everytime something in my system wasn`t "working" I`d be sitting here in 16 color 640 * 480 w/o sound or modem. Your loss of the latter of those would be attractive to many, so I suggest you adopt this policy with immediate effect. -- iv Paul iv [ Mail: ] [ WWW: http://www.hopwood.org.uk/ ] |
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On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:35:55 -0000, "Nick Le Lievre"
wrote: If I quit and gave up everytime something in my system wasn`t "working" I`d be sitting here in 16 color 640 * 480 w/o sound or modem. So you only stare at 16color screens half the time? Eh? Are you not the most singularly stupid person on the planet? Not stupid enough to write something off without giving it the benefit of my vast expierience. Yes, you're an idiot. Theres a difference of a person taking a gamble on this card... and if it turns out DEAD - oh well. No big deal. I found a KT266 Mobo last year, didn't pay a penny. Spent a few minutes to see if its dead... it was. oh well. But you're getting upset about buying a noted defective product, or ASSUMED defective product. And saying you'll be ****ED if you actually bought a defective product, hoping that the SELLER was an idiot. You're paying nothing for a possibly bad card... You're an idiot... and a greedy asshole to boot. -- Remember when real men used Real computers!? When 512K of video RAM was a lot! Death to Palladium & WPA!! |
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"Andy" wrote in message ... "Nick Le Lievre" wrote in message ... Hi; I bought this item on eBay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...tem=2769544 2 41 on the basis of the information given which is the PCs recognise the card but will not load the drivers. I have not recieved the card yet but I`m starting to worry that I have not been given an honest auction description as it would appear to be. The most common genuine "fault" with these Creative Ti4400 cards is bad ram which is obvious from the screen corruption there is no mention of screen corruption in the auction description - so a correct representation would not mention screen corruption which it does not. However there is a possibility that the screen corruption only occurs once the drivers have loaded giving him a great reason to pretend he could not get the drivers loaded. This auction http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...category=27 3 87 clearly states the problem I`m referring too and I would not have bid on it. I have seen screen corruption on my own Ti4200 when you overclock the graphics memory too high this is only possible when the drivers are loaded obviously - maybe I will be able to clock the memory lower slowing down the card as a way around it - but I feel that if screen corruption occurs it will be obvious to me when I test it and that I have a right to feel cheated. As I say don`t actually have the item yet - whats your view ? If someone said i'm selling a faulty Ti4400 graphics card for £38 i'd laugh in their face. Goes to show you can sell bloody anything on ebay Too true. The winner placed his one and only bid 32 seconds before the end of the 7 day auction. Click before reading perhaps? |
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"Conor" wrote in message
... In article , says... Hi; I bought this item on eBay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=2769544 241 on the basis of the information given which is the PCs recognise the card but will not load the drivers. I have not recieved the card yet but I`m starting to worry that I have not been given an honest auction description as it would appear to be. As I say don`t actually have the item yet - whats your view ? You're an idiot for even bidding on it. If it doesn't work then you have no comeback. Did you even read the description before bidding? Part 1: " This card is auctioned as not working." Part 2: " I cannot guarantee it will Be recognized by any other computer and if the drivers do load correctly I cannot guarantee there isn=3Ft another problem . the card is auctioned as not working" I think I'd say that was a pretty honest description and clearly points out it doesn't work. He's selling it as a non worker. If you leave negtive feedback for this reason then it confirms you're an arse and I woudl expect you'd be given feedback along the lines of "Yet another moron who does't read descriptions properly.". You have confirmed that you are the kind of person who'd buy those £2 10GB SCSI HDDs at the local computer fair and expect them to work. Nick, this is fate giving you a well deserved kicking for all the crap you've dished out to people unfortunate enough to deal with you. Firstly nothings concrete yet I can`t confirm one way or the other - if the screen corruption problem is there and is there at POST I will leave negative feedback for omitting this rather important fact from the auction description if in fact the screen corruption only occurs if and when I can get drivers loading then I will give him the benefit of the doubt (I may be able to slow the memory down if its that type of problem) The infomation I have is the screen corruption is along the lines of chequered board effects on the screen etc even at POST which is faulty plain and simple not I couldn`t get the drivers loaded. Im not complaining I knew the risks but if crucial information has been omitted I will be annoyed. |
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