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AMD likely to beat Nvidia & Intel to market with the only DX11graphics card this year



 
 
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Old May 31st 09, 02:53 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.amd.x86-64,alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati,alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.sys.intel
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Default AMD likely to beat Nvidia & Intel to market with the only DX11graphics card this year

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...amd-dx11-cards
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Rumor...s-112899.shtml
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardwar...o-directx-11/1
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Old June 1st 09, 02:41 AM posted to alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia
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Default AMD likely to beat Nvidia & Intel to market with the only DX11graphics card this year

parallax-scroll wrote:
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...amd-dx11-cards
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Rumor...s-112899.shtml
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardwar...o-directx-11/1



Hate to reply to a spammer asshole, but this is good news. GT300 should
be taping out NOW or at least in production for Q4 anyway.

Good stuff coming.

http://www.bit-tech.net/bits/2008/09...hat-s-coming/2

A more efficient DX10, cGPU support (standardized "CUDA"/"Stream"), and
add to that every DX11 GPU will be a fully compliant 10.1 card (WTF
happened between NV? Non-important features my ass...).

Cannot find anyone announcing a future DX11 game yet. Probably not till
Q1 2010 after Win7 has a good running start.
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Old June 1st 09, 03:36 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware.amd.x86-64,alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati,alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.sys.intel
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Default AMD likely to beat Nvidia & Intel to market with the only DX11graphics card this year

parallax-scroll wrote:
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...amd-dx11-cards
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Rumor...s-112899.shtml
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardwar...o-directx-11/1


Basically, AMD's current DX10.1 cards are mostly DirectX11 compatible
already, so future ones are just a few steps from knocking on DX11's door.

Yousuf Khan
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Old June 1st 09, 11:54 PM posted to alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia
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Default AMD likely to beat Nvidia & Intel to market with the only DX11 graphics card this year

Well, according to these guys, with GT300 and subsequent, purely
general-purpose GPUs, DX and OpenGL won't matter. The developers will
essentially be doing software rendering directly on the GPU and skip the
APIs altogether.
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2...-interview.ars

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It can therefore be said that politics is war without
bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."


"deimos" deimos@localhost wrote in message
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parallax-scroll wrote:
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...amd-dx11-cards
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Rumor...s-112899.shtml
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardwar...o-directx-11/1



Hate to reply to a spammer asshole, but this is good news. GT300 should
be taping out NOW or at least in production for Q4 anyway.

Good stuff coming.

http://www.bit-tech.net/bits/2008/09...hat-s-coming/2

A more efficient DX10, cGPU support (standardized "CUDA"/"Stream"), and
add to that every DX11 GPU will be a fully compliant 10.1 card (WTF
happened between NV? Non-important features my ass...).

Cannot find anyone announcing a future DX11 game yet. Probably not till
Q1 2010 after Win7 has a good running start.



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Old June 3rd 09, 08:13 PM posted to alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati,alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia
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Default AMD likely to beat Nvidia & Intel to market with the only DX11 graphics card this year

"Yousuf Khan" wrote in message
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Basically, AMD's current DX10.1 cards are mostly DirectX11 compatible
already, so future ones are just a few steps from knocking on DX11's door.

Yousuf Khan



Lot of good DX11 will do us when I can still count the number of DX10 games
on one hand. Same thing with multiple cpu core aware games, I can count
those on two hands still and most use very small functions of the extra
cores too, maybe 5 - 10% increase in frame rates at most. BFD.

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Old June 4th 09, 01:42 AM posted to alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia
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Default AMD likely to beat Nvidia & Intel to market with the only DX11graphics card this year

First of One wrote:
Well, according to these guys, with GT300 and subsequent, purely
general-purpose GPUs, DX and OpenGL won't matter. The developers will
essentially be doing software rendering directly on the GPU and skip the
APIs altogether.
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2...-interview.ars


Sweeny's been touting that for quite a while, at least since he finished
Unreal and went into engine development full time. Remember, this is
a guy who designed a software renderer that many nearly matched the
visual quality of early accelerators. So his perspective is a bit one
sided and flavored by that achievement.

Originally Tim said we'd see everything on the CPU with multi-core
rendering around 2010 or so. Well we're here and GPU's are doing more
exciting things now . He also had some comments on raytracing as
well, but honestly we're going to be using hybrids for a very long time yet.
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Old June 4th 09, 01:43 AM posted to alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia
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Default AMD likely to beat Nvidia & Intel to market with the only DX11graphics card this year

Johnathon wrote:
"Yousuf Khan" wrote in message
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Basically, AMD's current DX10.1 cards are mostly DirectX11 compatible
already, so future ones are just a few steps from knocking on DX11's
door.

Yousuf Khan



Lot of good DX11 will do us when I can still count the number of DX10 games
on one hand. Same thing with multiple cpu core aware games, I can count
those on two hands still and most use very small functions of the extra
cores too, maybe 5 - 10% increase in frame rates at most. BFD.


I've got some friends, GTA IV and Saints Row 2, they'd like to say hello
to your unused cores.
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Old June 4th 09, 07:18 AM posted to alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia
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Default AMD likely to beat Nvidia & Intel to market with the only DX11 graphics card this year

"deimos" deimos@localhost wrote in message


[...]

Originally Tim said we'd see everything on the CPU with multi-core
rendering around 2010 or so. Well we're here and GPU's are doing more
exciting things now . He also had some comments on raytracing as
well, but honestly we're going to be using hybrids for a very long
time yet.


He is right about the trend though. I remember writing about the
foreseeable end of the discrete GPU on another forum a couple of years ago.
The writing is on the wall.



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Old June 4th 09, 11:30 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.amd.x86-64,alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati,alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.sys.intel
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Default AMD likely to beat Nvidia & Intel to market with the only DX11graphics card this year

On May 31, 9:36*pm, Yousuf Khan wrote:
parallax-scroll wrote:
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...amd-dx11-cards
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Rumor...st-with-Direct...
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardwar...ll-be-first-to...


Basically, AMD's current DX10.1 cards are mostly DirectX11 compatible
already, so future ones are just a few steps from knocking on DX11's door..

* * * * Yousuf Khan


Yes I understand AMD's current DX10.1 GPUs are almost DX11, but almost
is not there.
The hardware that DX11 requires is not fully present in AMD's DX10.1
GPUs.
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Old June 5th 09, 11:59 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.amd.x86-64,alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati,alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.sys.intel
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Default AMD likely to beat Nvidia & Intel to market with the only DX11graphics card this year

parallax-scroll wrote:
Yes I understand AMD's current DX10.1 GPUs are almost DX11, but almost
is not there.
The hardware that DX11 requires is not fully present in AMD's DX10.1
GPUs.


The hardest parts of DX11 were present in DX10.1. It would've been more
appropriate to call it DX10.9, since it's that much closer to DX11 than
DX10.

In fact, DX10.1 was supposed to be what DX10 was originally going to be,
except that Nvidia complained to Microsoft that it couldn't get it done,
so MS neutered the DX10 specs. ATI was ready right from the start to
implement the full 10.1 specs when 10 was first introduced. It was all
just held up because Nvidia was not able to get it done. In fact, I
don't think Nvidia even has a 10.1-spec card out.

Yousuf Khan
 




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