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K8V SE DELUX cant install OS
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Anyone successfuly installed Windows XP on a K8 board? Keeps rebooting just after it says "Stating Winodw" just after its loaded the drivers right at the begining of the Windows XP install. Sometimes get errors RE atapi.sys and sometimes get PAGE_FAULT_IN_NON_PAGEDAREA (or similar wording) PLZ help |
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wrote: HELP Anyone successfuly installed Windows XP on a K8 board? Keeps rebooting just after it says "Stating Winodw" just after its loaded the drivers right at the begining of the Windows XP install. Sometimes get errors RE atapi.sys and sometimes get PAGE_FAULT_IN_NON_PAGEDAREA (or similar wording) PLZ help This sounds like a memory problem. The K8V is a single channel board. If you are running two sticks at DDR400, the sticks should be installed in slots 1 and 3. If you have only one stick of memory, try it in slot 3 (furthest from the processor). (Remember to unplug the computer before moving the sticks - at the very least, make sure the green LED on the motherboard is not lit, when moving or changing components of any type on the motherboard.) If you are lucky, there will be a Vdimm setting in the BIOS. To operate memory at DDR400, this should really be set to 2.6V or higher. Even 2.75V won't hurt, if the motherboard supports it. It is time to test your memory with memtest86 from memtest.org . The program will format a blank floppy for you and put a program on it. You'll need to make the floppy the first device in the boot order in the BIOS. On the next boot, the floppy will boot the computer, and the program will display info about the memory in a 640x480 window. (The floppy does not have a file system on it, so the floppy cannot be listed in Windows.) If you get tons of errors in Memtest86, then that is your problem right there. You should be able to enter the BIOS and change some of the settings. The simplest thing to try, would be dropping the clock settings a bit, as that will give the memory extra time to respond. If no combination of settings is helping, it could be the memory is really bad (as in a stuck fault). If slowing the clock down stops the errors, it could be the memory just isn't going to work with that processor (but may work on another board). I've been through this crap with an Nforce2 board, and a quick fix is to buy some CAS2 memory. It is either that, or go Googling for some success stories with your motherboard model number as a search term. Since the memory controller is inside the processor, there is even a small chance that the problem is with the processor itself. Hope that gives you a few ideas. Try the cheap ideas first. Paul |
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In article , Kris
wrote: On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 16:20:15 -0500, (Paul) wrote: In article , "kris" wrote: HELP Anyone successfuly installed Windows XP on a K8 board? Keeps rebooting just after it says "Stating Winodw" just after its loaded the drivers right at the begining of the Windows XP install. Sometimes get errors RE atapi.sys and sometimes get PAGE_FAULT_IN_NON_PAGEDAREA (or similar wording) PLZ help This sounds like a memory problem. The K8V is a single channel board. If you are running two sticks at DDR400, the sticks should be installed in slots 1 and 3. If you have only one stick of memory, try it in slot 3 (furthest from the processor). (Remember to unplug the computer before moving the sticks - at the very least, make sure the green LED on the motherboard is not lit, when moving or changing components of any type on the motherboard.) If you are lucky, there will be a Vdimm setting in the BIOS. To operate memory at DDR400, this should really be set to 2.6V or higher. Even 2.75V won't hurt, if the motherboard supports it. It is time to test your memory with memtest86 from memtest.org . The program will format a blank floppy for you and put a program on it. You'll need to make the floppy the first device in the boot order in the BIOS. On the next boot, the floppy will boot the computer, and the program will display info about the memory in a 640x480 window. (The floppy does not have a file system on it, so the floppy cannot be listed in Windows.) If you get tons of errors in Memtest86, then that is your problem right there. You should be able to enter the BIOS and change some of the settings. The simplest thing to try, would be dropping the clock settings a bit, as that will give the memory extra time to respond. If no combination of settings is helping, it could be the memory is really bad (as in a stuck fault). If slowing the clock down stops the errors, it could be the memory just isn't going to work with that processor (but may work on another board). I've been through this crap with an Nforce2 board, and a quick fix is to buy some CAS2 memory. It is either that, or go Googling for some success stories with your motherboard model number as a search term. Since the memory controller is inside the processor, there is even a small chance that the problem is with the processor itself. Hope that gives you a few ideas. Try the cheap ideas first. Paul Cheers Paul, I havent run that mem test s/w you mentioned BUT I have tried DocMem which is supposed to be pretty godd and has indeed served me well. I have taken all the cards out except the graphics which does apparent work 100%. I say apparently since this isnt my PC. A friend went and bought the bits last week and has just given up and asked me to get windows on it. The mem in I have checked agained ASUS recommened for this board and it is there. So you would think its should pop in and run!!! I my self have the P4 775 P5AD2 Premiumn ASUS board and work like a dream so I trust ASUS :S with what they say. I have gone right though BIOS setup and disabled ALL onboard h/w except the main ATA controller and still get the same probs. Kris The difference is, memtest86 tests the entire memory. The program actually moves itself out of the way, and tests even the memory that originally held the code segment. No other memory test program I've read about, does that. Memtest86 is not a perfect testing program, and a further test is required once the OS is installed. That is Prime95 (torture test option) from mersenne.org . Prime95 is good for testing with more heat and electrical noise in the system, as sometimes memory that passes memtest86, still gets errors when the OS is running. (I have some memory that does that - Prime95 finds trouble in 30 minutes or less.) With respect to the Asus recommended list, we don't know what method they use to determine that a memory is recommended. If they only own four sticks of memory for one brand/model number, to do their testing, then that would not be a statistically significant sample. They do not document how they do the test. The results in some cases are ridiculous (like when 1 stick works, 4 sticks work, but a 2 stick configuration doesn't work). Asus also has a habit of listing memory that is no longer manufactured (such as Winbond BH-5 chips) or they list part numbers that are simply not in circulation (engineering samples). Many other suppliers of lists, will tell you what their qualification criterion is, but not Asus. (Intel, for example, qualifies memory based on specifications, rather than trying to test quality into their DDR400 memory list.) I hate to generalize, but both the Nforce2 motherboards, and the Athlon64 boards are picky about memory. Empirically, it would seem than not just any company can design good memory controllers. In your current situation, what this means, is either you get lucky and find a cheap memory that just happens to work with the Athlon64, or you buy some CAS2 memory and pay extra. About all I can suggest, is buy your memory from a retailer that allows exchange within a reasonable period, so that if you are having problems with a picky motherboard/CPU combo, you can find something that works. This newsgroup is not really a good place to collect RAM recommendations, as the active membership is not large enough to get a good answer in a short time. A better place to look, would be the private forums, like pcper.com, abxzone.com, nforcershq.com and so on. Occasionally, you can find a thread on one of those forums, where they conduct a poll of the users as to what works and what doesn't work. That kind of a thread is gold, because it reduces your research time a lot. Paul |
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kris wrote:
HELP Anyone successfuly installed Windows XP on a K8 board? Keeps rebooting just after it says "Stating Winodw" just after its loaded the drivers right at the begining of the Windows XP install. Sometimes get errors RE atapi.sys and sometimes get PAGE_FAULT_IN_NON_PAGEDAREA (or similar wording) PLZ help If it is not a memory problem, then see http://tinyurl.com/6yhsp about i changed the bios settings for advanced jumperFree Configuration Performance mode [auto] [standard] [turbo] -- "As a thinker and planner, the ant is the equal of any savage race of men; as a self-educated specialist in several arts she is the superior of any savage race of men; and in one or two high mental qualities she is above the reach of any man..." --Mark Twain /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Ant @ The Ant Farm: http://antfarm.ma.cx | |o o| | Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net \ _ / Please remove ANT if replying by e-mail. ( ) |
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