P4C800-E Deluxe - Capturing Video Through the M/B's Firewire Port(s)

Hi

After building my new NLE system around this M/B I find that there are
problems when capturing Video direct through either one of it's firewire
ports. I am not the only one and from my research it seems it's down to the
Via OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Controller. If you happen to have another
firewire port on your system in say a capture card, or in my case, on the
back of my Audigy 2 ZS SoundCard, capture works just fine, without any
dropped frames at all. This seems such a basic problem to have (AFAIK) no
solution that I can find on what is after all a top of the range M/B

Anyone found information or a solution?
Paul


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"Paul" wrote in message
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Hi

After building my new NLE system around this M/B I find that there are
problems when capturing Video direct through either one of it's firewire
ports. I am not the only one and from my research it seems it's down to
the
Via OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Controller. If you happen to have another
firewire port on your system in say a capture card, or in my case, on the
back of my Audigy 2 ZS SoundCard, capture works just fine, without any
dropped frames at all. This seems such a basic problem to have (AFAIK) no
solution that I can find on what is after all a top of the range M/B

Anyone found information or a solution?
Paul

I have this board, and capture flawlessly from the onboard 1394, the one in
my Antec front
panel (which is off a MB header) as well as the one in my Audigy 2
(dont know what a ZS model is, but its all firewire).

I use a Canon ZR65MC what camera are you using?

I use a Panasonic NV-MX300 and the Audigy 2 ZS is the new model. After
visiting a number of forums, there are others who suffer like myself but
there doesn't seem to be a solution and the Asus & Via websites are
pityfully scant concerning this connectivity.


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Hi

After building my new NLE system around this M/B I find that there are
problems when capturing Video direct through either one of it's firewire
ports. I am not the only one and from my research it seems it's down to
the
Via OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Controller. If you happen to have another
firewire port on your system in say a capture card, or in my case, on
the
back of my Audigy 2 ZS SoundCard, capture works just fine, without any
dropped frames at all. This seems such a basic problem to have (AFAIK)
no
solution that I can find on what is after all a top of the range M/B

Anyone found information or a solution?
Paul

I have this board, and capture flawlessly from the onboard 1394, the one
in
my Antec front
panel (which is off a MB header) as well as the one in my Audigy 2
(dont know what a ZS model is, but its all firewire).

I use a Canon ZR65MC what camera are you using?

Umm, what do you need from VIA? I own this board,
and I dont think I needed a VIA driver for anything, thats why I bought a
Intel chipset board.
"Paul" wrote in message
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I use a Panasonic NV-MX300 and the Audigy 2 ZS is the new model. After
visiting a number of forums, there are others who suffer like myself but
there doesn't seem to be a solution and the Asus & Via websites are
pityfully scant concerning this connectivity.


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"Paul" wrote in message
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Hi

After building my new NLE system around this M/B I find that there are
problems when capturing Video direct through either one of it's
firewire
ports. I am not the only one and from my research it seems it's down
to
the
Via OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Controller. If you happen to have
another
firewire port on your system in say a capture card, or in my case, on
the
back of my Audigy 2 ZS SoundCard, capture works just fine, without any
dropped frames at all. This seems such a basic problem to have
(AFAIK)
no
solution that I can find on what is after all a top of the range M/B

Anyone found information or a solution?
Paul

I have this board, and capture flawlessly from the onboard 1394, the one
in
my Antec front
panel (which is off a MB header) as well as the one in my Audigy 2
(dont know what a ZS model is, but its all firewire).

I use a Canon ZR65MC what camera are you using?

So basically I've bought a very expensive M/B which is useless Firewire-wise
unless you install another card with Firewire connectivity right? This is
clearly a big issue yet nobody seems to want to do something about it other
than put up with it. It's no answer to say "it doesn't affect me".

Sheesh!!!!!!!!!!

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Umm, what do you need from VIA? I own this board,
and I dont think I needed a VIA driver for anything, thats why I bought a
Intel chipset board.
"Paul" wrote in message
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I use a Panasonic NV-MX300 and the Audigy 2 ZS is the new model. After
visiting a number of forums, there are others who suffer like myself but
there doesn't seem to be a solution and the Asus & Via websites are
pityfully scant concerning this connectivity.


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"Paul" wrote in message
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Hi

After building my new NLE system around this M/B I find that there
are
problems when capturing Video direct through either one of it's
firewire
ports. I am not the only one and from my research it seems it's
down
to
the
Via OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Controller. If you happen to have
another
firewire port on your system in say a capture card, or in my case,
on
the
back of my Audigy 2 ZS SoundCard, capture works just fine, without
any
dropped frames at all. This seems such a basic problem to have
(AFAIK)
no
solution that I can find on what is after all a top of the range M/B

Anyone found information or a solution?
Paul

I have this board, and capture flawlessly from the onboard 1394, the
one
in
my Antec front
panel (which is off a MB header) as well as the one in my Audigy 2
(dont know what a ZS model is, but its all firewire).

I use a Canon ZR65MC what camera are you using?

"Paul" wrote in message
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So basically I've bought a very expensive M/B which is useless
Firewire-wise
unless you install another card with Firewire connectivity right? It's
no answer to say "it doesn't affect me".

No. Where did I say anything akin to that? I said I dont experience this
problem, but never said anything
about it being useless firewire wise.

This is
clearly a big issue yet nobody seems to want to do something about it
other
than put up with it.

It's only a big issue to you at the moment, because you cant capture video,
trust me, it'll
boil down in a bit. I dont have to 'put up with it' because *I* havent seen
it, remember the
saying 'Your mileage may vary'? not everyone is going to be able to
replicate your problem.

And, once again, I say, I have captured FLAWLESSLY through the Firewire port
ON my MB's backplate AND via the 2nd Firewire header which use the VIA OHCI
compliant
controller onboard (which does not need a driver of its own, its part of the
875P chipset package
you install), and via the Audigy2's firewire which lists a vague 'IEEE 1394
OHCI Compliant
Host Controller Vendor' as the maker of the chip.

Perhaps if you were to elaborate on what program you are capturing with,
what speed of HD you use
and your basic system specs (RAM/CPU). Your very quick to rant about the
lack of help, but your
not giving much to work with.

Hi there,

I have the same problem on a P4C800-D with a Audigy 2 Platinum the onboard
Firewire port drops loads of frames use the Audigy Firewire port very few if
any dropped frames.

I'm going to remove the Audigy and see if there is a difference but looks
like some problem with the onboard Firewire port.

I'm using Sony PC120E, Adobe Premier Pro also tried Pinnacle Studio and
Expressions 2 all exhibit the same problem of dropped frames when using the
onboard Firewire port.

Just pleased I've got the Audigy with it's Firewire ports but an odd one.

Tim.


"Philip Callan" wrote in message
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"Paul" wrote in message
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So basically I've bought a very expensive M/B which is useless
Firewire-wise
unless you install another card with Firewire connectivity right? It's
no answer to say "it doesn't affect me".

No. Where did I say anything akin to that? I said I dont experience this
problem, but never said anything
about it being useless firewire wise.

This is
clearly a big issue yet nobody seems to want to do something about it
other
than put up with it.

It's only a big issue to you at the moment, because you cant capture
video,
trust me, it'll
boil down in a bit. I dont have to 'put up with it' because *I* havent
seen
it, remember the
saying 'Your mileage may vary'? not everyone is going to be able to
replicate your problem.

And, once again, I say, I have captured FLAWLESSLY through the Firewire
port
ON my MB's backplate AND via the 2nd Firewire header which use the VIA
OHCI
compliant
controller onboard (which does not need a driver of its own, its part of
the
875P chipset package
you install), and via the Audigy2's firewire which lists a vague 'IEEE
1394
OHCI Compliant
Host Controller Vendor' as the maker of the chip.

Perhaps if you were to elaborate on what program you are capturing with,
what speed of HD you use
and your basic system specs (RAM/CPU). Your very quick to rant about the
lack of help, but your
not giving much to work with.

Thanks Tim for baling me out here. I KNOW I am not the only person
experiencing this problem.

However further research suggests it could be a clash with the RAID
controller. I am using 2 x WD Raptors (SATA 150) set it a RAID
configuration for my OS (XP Pro & SP1a) and Programs. This is installed on
the Intel ICH5R Controller. My Storage volume is on 2 x Seagate Barracuda
7's (SATA 150) again set in a RAID 0 configuration. I am running a P4 3Ghz
and a Gigabyte 9800 Pro Graphics card. I am not overclocking anything.
Capture will be via a Pinnacle DV500 card which I have not yet installed
using Adobe Premiere 6.5, however I don't intend installing this card until
next week. In the meantime I am using Adobe Premiere Pro to capture DV
direct through a firewire port. This would appear to be afflicting RAID
users, I think, Philip do you use a RAID configuration? - if not then this
further points to this might be the problem. As you say Philip, it's
strange that the onboard ports don't work and an external one will that said
I have never rated Via - bad experiences but that's an entirely different
matter - I appreciate what you say though regarding the fact that additional
drivers are not required, although if the problem is related to one of the
RAID controllers (which one?) then updated drivers will indeed be necessary.

Paul

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"Tim" wrote in message
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Hi there,

I have the same problem on a P4C800-D with a Audigy 2 Platinum the onboard
Firewire port drops loads of frames use the Audigy Firewire port very few
if
any dropped frames.

I'm going to remove the Audigy and see if there is a difference but looks
like some problem with the onboard Firewire port.

I'm using Sony PC120E, Adobe Premier Pro also tried Pinnacle Studio and
Expressions 2 all exhibit the same problem of dropped frames when using
the
onboard Firewire port.

Just pleased I've got the Audigy with it's Firewire ports but an odd one.

Tim.


"Philip Callan" wrote in message
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"Paul" wrote in message
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So basically I've bought a very expensive M/B which is useless
Firewire-wise
unless you install another card with Firewire connectivity right?
It's
no answer to say "it doesn't affect me".

No. Where did I say anything akin to that? I said I dont experience this
problem, but never said anything
about it being useless firewire wise.

This is
clearly a big issue yet nobody seems to want to do something about it
other
than put up with it.

It's only a big issue to you at the moment, because you cant capture
video,
trust me, it'll
boil down in a bit. I dont have to 'put up with it' because *I* havent
seen
it, remember the
saying 'Your mileage may vary'? not everyone is going to be able to
replicate your problem.

And, once again, I say, I have captured FLAWLESSLY through the Firewire
port
ON my MB's backplate AND via the 2nd Firewire header which use the VIA
OHCI
compliant
controller onboard (which does not need a driver of its own, its part of
the
875P chipset package
you install), and via the Audigy2's firewire which lists a vague 'IEEE
1394
OHCI Compliant
Host Controller Vendor' as the maker of the chip.

Perhaps if you were to elaborate on what program you are capturing with,
what speed of HD you use
and your basic system specs (RAM/CPU). Your very quick to rant about the
lack of help, but your
not giving much to work with.

Hi there,

A couple of things obviously I'm using a P4C800-Deluxe not the P4C800-E
Deluxe also I'm not using a raid configuration at the moment just using my
raid controller in IDE mode.

I must admit haven't tried to use the onboard Firewire port in the
configuration as I only reinstalled in this mode a week ago will give it a
try later in the week and report back.

Tim.





"Paul" wrote in message
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Thanks Tim for baling me out here. I KNOW I am not the only person
experiencing this problem.

However further research suggests it could be a clash with the RAID
controller. I am using 2 x WD Raptors (SATA 150) set it a RAID
configuration for my OS (XP Pro & SP1a) and Programs. This is installed
on
the Intel ICH5R Controller. My Storage volume is on 2 x Seagate Barracuda
7's (SATA 150) again set in a RAID 0 configuration. I am running a P4
3Ghz
and a Gigabyte 9800 Pro Graphics card. I am not overclocking anything.
Capture will be via a Pinnacle DV500 card which I have not yet installed
using Adobe Premiere 6.5, however I don't intend installing this card
until
next week. In the meantime I am using Adobe Premiere Pro to capture DV
direct through a firewire port. This would appear to be afflicting RAID
users, I think, Philip do you use a RAID configuration? - if not then this
further points to this might be the problem. As you say Philip, it's
strange that the onboard ports don't work and an external one will that
said
I have never rated Via - bad experiences but that's an entirely different
matter - I appreciate what you say though regarding the fact that
additional
drivers are not required, although if the problem is related to one of the
RAID controllers (which one?) then updated drivers will indeed be
necessary.

Paul

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"Tim" wrote in message
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Hi there,

I have the same problem on a P4C800-D with a Audigy 2 Platinum the
onboard
Firewire port drops loads of frames use the Audigy Firewire port very
few
if
any dropped frames.

I'm going to remove the Audigy and see if there is a difference but
looks
like some problem with the onboard Firewire port.

I'm using Sony PC120E, Adobe Premier Pro also tried Pinnacle Studio and
Expressions 2 all exhibit the same problem of dropped frames when using
the
onboard Firewire port.

Just pleased I've got the Audigy with it's Firewire ports but an odd
one.

Tim.


"Philip Callan" wrote in message
news:jLgnb.198509$9l5.59605@pd7tw2no...

"Paul" wrote in message
...
So basically I've bought a very expensive M/B which is useless
Firewire-wise
unless you install another card with Firewire connectivity right?
It's
no answer to say "it doesn't affect me".

No. Where did I say anything akin to that? I said I dont experience
this
problem, but never said anything
about it being useless firewire wise.

This is
clearly a big issue yet nobody seems to want to do something about
it
other
than put up with it.

It's only a big issue to you at the moment, because you cant capture
video,
trust me, it'll
boil down in a bit. I dont have to 'put up with it' because *I* havent
seen
it, remember the
saying 'Your mileage may vary'? not everyone is going to be able to
replicate your problem.

And, once again, I say, I have captured FLAWLESSLY through the
Firewire
port
ON my MB's backplate AND via the 2nd Firewire header which use the VIA
OHCI
compliant
controller onboard (which does not need a driver of its own, its part
of
the
875P chipset package
you install), and via the Audigy2's firewire which lists a vague 'IEEE
1394
OHCI Compliant
Host Controller Vendor' as the maker of the chip.

Perhaps if you were to elaborate on what program you are capturing
with,
what speed of HD you use
and your basic system specs (RAM/CPU). Your very quick to rant about
the
lack of help, but your
not giving much to work with.

"Paul" wrote in message
...
Thanks Tim for baling me out here. I KNOW I am not the only person
experiencing this problem.

However further research suggests it could be a clash with the RAID
controller. This would appear to be afflicting RAID
users, I think, Philip do you use a RAID configuration?

Nope, I dont use either RAID on either controller, so your right, it may
only affect certain users
worth looking at twice