what's with my ink setup?

measher-****-head, the oem ink drinking canon shill wrote:


rb wrote:
Well, it's not Epson ink going in. And, I think you're probably down
the right road on this one.

I have a feeling it's a chip problem, too.

What is a chip resetter? Where find?


No it is a user problem. If a user follows the recommendations in the
Epson manual then this would not be a problem. Go to a store and
replace all of the carts with epson ink and the problem will go aaway.

You are a known and admitted lying moron as well as being a confirmed idiot.
Best you just go away and never return.

Nice composition but in short just use Epson ink. Go to Staples or
someplace like that and buy genuine Epson carts. You will not have any
more problems and will not have to endure long compositions.






On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 17:12:28 -0800, Arthur Entlich wrote:

The first thing we need to know is what you are using to replace the
cartridge.

1) An new Epson (OEM) cartridge. This is one that you buy from a store
and is in a cardboard box that states it is a new cartridge manufactured
by Epson. (there are also very well made counterfeit cartridges out
there that look identical to Epson's own)

2) A new cartridge made by another manufacturer than Epson

3) A commercially refilled cartridge which may use an Epson cartridge
shell or another brand

4) A cartridge which you had refilled locally

5) A cartridge which you have refilled with ink


The problem you are experiencing may have a different cause depending
upon which type of cartridge situation you are involved in.

If it is an Epson OEM cartridge, chances are the microchip on the
cartridge is fine, in which case you need to look at the small gold
wires which contact that chip pad to make sure they are clean and not
distorted. To clean them, use a cotton swab and wet it in isopropyl
alcohol, and gently clean the wires and allow them to dry. You can also
gently wipe the chip pad on the cartridge (the small circuit board with
some flat contact points on it). Make sure the cartridge is fully
inserted, or it may also misread the chip.

If the wires are distorted or damaged, you may be able to gently
reposition them using a bend paperclip. However, be careful, they are
made of a brittle metal and will not tolerate a lot of bending.

If the cartridges are not Epson brand, the chips are sometimes not
programmed correctly for your printer, and the printer will throw an
error (flashing lights, or otherwise).

In some cases you can reprogram these chips with a chip resetter. They
are for sale both at some retail stores and through places on line,
including ebay. They are a small device that reprograms the chip for
your printer, but you need to purchase the correct resetter for your
printer model. They are battery operated and can be used over and over.

The chip I speak of here monitors the amount of ink that is supposed to
be left in the cartridge. I say supposed, because it is not the actual
reading of the ink, but one based upon an assumption of ink used during
printing and cleaning cycles subtracted from an assumed full cartridge.

If you have an "empty cartridge (the printer indicates the cartridge
needs replacing) and you refill it yourself but do not reset the
cartridge chip, when you reinstall that cartridge, the printer will
still read the chip as empty, and the printer will not accept that
cartridge even if it is now filled with ink.

In order for the cartridge to be acknowledge you need to reset the
cartridge with a resetter device, as mentioned earlier.

Lastly, if you wish to avoid paying for a chip resetter, you can use a
free program available on line for some cartridges. This program can
"freeze" the ink level at whatever level it is currently at. It will
not inform you when you cartridge is running out or empty, however, and
it will not work for a cartridge which is already empty or indicating it
needs replacement.

That software can be found at:

http://www.ssclg.com/epsone.shtml

Please read the instructions carefully.

If you have further questions please ask, but provide extra details to
help us pursue this.

Art


If you are interested in issues surrounding e-waste,
I invite you to enter the discussion at my blog:

http://e-trashtalk.spaces.live.com/

rb wrote:
For whatever reason, everytime we put one ink, out of a set, in my Epson
CX9400Fax the other inks don't "recognize" it.

Therefore, we have to put in all four cartridges together, and everything
seems fine.

What's going on with this? Why can't I change a single cartridge???

On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 20:27:34 -0600, rb wrote:

Thanks for the help.

What I've done is buy several cheap ebay sources of ink. Now, I have to
change 'em all four out, or none will work, according to Epson error
message.

Good info you guys have provided me with.

Oh yeah but better info is to use Epson ink in genuine Epson carts.

On Nov 6, 11:01 am, measekite wrote:

Oh yeah but better info is to use Epson ink in genuine Epson carts.

This might be true. I use Canon ink in genuine Canon Carts. It
happens to be canon compatible.

On Thu, 06 Nov 2008 14:43:50 -0800, IntergalacticExpandingPanda wrote:

On Nov 6, 11:01 am, measekite wrote:

Oh yeah but better info is to use Epson ink in genuine Epson carts.

This might be true. I use Canon ink in genuine Canon Carts. It
happens to be canon compatible.


You are either a liar or you do not know what you are talking about.
There is not such thing as Canon compatible. If you use Canon ink it was
mfg inside a Canon cart and packed in a box labeled Canon. The only
exception is a counterfeit box.

On Nov 6, 7:07 pm, measekite wrote:

You are either a liar or you do not know what you are talking about.
There is not such thing as Canon compatible. If you use Canon ink it was
mfg inside a Canon cart and packed in a box labeled Canon. The only
exception is a counterfeit box.

No. There is such thing as canon compatible.

-Image Specialist Numbers
PGI-5 BK = WJ1020
CLI-8 BK = WJ1109
CLI-8 Cyan = WJ2032
CLI-8 Magenta = WJ6121
CLI-8 Yellow = WJ797
http://www.image-specialists.com/cat...top_step1.aspx

You'll notice that Pigment black WJ1020 is rather common among inkjet
printers
You'll notice Cyan WJ2032 listed for bci-6/7 and cli-8.
Magenta WJ6121 is limited to the cli-8 series
Yellow WJ797 Limited to bci-6/7 and cli-8
Black WJ1109 is limited to the cli-8 series.
(note I didn't include bci-7 and cli 41/51 in the comments)

The above is canon compatible ink. It's made by Image Specalists for
inkjet printers. The pigment ink is somewhat generic. It's listed as
compatible with the HP #45 as well as Lexmark and some others but the
dye ink is rather Canon specific.

It's ink, Canon doesn't manufacture ink. I don't know if they even
actually formulate the ink. It's manufactured by someone else, or in
some cases several other people. Canon is pretty consistent, I'll
give them that, but other people make ink for the Canon.

measekite wrote:
On Thu, 06 Nov 2008 14:43:50 -0800, IntergalacticExpandingPanda wrote:

On Nov 6, 11:01 am, measekite wrote:

Oh yeah but better info is to use Epson ink in genuine Epson carts.
This might be true. I use Canon ink in genuine Canon Carts. It
happens to be canon compatible.


You are either a liar or you do not know what you are talking about.

Oh/! That would be an asshole like you!

There is not such thing as Canon compatible.

English isn't your first language is it measher-****-head?

If you use Canon ink it was
mfg inside a Canon cart and packed in a box labeled Canon.

Well fukkin DUH!!! How long did it take an idiot like you to figured
that one out?

The only
exception is a counterfeit box.

Are you in the USA legally? Does the INS know you're here? Do they know
that you are an austrian fascist atheist lying pig?

On Thu, 06 Nov 2008 19:32:38 -0800, IntergalacticExpandingPanda wrote:

On Nov 6, 7:07 pm, measekite wrote:

You are either a liar or you do not know what you are talking about.
There is not such thing as Canon compatible. If you use Canon ink it was
mfg inside a Canon cart and packed in a box labeled Canon. The only
exception is a counterfeit box.

No. There is such thing as canon compatible.

-Image Specialist Numbers
PGI-5 BK = WJ1020
CLI-8 BK = WJ1109
CLI-8 Cyan = WJ2032
CLI-8 Magenta = WJ6121
CLI-8 Yellow = WJ797
http://www.image-specialists.com/cat...top_step1.aspx

You'll notice that Pigment black WJ1020 is rather common among inkjet
printers
You'll notice Cyan WJ2032 listed for bci-6/7 and cli-8.
Magenta WJ6121 is limited to the cli-8 series
Yellow WJ797 Limited to bci-6/7 and cli-8
Black WJ1109 is limited to the cli-8 series.
(note I didn't include bci-7 and cli 41/51 in the comments)


These are NOT Canon numbers.

They are NOT on the Canon website

This is NOT Canon ink.

I called Canon and they said they have nothing to do with Canon and Canon
DOES NOT RECOMMEND them for use in any Canon printer.







The above is canon compatible ink. It's made by Image Specalists for


Compatible is just a stupid word. Like in the old days IBM compatible and
a lot of software that depended on the EPROMS did not work. Just because
they squirt out of the nozzle does not make is compatible.



inkjet printers. The pigment ink is somewhat generic. It's listed as
compatible with the HP #45 as well as Lexmark and some others but the
dye ink is rather Canon specific.


It is still generic ink. It is NOT factory recommended ink.

It's ink, Canon doesn't manufacture ink. I don't know if they even
actually formulate the ink. It's manufactured by someone else, or in
some cases several other people. Canon is pretty consistent, I'll
give them that, but other people make ink for the Canon.

measher-****-head wrote:

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Nothing but his usual pack of lies!
Get lost asshole and don't bother to come back!

On Nov 7, 10:52 am, measekite wrote:

These are NOT Canon numbers.

No, they are Image Specialist numbers.

They are NOT on the Canon website

No, they are on the Image Specialist website, and some others that
sell their ink.

This is NOT Canon ink.

It is Canon ink. As I pointed out with the exception of the pigment
ink, they dye ink they make is exclusively for Canon. The pigment
ink was used in older HPs such as yours, the #45 cartridge.

I called Canon and they said they have nothing to do with Canon and Canon
DOES NOT RECOMMEND them for use in any Canon printer.

Well, canon doesn't recommend anything but their own products. In
fact, they don't even recommend anything but their paper. I got that
speech from them when had to get a head replaced on my mp760. They
are not responsible for damage cause by other manufactures paper, so I
asked them if they wanted me to do a nozzle test on Canon matte paper,
and they said no that would be silly.

Compatible is just a stupid word. Like in the old days IBM compatible and
a lot of software that depended on the EPROMS did not work. Just because
they squirt out of the nozzle does not make is compatible.

You have a valid point. Image Specialist ink not only squirt out the
nozzle, but they are reasonably color balanced to the OEM ink. It's
not an exact match, but it's good enough. In fact, someone might
prefer it over OEM.

But this IBM compatible thing, you understand that this only covers a
short period of time in IBM history? It became a moot point when 3rd
parties could take IBM roms, and it became a further moot point when
IBM clones became the standard, and IBM was the incompatible one. It
also was a moot point when Microsoft included basic as part of dos.

Come to think about it, some IBMs were shipped without the basic
roms.

And IBM compatible missing software needed to run certain programs is
still an IBM compatible. However there were levels of compatibility.

1) Media - DEC for example shipped with 5.25 inch drives, full height
double drive single sided.

2) CPU - I know of a few systems that shipped with an 80186 or a
8086. Sometimes these guys didn't play nice with stuff made for the
IBM XT. Most common was software that used XT timing to operate.

3) OS - Does it run MS-dos?

4) Hardware - Extra slot for IBM roms for basic, ISA slots, that sort
of thing. Wang for example didn't offer hardware compatibility. DEC
was usually better about offering ISA slots, and their own processor
slot and in the 386 age, their own 32bit slot for drive controller. I
had one that sported a full height ESDI drive.

5) Keyboard - DEC was noted to offer their own keyboard

6) Video - Herc, CGA, VGA. AT&T for example offered a video card
which supported analog RGB but not any graphics compatibility.

7) System - This is where the roms came in.

IBM compatible for the most part in 1984 meant something that will run
MS-DOS (3). This was good enough for most people. In some rare
cases, some software demanded full system compatibility (7). But
guess what, this became a non issue when software developers designed
their software to work with level (3) systems. Level (3) systems were
the norm, and as such became the standard.

I have NEVER personally encountered software that demanded an IBM XT
Basic Roms.

It is still generic ink. It is NOT factory recommended ink.

No, it's not generic ink. It's Image Specialist ink made for Canon,
except the pigment ink which is also used in a couple other printers.
Image Specialists is the manufacture of the ink. They make ink
specifically for the Canon.