Epson printers are electronic theieves

Gentlemen,

I have reached the conclusion that the Epson corporation is both incompetant
and corrupt. Someone should sue their scrawny little asses.

I have an RX500 - a high end combi-device.

Today, the reading on my black ink cartridge hit zero, while the other 5
read between 23-28%
I replaced the black cartridge with a 3rd party product from Gold-Ink.

After installation the printer informed me that it was loading the ink.

I decided to print the test page.

Failure - and worse.

1: "The ink cartridge is different from Epson blah blah blah" message. This
will now appear EVERY time I try to print !!!!!!!!!!
2: The device reset all 5 other cartridges to 0%
3: The device has the black cartridge now pegged at 83%, despite not yet
having printed 1 character

Because the other 5 cartridges now MUST be replaced I still cannot print and
I am REALLY ****ed off. Check how much 6 cartridges (even of alternative
branbd) ink costs - this is an expensive exercise.

The audacity of these assholes to pull this sort of stunt amazes me. It is
both amoral and illegal. There is no technical reason for what has
happenned to me - it is just punishment for installing a non-Epson
cartridge - something I believe is my commercial right.

I mean, how much money do I have to spend on cartridges before I give up ?
Is an ERROR message at EVERY print job even marginally apprpriate ?

Where do I get my money back ??

Dr. Dweeb

Dr. Dweeb wrote:
Gentlemen,

I have reached the conclusion that the Epson corporation is both incompetant
and corrupt. Someone should sue their scrawny little asses.

I have an RX500 - a high end combi-device.

Today, the reading on my black ink cartridge hit zero, while the other 5
read between 23-28%
I replaced the black cartridge with a 3rd party product from Gold-Ink.

After installation the printer informed me that it was loading the ink.

I decided to print the test page.

Failure - and worse.

1: "The ink cartridge is different from Epson blah blah blah" message. This
will now appear EVERY time I try to print !!!!!!!!!!
2: The device reset all 5 other cartridges to 0%
3: The device has the black cartridge now pegged at 83%, despite not yet
having printed 1 character

Because the other 5 cartridges now MUST be replaced I still cannot print and
I am REALLY ****ed off. Check how much 6 cartridges (even of alternative
branbd) ink costs - this is an expensive exercise.

The audacity of these assholes to pull this sort of stunt amazes me. It is
both amoral and illegal. There is no technical reason for what has
happenned to me - it is just punishment for installing a non-Epson
cartridge - something I believe is my commercial right.

I mean, how much money do I have to spend on cartridges before I give up ?
Is an ERROR message at EVERY print job even marginally apprpriate ?

Where do I get my money back ??

Dr. Dweeb





Well consider HP is Digital/compaq, I'd go for an HP printer.

Dr. Dweebwrote:
quote="Dr. Dweeb"
2: The device reset all 5 other cartridges to 0%


Now that is naughty, very naughty indeed and it just goes to show what
Epson are getting up to.

It sounds like the current Epson trend, there should have been ample
warning that this printer will not work with 3rd party inks plainly
marked 'for all to see' on the outside of the box - not on the user
manual or left for the user to find out.

So whats happened here is you have bought a printer that will only
work with Epson ink and that it did not even indicate it.

Totally unfair a printer should not descriminate between brands of
ink

Epson have got you by the goolies.

Davy

"Dr. Dweeb" wrote:
Gentlemen,

I have reached the conclusion that the Epson corporation is both incompetant
and corrupt. Someone should sue their scrawny little asses.

I have an RX500 - a high end combi-device.

Today, the reading on my black ink cartridge hit zero, while the other 5
read between 23-28%
I replaced the black cartridge with a 3rd party product from Gold-Ink.

After installation the printer informed me that it was loading the ink.

I decided to print the test page.

Failure - and worse.

1: "The ink cartridge is different from Epson blah blah blah" message. This
will now appear EVERY time I try to print !!!!!!!!!!
2: The device reset all 5 other cartridges to 0%
3: The device has the black cartridge now pegged at 83%, despite not yet
having printed 1 character

Because the other 5 cartridges now MUST be replaced I still cannot print and
I am REALLY ****ed off. Check how much 6 cartridges (even of alternative
branbd) ink costs - this is an expensive exercise.

The audacity of these assholes to pull this sort of stunt amazes me. It is
both amoral and illegal. There is no technical reason for what has
happenned to me - it is just punishment for installing a non-Epson
cartridge - something I believe is my commercial right.

I mean, how much money do I have to spend on cartridges before I give up ?
Is an ERROR message at EVERY print job even marginally apprpriate ?

Where do I get my money back ??

Dr. Dweeb

Terrible practice I agree.
Have you tried using the driver software to change all the cartridges again but
using the *same* cartrdiges? I have seen this work. You need to change one
cartridge at a time. It will not work from the printer so you have to do it
from the maintenance/service or whatever tab in the printer driver and choose
to replace the cartridge early.
Tony

Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER wrote:
In article , Beach Runner writes:

Well consider HP is Digital/compaq, I'd go for an HP printer.


Nope. HP is not DEC and even worse than EPSON in inks. Try CANON...

I'll second Canon. Mine still worked for monochrome when the colour
cartridge ran out, and third party cartridges work fine.

Dr. Dweeb wrote:

Gentlemen,

I have reached the conclusion that the Epson corporation is both incompetant
and corrupt. Someone should sue their scrawny little asses.

I have an RX500 - a high end combi-device.

Today, the reading on my black ink cartridge hit zero, while the other 5
read between 23-28%
I replaced the black cartridge with a 3rd party product from Gold-Ink.

After installation the printer informed me that it was loading the ink.

I decided to print the test page.

Failure - and worse.


THAT SOUNDS GREAT. YOU SHOULD HAVE USED EPSON OEM INK AND YOU WOULD NOT
HAVE THE PROBLEM.

1: "The ink cartridge is different from Epson blah blah blah" message. This
will now appear EVERY time I try to print !!!!!!!!!!
2: The device reset all 5 other cartridges to 0%
3: The device has the black cartridge now pegged at 83%, despite not yet
having printed 1 character

Because the other 5 cartridges now MUST be replaced I still cannot print and
I am REALLY ****ed off.

IT IS BETTER TO BE ****ED OFF THEN ****ED ON. YOU GOT ****ED ON BY THE
AFTERMARKET WHORE YOU BOUGHT THE INK FROM

Check how much 6 cartridges (even of alternative
branbd) ink costs - this is an expensive exercise.


BUY A NEW PRINTER ON SALE. THEY USUALLY COST ABOUT THE SAME AS THE
INK. NOW THAT IS TRUE FOR THE PRINTER ONLY. IF YOU HAD NOT BOUGHT A
MFD THEN YOU WOULD NOT HAVE TO REPLACE THE SCANNER.

The audacity of these assholes to pull this sort of stunt amazes me. It is
both amoral and illegal.

IF IT WAS ILLEGAL THEY WOULD NOT DO IT. IMORAL, WELL SO ARE THE WHORES
THAT SELL AFTERMARKET INK AND WILL NOT TELL YOU WHAT YOU ARE BUYING.

There is no technical reason for what has
happenned to me - it is just punishment for installing a non-Epson
cartridge - something I believe is my commercial right.

I mean, how much money do I have to spend on cartridges before I give up ?
Is an ERROR message at EVERY print job even marginally apprpriate ?

Where do I get my money back ??


FROM THE WHORE YOU BOUGHT THE INK FROM.

Dr. Dweeb

[[quote:6888597503]quote="Peter 'EPLAN' Try CANON...
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Well said Sir...!

I have had the ip5000 about 4 months and not one single problem or
manual nozzle clean yet, I can print and forget, with the Epsons I
had to check each prints even text docs. for flaws.

Canon uses ink where Epson wastes ink, plus fact you can see the ink
in the Canon's and they'er not chipped.

Davy

On 9-Oct-2005, JF Mezei wrote:

Note that there was an article on CNET recently about how now about half
the people prefer to just go to some photo shop to have pictures printed
versus fiddling with their own printer/paper and INK, especially since
photo shops now cost much less for each image than printing it yourself.

And with the on-line shops you get perfect prints on archive paper, not
dye images that fade. This assumes that you are proficient enough
to get the image right before you upload, but that applies to however
you print it. I've abandoned the landfill specialists.

"JF Mezei" wrote in message
...
Tony wrote:
Have you tried using the driver software to change all the cartridges
again but
using the *same* cartrdiges? I have seen this work.


EPSON cartridges can only be inserted into te printer once. If you take
a brand new cartridge, put it in printer, then take it out and put it
back it, it will indicate 0 even though it is full.

No it won't. Epson carts have a chip that remembers the ink level so you
*can* take them out of the printer and it'll know how much ink is in the
cart when you replace it.

You need to
electronically reset the cartridge so it thinks it was never inserted
into a printer before.

That's true if you've refilled the cart.

"Dr. Dweeb" wrote in message
. dk...
Gentlemen,

I have reached the conclusion that the Epson corporation is both
incompetant and corrupt. Someone should sue their scrawny little asses.

I have an RX500 - a high end combi-device.

Today, the reading on my black ink cartridge hit zero, while the other 5
read between 23-28%
I replaced the black cartridge with a 3rd party product from Gold-Ink.

After installation the printer informed me that it was loading the ink.

I decided to print the test page.

Failure - and worse.

1: "The ink cartridge is different from Epson blah blah blah" message.
This will now appear EVERY time I try to print !!!!!!!!!!

So? That's no Epsons fault that the 3rd party inks you fitted don't identify
themselves correctly it is?

2: The device reset all 5 other cartridges to 0%

Again, not exactly Epsons fault that 3rd party inks screwed up your ink
level settings.

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