Overall reddish prints

Burt wrote:
Satoshi,

Nihonjin des-ka?

The zinc plated screws that were first used for sealing carts corroded
slightly at the tip. The zinc coating is not adequate to protect them in a
continually damp environment. I have just started to use this technique
with stainless steel screws. I think it will work well. The #6 - 1/2 inch
size is available at Ace hardware stores in a pack of 5 in SF. I use them
with very small O rings to create the seal. Ron Cohen is in the process of
finding a source for nylon or plastic screws that, with O rings, will
accomplish the same purpose and not require a screwdriver to undo. They
would have a top the you could unscrew with your fingers. They may make an
airtight seal without O rings. There is one refillable cartridge I have
seen that someone reported on this NG last week that comes from Hobbicolors
on ebay. It has a plastic 'thumb' screw that can be unscrewed with your
fingers for refilling. The set of Hobbicolors carts comes in their refill
kit and the person who posted this information also said the ink colors were
extremely close to OEM inks. They have an introductory kit that is
inexpensive and is worth the price of the carts, alone.


""Satoshi" wrote in message
...

I was the one who reported this. The idea of using plastic screw to seal the cartridge
is simple and works really well. The virgin cartridge from Hobbicolors simply works.
If you are handy and have large number of empty OEM carts go ahead to "screw them up"
and enjoy easier than ever refilling. But if you don't have enough good empty carts to
begin with I would recommend buying them from Hobbicolors. They are not expensive.
The plastic screws they use are slotted screws so you do need a slotted screw driver
to screw and unscrew them. Don't think bare fingers can do it.

Bought a smallest kit for my i960 about a year ago. I immediately bought their bulk ink
in 4 ounce bottles right after. My i960 produced just about identical colors comparing to
Canon inks printed on Kodak and Epson glossy from Costco a year ago. I now use their carts
and inks, all 8 colors, on my ip8500. The colors are just about identical to OEM when printed
on Kirkland's Swiss made glossy photopaper. The best part of this is for 6 months I have not
had any clogs. I notice that I seldom need to activate cleaning cycles. Well, the printer
does it by itself more frequent than my i960 used to do. That may have helped. Ink consumption
seems higher on my ip8500.

Hobbicolors appears to be still in a startup phase as a business. But looks like they have
sold hundreds of kits already on Ebay. Check it out on Ebay. It may take you some effort to
find their listings. Search for "refill" or "bulk" keywords.

Steve - the link is http://search.ebay.com/hobbicolors_W0QQfkrZ1QQfromZR8 .

" Stevelee" " wrote in message
...


Burt wrote:
Satoshi,

Nihonjin des-ka?

The zinc plated screws that were first used for sealing carts corroded
slightly at the tip. The zinc coating is not adequate to protect them in
a continually damp environment. I have just started to use this
technique with stainless steel screws. I think it will work well. The
#6 - 1/2 inch size is available at Ace hardware stores in a pack of 5 in
SF. I use them with very small O rings to create the seal. Ron Cohen is
in the process of finding a source for nylon or plastic screws that, with
O rings, will accomplish the same purpose and not require a screwdriver
to undo. They would have a top the you could unscrew with your fingers.
They may make an airtight seal without O rings. There is one refillable
cartridge I have seen that someone reported on this NG last week that
comes from Hobbicolors on ebay. It has a plastic 'thumb' screw that can
be unscrewed with your fingers for refilling. The set of Hobbicolors
carts comes in their refill kit and the person who posted this
information also said the ink colors were extremely close to OEM inks.
They have an introductory kit that is inexpensive and is worth the price
of the carts, alone.


""Satoshi" wrote in message
...

I was the one who reported this. The idea of using plastic screw to seal
the cartridge
is simple and works really well. The virgin cartridge from Hobbicolors
simply works.
If you are handy and have large number of empty OEM carts go ahead to
"screw them up"
and enjoy easier than ever refilling. But if you don't have enough good
empty carts to
begin with I would recommend buying them from Hobbicolors. They are not
expensive.
The plastic screws they use are slotted screws so you do need a slotted
screw driver
to screw and unscrew them. Don't think bare fingers can do it.

Bought a smallest kit for my i960 about a year ago. I immediately bought
their bulk ink
in 4 ounce bottles right after. My i960 produced just about identical
colors comparing to
Canon inks printed on Kodak and Epson glossy from Costco a year ago. I now
use their carts
and inks, all 8 colors, on my ip8500. The colors are just about identical
to OEM when printed
on Kirkland's Swiss made glossy photopaper. The best part of this is for 6
months I have not
had any clogs. I notice that I seldom need to activate cleaning cycles.
Well, the printer
does it by itself more frequent than my i960 used to do. That may have
helped. Ink consumption
seems higher on my ip8500.

Hobbicolors appears to be still in a startup phase as a business. But
looks like they have
sold hundreds of kits already on Ebay. Check it out on Ebay. It may take
you some effort to
find their listings. Search for "refill" or "bulk" keywords.

The Hobbicolors starter kit which includes virgin carts and one oz bottles
of ink costs about $16 for the i960 6 color printer. This is cheaper than
the inkjetgoodies carts, even if you were to throw the ink away! If what
you are currently using works well for you, however, I wouldn't change! The
screw technique is easier than the tiny plugs in the alotofthings carts.
Removing and replacing the screw is much easier to handle than the little
plugs, especially with rubber gloves on and a bit slippery from ink. The
down side is that you need a screwdriver to remove and replace them. Still
easier than the small plugs. Don't use the zinc plated screws, however.
Get some stainless steel ones and O rings that fit the screw pretty tight.
The O ring is the seal. For OEM carts the best plug system is from Computer
Friends. They have a blue plastic plug with a little flap that you can grip
with your fingers. They fit in the original fill hole after you punch the
plastic ball into the reservoir. They don't show them on their web site as
they are included in their refill kits. I think that if you email or call
them they will sell them to you separately. Strictly for OEM refilling. I
don't think any of the other carts have that big a fill hole in them.

Watashi-no namai-wa Burt desu. Alias wa nein-desu. Not too bad for a
gygin, Ney?

"Satoshi" wrote in message
...

Thank you Burt.

Satoshi wa pokuno alias desu.

I already looked at Hobbicolors carts. It seems that their carts are not
sold separately but altogether with inks.
I have been using carts from inkjetgoodies.com (and inks from
alotofthings). They were great.
Those carts use soft rubber plugs. I like it. So far I did not see any
leak.
I am just wondering how good the steel screws could be.

Regards,

Satoshi





"Burt" wrote in message
...
Satoshi,

Nihonjin des-ka?

The zinc plated screws that were first used for sealing carts corroded
slightly at the tip. The zinc coating is not adequate to protect them in
a continually damp environment. I have just started to use this
technique with stainless steel screws. I think it will work well. The
#6 - 1/2 inch size is available at Ace hardware stores in a pack of 5 in
SF. I use them with very small O rings to create the seal. Ron Cohen is
in the process of finding a source for nylon or plastic screws that, with
O rings, will accomplish the same purpose and not require a screwdriver
to undo. They would have a top the you could unscrew with your fingers.
They may make an airtight seal without O rings. There is one refillable
cartridge I have seen that someone reported on this NG last week that
comes from Hobbicolors on ebay. It has a plastic 'thumb' screw that can
be unscrewed with your fingers for refilling. The set of Hobbicolors
carts comes in their refill kit and the person who posted this
information also said the ink colors were extremely close to OEM inks.
They have an introductory kit that is inexpensive and is worth the price
of the carts, alone.


""Satoshi" wrote in message
...
Hi Burt,


screws regardless right size or not. The plastic screw seals better
because it
is a little flexible to be really air tight. Actual experiment will
tell.

I am interesting in plastic screw and its seal. Where can I find them.
Costco and other hardware stores now carry zinc-metal screws.

Satoshi





" Burt wrote:



I don't know what perverse pleasure Measekite got out of changing the
size of the screw in my post except to create a problem for someone
who would try this technique. The correct size for most carts witht
the small plugs is #7 -3/8. This is supposed to be a forum for
helping people with printer questions, not a place for stupid pranks.


Don't know about the size of the screw. I guess it is the square of
the siz that fits my wife. But I won't feel comfortable using metal

screws regardless right size or not. The plastic screw seals better
because it
is a little flexible to be really air tight. Actual experiment will
tell.

Alias wa nein-desu. Not too bad for a gygin, Ney?

Sounds greqat, though.

Alias wa nein-desu.
This should be read "nei-desu".
The word "nein" in your words sounds like a German: Ja or Nein in German
or Oui or Non in French.
Noboy loves French any more nowadays, huh!

I will look into Computer Friends.

Satoshi






"Burt" wrote in message
...
The Hobbicolors starter kit which includes virgin carts and one oz
bottles of ink costs about $16 for the i960 6 color printer. This is
cheaper than the inkjetgoodies carts, even if you were to throw the ink
away! If what you are currently using works well for you, however, I
wouldn't change! The screw technique is easier than the tiny plugs in the
alotofthings carts. Removing and replacing the screw is much easier to
handle than the little plugs, especially with rubber gloves on and a bit
slippery from ink. The down side is that you need a screwdriver to remove
and replace them. Still easier than the small plugs. Don't use the zinc
plated screws, however. Get some stainless steel ones and O rings that fit
the screw pretty tight. The O ring is the seal. For OEM carts the best
plug system is from Computer Friends. They have a blue plastic plug with
a little flap that you can grip with your fingers. They fit in the
original fill hole after you punch the plastic ball into the reservoir.
They don't show them on their web site as they are included in their
refill kits. I think that if you email or call them they will sell them
to you separately. Strictly for OEM refilling. I don't think any of the
other carts have that big a fill hole in them.

Watashi-no namai-wa Burt desu. Alias wa nein-desu. Not too bad for a
gygin, Ney?

"Satoshi" wrote in message
...

Thank you Burt.

Satoshi wa pokuno alias desu.

I already looked at Hobbicolors carts. It seems that their carts are
not sold separately but altogether with inks.
I have been using carts from inkjetgoodies.com (and inks from
alotofthings). They were great.
Those carts use soft rubber plugs. I like it. So far I did not see
any leak.
I am just wondering how good the steel screws could be.

Regards,

Satoshi





"Burt" wrote in message
...
Satoshi,

Nihonjin des-ka?

The zinc plated screws that were first used for sealing carts corroded
slightly at the tip. The zinc coating is not adequate to protect them
in a continually damp environment. I have just started to use this
technique with stainless steel screws. I think it will work well. The
#6 - 1/2 inch size is available at Ace hardware stores in a pack of 5 in
SF. I use them with very small O rings to create the seal. Ron Cohen
is in the process of finding a source for nylon or plastic screws that,
with O rings, will accomplish the same purpose and not require a
screwdriver to undo. They would have a top the you could unscrew with
your fingers. They may make an airtight seal without O rings. There is
one refillable cartridge I have seen that someone reported on this NG
last week that comes from Hobbicolors on ebay. It has a plastic 'thumb'
screw that can be unscrewed with your fingers for refilling. The set of
Hobbicolors carts comes in their refill kit and the person who posted
this information also said the ink colors were extremely close to OEM
inks. They have an introductory kit that is inexpensive and is worth the
price of the carts, alone.


""Satoshi" wrote in message
...
Hi Burt,


screws regardless right size or not. The plastic screw seals better
because it
is a little flexible to be really air tight. Actual experiment will
tell.

I am interesting in plastic screw and its seal. Where can I find them.
Costco and other hardware stores now carry zinc-metal screws.

Satoshi





" Burt wrote:



I don't know what perverse pleasure Measekite got out of changing
the size of the screw in my post except to create a problem for
someone who would try this technique. The correct size for most
carts witht the small plugs is #7 -3/8. This is supposed to be a
forum for helping people with printer questions, not a place for
stupid pranks.


Don't know about the size of the screw. I guess it is the square of
the siz that fits my wife. But I won't feel comfortable using metal

screws regardless right size or not. The plastic screw seals better
because it
is a little flexible to be really air tight. Actual experiment will
tell.

I only learned conversational nihon-go when living in Japan 45 years ago.
Always thought that the word sounded like Nein, but must have imagined the
"n" at the end. And you are right about French, I'll take sushi over pate
anyday.

"satoshi" wrote in message
...
Alias wa nein-desu. Not too bad for a gygin, Ney?

Sounds greqat, though.

Alias wa nein-desu.
This should be read "nei-desu".
The word "nein" in your words sounds like a German: Ja or Nein in German
or Oui or Non in French.
Noboy loves French any more nowadays, huh!

I will look into Computer Friends.

Satoshi






"Burt" wrote in message
...
The Hobbicolors starter kit which includes virgin carts and one oz
bottles of ink costs about $16 for the i960 6 color printer. This is
cheaper than the inkjetgoodies carts, even if you were to throw the ink
away! If what you are currently using works well for you, however, I
wouldn't change! The screw technique is easier than the tiny plugs in
the alotofthings carts. Removing and replacing the screw is much easier
to handle than the little plugs, especially with rubber gloves on and a
bit slippery from ink. The down side is that you need a screwdriver to
remove and replace them. Still easier than the small plugs. Don't use
the zinc plated screws, however. Get some stainless steel ones and O
rings that fit the screw pretty tight. The O ring is the seal. For OEM
carts the best plug system is from Computer Friends. They have a blue
plastic plug with a little flap that you can grip with your fingers.
They fit in the original fill hole after you punch the plastic ball into
the reservoir. They don't show them on their web site as they are
included in their refill kits. I think that if you email or call them
they will sell them to you separately. Strictly for OEM refilling. I
don't think any of the other carts have that big a fill hole in them.

Watashi-no namai-wa Burt desu. Alias wa nein-desu. Not too bad for a
gygin, Ney?

"Satoshi" wrote in message
...

Thank you Burt.

Satoshi wa pokuno alias desu.

I already looked at Hobbicolors carts. It seems that their carts are
not sold separately but altogether with inks.
I have been using carts from inkjetgoodies.com (and inks from
alotofthings). They were great.
Those carts use soft rubber plugs. I like it. So far I did not see
any leak.
I am just wondering how good the steel screws could be.

Regards,

Satoshi





"Burt" wrote in message
...
Satoshi,

Nihonjin des-ka?

The zinc plated screws that were first used for sealing carts corroded
slightly at the tip. The zinc coating is not adequate to protect them
in a continually damp environment. I have just started to use this
technique with stainless steel screws. I think it will work well. The
#6 - 1/2 inch size is available at Ace hardware stores in a pack of 5
in SF. I use them with very small O rings to create the seal. Ron
Cohen is in the process of finding a source for nylon or plastic screws
that, with O rings, will accomplish the same purpose and not require a
screwdriver to undo. They would have a top the you could unscrew with
your fingers. They may make an airtight seal without O rings. There
is one refillable cartridge I have seen that someone reported on this
NG last week that comes from Hobbicolors on ebay. It has a plastic
'thumb' screw that can be unscrewed with your fingers for refilling.
The set of Hobbicolors carts comes in their refill kit and the person
who posted this information also said the ink colors were extremely
close to OEM inks. They have an introductory kit that is inexpensive
and is worth the price of the carts, alone.


""Satoshi" wrote in message
...
Hi Burt,


screws regardless right size or not. The plastic screw seals better
because it
is a little flexible to be really air tight. Actual experiment will
tell.

I am interesting in plastic screw and its seal. Where can I find
them.
Costco and other hardware stores now carry zinc-metal screws.

Satoshi





" Burt wrote:



I don't know what perverse pleasure Measekite got out of changing
the size of the screw in my post except to create a problem for
someone who would try this technique. The correct size for most
carts witht the small plugs is #7 -3/8. This is supposed to be a
forum for helping people with printer questions, not a place for
stupid pranks.


Don't know about the size of the screw. I guess it is the square of
the siz that fits my wife. But I won't feel comfortable using metal

screws regardless right size or not. The plastic screw seals better
because it
is a little flexible to be really air tight. Actual experiment will
tell.

Burt wrote:

I only learned conversational nihon-go when living in Japan 45 years ago.
Always thought that the word sounded like Nein, but must have imagined the
"n" at the end. And you are right about French, I'll take sushi over pate
anyday.


Hmmm.... Sushi: recently swimming fish (raw). I'll pass.

Since you won't be needing your Parisian dish, Burt, can you pass the
French Fries, please. I could have some right now with a tall, sparkling
glass of French wine - or even aftermarket wine ;-) - to unclog my
nozzles. Bon apetit!

-Taliesyn (munching on Chinese sesame flavored rice crackers as we speak)

"satoshi" wrote in message
...

Alias wa nein-desu. Not too bad for a gygin, Ney?

Sounds greqat, though.


Alias wa nein-desu.

This should be read "nei-desu".
The word "nein" in your words sounds like a German: Ja or Nein in German
or Oui or Non in French.
Noboy loves French any more nowadays, huh!

I will look into Computer Friends.

Satoshi

Also some very tasty cooked fish sushi and veggie sushi available. Eel,
squid, octopus, etc. good stuff. Living in California, we rarely drink
French wines any more. We do get some good Australian and Chilean wines
also.

"Taliesyn" wrote in message
...
Burt wrote:

I only learned conversational nihon-go when living in Japan 45 years ago.
Always thought that the word sounded like Nein, but must have imagined
the "n" at the end. And you are right about French, I'll take sushi over
pate anyday.


Hmmm.... Sushi: recently swimming fish (raw). I'll pass.

Since you won't be needing your Parisian dish, Burt, can you pass the
French Fries, please. I could have some right now with a tall, sparkling
glass of French wine - or even aftermarket wine ;-) - to unclog my
nozzles. Bon apetit!

-Taliesyn (munching on Chinese sesame flavored rice crackers as we speak)

"satoshi" wrote in message
...

Alias wa nein-desu. Not too bad for a gygin, Ney?

Sounds greqat, though.


Alias wa nein-desu.

This should be read "nei-desu".
The word "nein" in your words sounds like a German: Ja or Nein in
German or Oui or Non in French.
Noboy loves French any more nowadays, huh!

I will look into Computer Friends.

Satoshi

Burt wrote:

Also some very tasty cooked fish sushi and veggie sushi available. Eel,
squid, octopus, etc. good stuff.

Stop, you're killing me! I'm going to be sick.

Living in California, we rarely drink French wines any more.
We do get some good Australian and Chilean wines also.

Napa Valley's come a long way from when they were considered
"aftermarket" wines years back? I'm not much into drinking. But I did
like a sip of infamous Newfoundland Screech (rum) after meals, from a
bottle someone once gave me. I should try to see if I can get it online.
That stuff is guaranteed to open any clogged nozzles!

-Taliesyn

I've heard sushi is pretty good if you roll it in corn meal and deep fry it.
--
Ron

"Burt" wrote in message
m...
I only learned conversational nihon-go when living in Japan 45 years ago.
Always thought that the word sounded like Nein, but must have imagined the
"n" at the end. And you are right about French, I'll take sushi over pate
anyday.

Taliesyn wrote:
Burt wrote:

I only learned conversational nihon-go when living in Japan 45 years
ago. Always thought that the word sounded like Nein, but must have
imagined the "n" at the end. And you are right about French, I'll
take sushi over pate anyday.


Hmmm.... Sushi: recently swimming fish (raw). I'll pass.

Since you won't be needing your Parisian dish, Burt, can you pass the
French Fries, please. I could have some right now with a tall, sparkling
glass of French wine - or even aftermarket wine ;-) - to unclog my
nozzles. Bon apetit!

-Taliesyn (munching on Chinese sesame flavored rice crackers as we speak)

"satoshi" wrote in message
...

Alias wa nein-desu. Not too bad for a gygin, Ney?


Sounds greqat, though.


Alias wa nein-desu.


This should be read "nei-desu".
The word "nein" in your words sounds like a German: Ja or Nein in
German or Oui or Non in French.
Noboy loves French any more nowadays, huh!

I will look into Computer Friends.

Satoshi


Seems everybody likes to mix up sushi and sashimi.
Sashimi is the raw fish.