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Old December 22nd 20, 01:56 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Bob F
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Default WDMyStore device not seen as network drive on Win 8.1

I use my 4TB older WDMyCloud drive as network storage. It works great on
my Win 7, XP, Vista PC's, but I cannot get it to work reliably on the 2
8.1 PC's I have here.

It shows up as a "Storage" device when Windows File Explorer is brought
up and "Network" clicked, and accesses the WDMyCloud's web settings page
if storage is double clicked, but does not show up as a network drive
accessible for data storage. I see all the PC's there, but not the
WDMyCloud. If I enter the WDMyCloud's IP address, 192.168.1.3, into my
browser, it easily opens the web access to the WDMyCloud's settings page.

I managed to create a shortcut on the desktop with the target
\\192.168.1.3 which does open it in the Network area as "192.168.1.3",
which does let me access the directories in it. But, I really want it to
show up when I open the file explorer. If I open another file explorer
window after using the shortcut, it still does not show.

This could relate to my adding a "Homepage" in originally trying to get
the 8.1 PC onto the network. I have since then turned that setting off
on that PC, and gone back to the previous "Workgroup" settings.

Can anyone offer any suggestions for how to get this working right? The
few references I've found online to this problem have not offered
anything that helped.

  #2  
Old December 22nd 20, 04:49 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
GlowingBlueMist[_9_]
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Default WDMyStore device not seen as network drive on Win 8.1

On 12/21/2020 6:56 PM, Bob F wrote:
I use my 4TB older WDMyCloud drive as network storage. It works great on
my Win 7, XP, Vista PC's, but I cannot get it to work reliably on the 2
8.1 PC's I have here.

It shows up as a "Storage" device when Windows File Explorer is brought
up and "Network" clicked, and accesses the WDMyCloud's web settings page
if storage is double clicked, but does not show up as a network drive
accessible for data storage. I see all the PC's there, but not the
WDMyCloud. If I enter the WDMyCloud's IP address, 192.168.1.3, into my
browser, it easily opens the web access to the WDMyCloud's settings page.

I managed to create a shortcut on the desktop with the target
\\192.168.1.3 which does open it in the Network area as "192.168.1.3",
which does let me access the directories in it. But, I really want it to
show up when I open the file explorer. If I open another file explorer
window after using the shortcut, it still does not show.

This could relate to my adding a "Homepage" in originally trying to get
the 8.1 PC onto the network. I have since then turned that setting off
on that PC, and gone back to the previous "Workgroup" settings.

Can anyone offer any suggestions for how to get this working right? The
few references I've found online to this problem have not offered
anything that helped.

Verify that the Workgroup name is configured exactly the same on both
the 8.1 PC and the WD box.

Try turning off the built in firewall on one of the problem machines, do
a reboot, and then see if the problem goes away.

If this helps, many programs as well as the Windows OS have been known
to change the firewall settings.

It takes time to go through the firewall entries to identify what the
actual problem entry is if disabling the firewall all together "fixes"
things.

Don't leave the firewall turned off after you are done testing.

  #3  
Old December 22nd 20, 01:18 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Paul[_28_]
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Default WDMyStore device not seen as network drive on Win 8.1

Bob F wrote:
I use my 4TB older WDMyCloud drive as network storage. It works great on
my Win 7, XP, Vista PC's, but I cannot get it to work reliably on the 2
8.1 PC's I have here.

It shows up as a "Storage" device when Windows File Explorer is brought
up and "Network" clicked, and accesses the WDMyCloud's web settings page
if storage is double clicked, but does not show up as a network drive
accessible for data storage. I see all the PC's there, but not the
WDMyCloud. If I enter the WDMyCloud's IP address, 192.168.1.3, into my
browser, it easily opens the web access to the WDMyCloud's settings page.

I managed to create a shortcut on the desktop with the target
\\192.168.1.3 which does open it in the Network area as "192.168.1.3",
which does let me access the directories in it. But, I really want it to
show up when I open the file explorer. If I open another file explorer
window after using the shortcut, it still does not show.

This could relate to my adding a "Homepage" in originally trying to get
the 8.1 PC onto the network. I have since then turned that setting off
on that PC, and gone back to the previous "Workgroup" settings.

Can anyone offer any suggestions for how to get this working right? The
few references I've found online to this problem have not offered
anything that helped.


Make sure these services are in running state.
These help do the NetBIOS mapping of \\bob to \\192.168.1.2 mapping.

Function Discovery Provider Host
Function Discovery Resource Publication

Since a connection was made, your SMB version is likely adequate.
If there was a WinXP box in the mix, you'd check for
the Control Panel "Programs and features" and Windows Features tab,
for SMBV1. If this is not enabled, a WinXP box will be
network-partitioned.

https://i.postimg.cc/zXWK5Y5Q/services-function-X.gif

Paul
  #4  
Old December 22nd 20, 07:25 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Bob F
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Default WDMyStore device not seen as network drive on Win 8.1

On 12/21/2020 7:49 PM, GlowingBlueMist wrote:
On 12/21/2020 6:56 PM, Bob F wrote:
I use my 4TB older WDMyCloud drive as network storage. It works great
on my Win 7, XP, Vista PC's, but I cannot get it to work reliably on
the 2 8.1 PC's I have here.

It shows up as a "Storage" device when Windows File Explorer is
brought up and "Network" clicked, and accesses the WDMyCloud's web
settings page if storage is double clicked, but does not show up as a
network drive accessible for data storage. I see all the PC's there,
but not the WDMyCloud. If I enter the WDMyCloud's IP address,
192.168.1.3, into my browser, it easily opens the web access to the
WDMyCloud's settings page.

I managed to create a shortcut on the desktop with the target
\\192.168.1.3 which does open it in the Network area as "192.168.1.3",
which does let me access the directories in it. But, I really want it
to show up when I open the file explorer. If I open another file
explorer window after using the shortcut, it still does not show.

This could relate to my adding a "Homepage" in originally trying to
get the 8.1 PC onto the network. I have since then turned that setting
off on that PC, and gone back to the previous "Workgroup" settings.

Can anyone offer any suggestions for how to get this working right?
The few references I've found online to this problem have not offered
anything that helped.

Verify that the Workgroup name is configured exactly the same on both
the 8.1 PC and the WD box.

Try turning off the built in firewall on one of the problem machines, do
a reboot, and then see if the problem goes away.

If this helps, many programs as well as the Windows OS have been known
to change the firewall settings.

It takes time to go through the firewall entries to identify what the
actual problem entry is if disabling the firewall all together "fixes"
things.

Don't leave the firewall turned off after you are done testing.


Yesterday, I read that I should try powering down the WDMyCloud and
router, then power up the router followed a bit later with the
WDMyCloud. I tried doing that, and after that my previously working Win
7 PC no longer worked properly either. The win 8.1 did not change. I
wanted to re-boot the Win 7 PC then, but had a recording going I didn't
want to interrupt, so I went to bed.

This morning, I rebooted the Win 7 PC, but it still did not show the
WDMyCloud properly. An hour later, I looked at it again, and the
WDMyCloud was there just like it worked before the problem. I then
checked both Win 8.1 PCs, and they showed the WDMyCloud drive properly.

So, problem solved for the moment anyway. Rebooting the device and
router followed by a long wait may be the solution.

  #5  
Old December 22nd 20, 07:57 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Paul[_28_]
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Default WDMyStore device not seen as network drive on Win 8.1

Bob F wrote:
On 12/21/2020 7:49 PM, GlowingBlueMist wrote:
On 12/21/2020 6:56 PM, Bob F wrote:
I use my 4TB older WDMyCloud drive as network storage. It works great
on my Win 7, XP, Vista PC's, but I cannot get it to work reliably on
the 2 8.1 PC's I have here.

It shows up as a "Storage" device when Windows File Explorer is
brought up and "Network" clicked, and accesses the WDMyCloud's web
settings page if storage is double clicked, but does not show up as a
network drive accessible for data storage. I see all the PC's there,
but not the WDMyCloud. If I enter the WDMyCloud's IP address,
192.168.1.3, into my browser, it easily opens the web access to the
WDMyCloud's settings page.

I managed to create a shortcut on the desktop with the target
\\192.168.1.3 which does open it in the Network area as
"192.168.1.3", which does let me access the directories in it. But, I
really want it to show up when I open the file explorer. If I open
another file explorer window after using the shortcut, it still does
not show.

This could relate to my adding a "Homepage" in originally trying to
get the 8.1 PC onto the network. I have since then turned that
setting off on that PC, and gone back to the previous "Workgroup"
settings.

Can anyone offer any suggestions for how to get this working right?
The few references I've found online to this problem have not offered
anything that helped.

Verify that the Workgroup name is configured exactly the same on both
the 8.1 PC and the WD box.

Try turning off the built in firewall on one of the problem machines,
do a reboot, and then see if the problem goes away.

If this helps, many programs as well as the Windows OS have been known
to change the firewall settings.

It takes time to go through the firewall entries to identify what the
actual problem entry is if disabling the firewall all together "fixes"
things.

Don't leave the firewall turned off after you are done testing.


Yesterday, I read that I should try powering down the WDMyCloud and
router, then power up the router followed a bit later with the
WDMyCloud. I tried doing that, and after that my previously working Win
7 PC no longer worked properly either. The win 8.1 did not change. I
wanted to re-boot the Win 7 PC then, but had a recording going I didn't
want to interrupt, so I went to bed.

This morning, I rebooted the Win 7 PC, but it still did not show the
WDMyCloud properly. An hour later, I looked at it again, and the
WDMyCloud was there just like it worked before the problem. I then
checked both Win 8.1 PCs, and they showed the WDMyCloud drive properly.

So, problem solved for the moment anyway. Rebooting the device and
router followed by a long wait may be the solution.


That means there is a network browser problem.

Nodes on the LAN, compete in Browser elections, to see
who gets to be Browse Master. This happens on time scales of
15 minutes per election. It might take several periods
for a troubled network to settle down.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Browser_service

Wireshark can record Network Browser flavored packets.
They're typically colored gray. And you may see a clump
of three or four of them, then silence for quite a while.

And we know who is non-compliant, right ? The MyCloud.
I would be checking to see what updates are available
for the unit.

I think it might have been the first time I had Windows 7
on my network (and everyone was workgroup=WORKGROUP),
that I seemed to have a network browser problem, because
things would not work for 15 minutes or 30 minutes,
long periods of time like that. And then maybe two nodes
at random could see one another.

If you want to scan the LAN segment for participants,
you can use this. It will record things in more than
one workgroup, such as a network split with some MSHOME
nodes and some WORKGROUP nodes.

This is a scan of the two machines normally running on my LAN.
BOB is the machine I type on. The /24 means "scan the 256
addresses on this larger space". Using numbers smaller than
24, scans larger and larger chunks.

Your WDC product *should* respond.

http://www.unixwiz.net/tools/nbtscan.html

http://www.unixwiz.net/tools/nbtscan-1.0.35.exe

nbtscan 192.168.1.0/24

192.168.1.101 WORKGROUP\BOB SHARING
192.168.1.102 WORKGROUP\BLUEWAVE SHARING
*timeout (normal end of scan)

Paul
  #6  
Old December 22nd 20, 08:19 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Bob F
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Posts: 153
Default WDMyStore device not seen as network drive on Win 8.1

On 12/22/2020 4:18 AM, Paul wrote:
Bob F wrote:
I use my 4TB older WDMyCloud drive as network storage. It works great
on my Win 7, XP, Vista PC's, but I cannot get it to work reliably on
the 2 8.1 PC's I have here.

It shows up as a "Storage" device when Windows File Explorer is
brought up and "Network" clicked, and accesses the WDMyCloud's web
settings page if storage is double clicked, but does not show up as a
network drive accessible for data storage. I see all the PC's there,
but not the WDMyCloud. If I enter the WDMyCloud's IP address,
192.168.1.3, into my browser, it easily opens the web access to the
WDMyCloud's settings page.

I managed to create a shortcut on the desktop with the target
\\192.168.1.3 which does open it in the Network area as "192.168.1.3",
which does let me access the directories in it. But, I really want it
to show up when I open the file explorer. If I open another file
explorer window after using the shortcut, it still does not show.

This could relate to my adding a "Homepage" in originally trying to
get the 8.1 PC onto the network. I have since then turned that setting
off on that PC, and gone back to the previous "Workgroup" settings.

Can anyone offer any suggestions for how to get this working right?
The few references I've found online to this problem have not offered
anything that helped.


Make sure these services are in running state.
These help do the NetBIOS mapping of \\bob to \\192.168.1.2 mapping.

Â*Â* Function Discovery Provider Host
Â*Â* Function Discovery Resource Publication

Since a connection was made, your SMB version is likely adequate.
If there was a WinXP box in the mix, you'd check for
the Control Panel "Programs and features" and Windows Features tab,
for SMBV1. If this is not enabled, a WinXP box will be
network-partitioned.

https://i.postimg.cc/zXWK5Y5Q/services-function-X.gif

Â*Â* Paul


I appreciate the XP suggestion and stored a copy. Thanks.

Bob

  #7  
Old December 24th 20, 05:10 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Bob F
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Posts: 153
Default WDMyStore device not seen as network drive on Win 8.1

On 12/22/2020 10:57 AM, Paul wrote:
Bob F wrote:
On 12/21/2020 7:49 PM, GlowingBlueMist wrote:
On 12/21/2020 6:56 PM, Bob F wrote:
I use my 4TB older WDMyCloud drive as network storage. It works
great on my Win 7, XP, Vista PC's, but I cannot get it to work
reliably on the 2 8.1 PC's I have here.

It shows up as a "Storage" device when Windows File Explorer is
brought up and "Network" clicked, and accesses the WDMyCloud's web
settings page if storage is double clicked, but does not show up as
a network drive accessible for data storage. I see all the PC's
there, but not the WDMyCloud. If I enter the WDMyCloud's IP address,
192.168.1.3, into my browser, it easily opens the web access to the
WDMyCloud's settings page.

I managed to create a shortcut on the desktop with the target
\\192.168.1.3 which does open it in the Network area as
"192.168.1.3", which does let me access the directories in it. But,
I really want it to show up when I open the file explorer. If I open
another file explorer window after using the shortcut, it still does
not show.

This could relate to my adding a "Homepage" in originally trying to
get the 8.1 PC onto the network. I have since then turned that
setting off on that PC, and gone back to the previous "Workgroup"
settings.

Can anyone offer any suggestions for how to get this working right?
The few references I've found online to this problem have not
offered anything that helped.

Verify that the Workgroup name is configured exactly the same on both
the 8.1 PC and the WD box.

Try turning off the built in firewall on one of the problem machines,
do a reboot, and then see if the problem goes away.

If this helps, many programs as well as the Windows OS have been
known to change the firewall settings.

It takes time to go through the firewall entries to identify what the
actual problem entry is if disabling the firewall all together
"fixes" things.

Don't leave the firewall turned off after you are done testing.


Yesterday, I read that I should try powering down the WDMyCloud and
router, then power up the router followed a bit later with the
WDMyCloud. I tried doing that, and after that my previously working
Win 7 PC no longer worked properly either. The win 8.1 did not change.
I wanted to re-boot the Win 7 PC then, but had a recording going I
didn't want to interrupt, so I went to bed.

This morning, I rebooted the Win 7 PC, but it still did not show the
WDMyCloud properly. An hour later, I looked at it again, and the
WDMyCloud was there just like it worked before the problem. I then
checked both Win 8.1 PCs, and they showed the WDMyCloud drive properly.

So, problem solved for the moment anyway. Rebooting the device and
router followed by a long wait may be the solution.


That means there is a network browser problem.

Nodes on the LAN, compete in Browser elections, to see
who gets to be Browse Master. This happens on time scales of
15 minutes per election. It might take several periods
for a troubled network to settle down.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Browser_service

Wireshark can record Network Browser flavored packets.
They're typically colored gray. And you may see a clump
of three or four of them, then silence for quite a while.

And we know who is non-compliant, right ? The MyCloud.
I would be checking to see what updates are available
for the unit.

I think it might have been the first time I had Windows 7
on my network (and everyone was workgroup=WORKGROUP),
that I seemed to have a network browser problem, because
things would not work for 15 minutes or 30 minutes,
long periods of time like that. And then maybe two nodes
at random could see one another.

If you want to scan the LAN segment for participants,
you can use this. It will record things in more than
one workgroup, such as a network split with some MSHOME
nodes and some WORKGROUP nodes.

This is a scan of the two machines normally running on my LAN.
BOB is the machine I type on. The /24 means "scan the 256
addresses on this larger space". Using numbers smaller than
24, scans larger and larger chunks.

Your WDC product *should* respond.

http://www.unixwiz.net/tools/nbtscan.html

Â*Â* http://www.unixwiz.net/tools/nbtscan-1.0.35.exe

Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* nbtscan 192.168.1.0/24

Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* 192.168.1.101Â*Â* WORKGROUP\BOBÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* SHARING
Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* 192.168.1.102Â*Â* WORKGROUP\BLUEWAVEÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* SHARING
Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* *timeout (normal end of scan)

Â*Â* Paul


Got it. Everything looks good on a scan now. I will use this again if
the problem recurs.

Thanks

Bob

  #8  
Old January 16th 21, 06:48 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Bob F
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Posts: 153
Default WDMyStore device not seen as network drive on Win 8.1

On 12/21/2020 4:56 PM, Bob F wrote:
I use my 4TB older WDMyCloud drive as network storage. It works great on
my Win 7, XP, Vista PC's, but I cannot get it to work reliably on the 2
8.1 PC's I have here.

It shows up as a "Storage" device when Windows File Explorer is brought
up and "Network" clicked, and accesses the WDMyCloud's web settings page
if storage is double clicked, but does not show up as a network drive
accessible for data storage. I see all the PC's there, but not the
WDMyCloud. If I enter the WDMyCloud's IP address, 192.168.1.3, into my
browser, it easily opens the web access to the WDMyCloud's settings page.

I managed to create a shortcut on the desktop with the target
\\192.168.1.3 which does open it in the Network area as "192.168.1.3",
which does let me access the directories in it. But, I really want it to
show up when I open the file explorer. If I open another file explorer
window after using the shortcut, it still does not show.

This could relate to my adding a "Homepage" in originally trying to get
the 8.1 PC onto the network. I have since then turned that setting off
on that PC, and gone back to the previous "Workgroup" settings.

Can anyone offer any suggestions for how to get this working right? The
few references I've found online to this problem have not offered
anything that helped.


The problem on 1 of the Win 8.1 PC's spontaneously re-occurs. It was
gone the last couple of days, and is back today. What the heck?
  #9  
Old January 16th 21, 07:10 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Paul[_28_]
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Posts: 1,467
Default WDMyStore device not seen as network drive on Win 8.1

Bob F wrote:
On 12/21/2020 4:56 PM, Bob F wrote:
I use my 4TB older WDMyCloud drive as network storage. It works great
on my Win 7, XP, Vista PC's, but I cannot get it to work reliably on
the 2 8.1 PC's I have here.

It shows up as a "Storage" device when Windows File Explorer is
brought up and "Network" clicked, and accesses the WDMyCloud's web
settings page if storage is double clicked, but does not show up as a
network drive accessible for data storage. I see all the PC's there,
but not the WDMyCloud. If I enter the WDMyCloud's IP address,
192.168.1.3, into my browser, it easily opens the web access to the
WDMyCloud's settings page.

I managed to create a shortcut on the desktop with the target
\\192.168.1.3 which does open it in the Network area as "192.168.1.3",
which does let me access the directories in it. But, I really want it
to show up when I open the file explorer. If I open another file
explorer window after using the shortcut, it still does not show.

This could relate to my adding a "Homepage" in originally trying to
get the 8.1 PC onto the network. I have since then turned that setting
off on that PC, and gone back to the previous "Workgroup" settings.

Can anyone offer any suggestions for how to get this working right?
The few references I've found online to this problem have not offered
anything that helped.


The problem on 1 of the Win 8.1 PC's spontaneously re-occurs. It was
gone the last couple of days, and is back today. What the heck?


Related to a recent Windows Update ?

Paul
  #10  
Old January 16th 21, 08:29 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Bob F
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Posts: 153
Default WDMyStore device not seen as network drive on Win 8.1

On 1/16/2021 10:10 AM, Paul wrote:
Bob F wrote:
On 12/21/2020 4:56 PM, Bob F wrote:
I use my 4TB older WDMyCloud drive as network storage. It works great
on my Win 7, XP, Vista PC's, but I cannot get it to work reliably on
the 2 8.1 PC's I have here.

It shows up as a "Storage" device when Windows File Explorer is
brought up and "Network" clicked, and accesses the WDMyCloud's web
settings page if storage is double clicked, but does not show up as a
network drive accessible for data storage. I see all the PC's there,
but not the WDMyCloud. If I enter the WDMyCloud's IP address,
192.168.1.3, into my browser, it easily opens the web access to the
WDMyCloud's settings page.

I managed to create a shortcut on the desktop with the target
\\192.168.1.3 which does open it in the Network area as
"192.168.1.3", which does let me access the directories in it. But, I
really want it to show up when I open the file explorer. If I open
another file explorer window after using the shortcut, it still does
not show.

This could relate to my adding a "Homepage" in originally trying to
get the 8.1 PC onto the network. I have since then turned that
setting off on that PC, and gone back to the previous "Workgroup"
settings.

Can anyone offer any suggestions for how to get this working right?
The few references I've found online to this problem have not offered
anything that helped.


The problem on 1 of the Win 8.1 PC's spontaneously re-occurs. It was
gone the last couple of days, and is back today. What the heck?


Related to a recent Windows Update ?

Â*Â* Paul


No recent updates have been installed.
 




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