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GA-EP35C-DSR3 with dif. memory mdoules



 
 
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Old November 9th 09, 08:03 PM posted to alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.gigabyte
Michael Fritz
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Default GA-EP35C-DSR3 with dif. memory mdoules

Hi,

I'm trying to get the following memory modules running on my GA-EP35C-DSR3
board:
2 x 1 GB OCZ2G8002GK (Platinum Edition, PC2 6400, )
and
2 x 1 GB OCZP800R22GK (Gold Edition, PC2 6400, ).

The CPU is not over clocked nor the memory, however I'm getting some
strange CRC failures during the installation of e.g. large update files for
games in Windows XP Pro.

I've tested the memory with Memtest86 and all seems to be OK, at least no
errors where indicated.

Perhaps I've got some timing problems with this memory. When removing one
pair, all runs well!

Any advice if I can use those memory modules altogether on my board or
perhaps it isn't possible at all.
--
cu,
Michael

--
cu,
Michael
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Old November 9th 09, 10:31 PM posted to alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.gigabyte
Joe[_28_]
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Default GA-EP35C-DSR3 with dif. memory mdoules

Michael Fritz wrote:
Hi,

I'm trying to get the following memory modules running on my GA-EP35C-DSR3
board:
2 x 1 GB OCZ2G8002GK (Platinum Edition, PC2 6400, )
and
2 x 1 GB OCZP800R22GK (Gold Edition, PC2 6400, ).

The CPU is not over clocked nor the memory, however I'm getting some
strange CRC failures during the installation of e.g. large update files for
games in Windows XP Pro.

I've tested the memory with Memtest86 and all seems to be OK, at least no
errors where indicated.

Perhaps I've got some timing problems with this memory. When removing one
pair, all runs well!

Any advice if I can use those memory modules altogether on my board or
perhaps it isn't possible at all.

You should not be using different memory modules. Thats just asking for
trouble and you got it. Best thing is to pick a pair and buy another
pair just like it.
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Old November 10th 09, 04:22 AM posted to alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.gigabyte
Barry Watzman
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Default GA-EP35C-DSR3 with dif. memory mdoules

This is one possibility. Note POSSIBILITY. And only that.

You may have modules paired wrong, so that you have one module of each
type on the same channel (instead of having each channel comprised of a
pair of identical modules). Verify the configuration with the manual,
or TRY swapping two modules of different types.


Michael Fritz wrote:
Hi,

I'm trying to get the following memory modules running on my GA-EP35C-DSR3
board:
2 x 1 GB OCZ2G8002GK (Platinum Edition, PC2 6400, )
and
2 x 1 GB OCZP800R22GK (Gold Edition, PC2 6400, ).

The CPU is not over clocked nor the memory, however I'm getting some
strange CRC failures during the installation of e.g. large update files for
games in Windows XP Pro.

I've tested the memory with Memtest86 and all seems to be OK, at least no
errors where indicated.

Perhaps I've got some timing problems with this memory. When removing one
pair, all runs well!

Any advice if I can use those memory modules altogether on my board or
perhaps it isn't possible at all.

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Old November 11th 09, 09:38 AM posted to alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.gigabyte
Michael Fritz
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Default GA-EP35C-DSR3 with dif. memory mdoules

Am Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:22:17 -0500 schrieb Barry Watzman:

pair of identical modules). Verify the configuration with the manual,
or TRY swapping two modules of different types.

I've now swapped the modules. Now the pairs do not match in types but it
seems to work better and without any problems so far.

Thanks for this tip!

--
cu
Michael
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Old November 11th 09, 05:56 PM posted to alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.gigabyte
Barry Watzman
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Default GA-EP35C-DSR3 with dif. memory mdoules

I think your statement ("Now the pairs do not match in types") is
probably wrong, based on "but it seems to work better and without any
problems". I think that now the pairs DO match; I suspect that you
mis-understand how the sockets are color coded.

The problem is, there are two ways to color code the sockets.

When you have dual channel memory (channel A and channel B), you want to
put one module of a pair in EACH channel; you do NOT want to put both
modules of the pair in the SAME channel.

E.G., as an example, say you have two channels (channel A & B). Each
channel has two sockets, socket 1 and socket 2. And the motherboard
mfgr. has color coded the sockets (2 are yellow and two are orange).
You have 4 memory modules, two modules of 512MB and two modules of
256MB. What you want is:

A1 - 512MB
B1 - 512MB
A2 - 256MB
B2 - 256MB

[yes, it would also work if you reversed the 256 & 512 modules]

The confusion comes in because some motherboard mfgrs. color code the
sockets so that all of the channel A sockets are one color and all of
the channel B sockets are the other color. So, in this case, sockets A1
and A2 would be one color, sockets B1 and B2 would be the other color.

But that means that the identical modules go in DIFFERENT color sockets.
Which confuses a lot of people.

Recognizing this, other motherboard mfgrs. color code the sockets so
that sockets getting the memory pairs are the same color. In which
case, sockets A1 and B1 would be one color (even though they are
DIFFERENT channels), and sockets A2 and B2 would be the other color.

This is very, very confusing. Because the sockets can be color coded in
either of two ways, and because different motherboards do in fact color
code them both ways, the color coding of the sockets becomes,
essentially, useless. THERE IS NO SUBSTITUTE FOR READING THE MANUAL AND
UNDERSTANDING WHAT IS GOING ON. You simply cannot rely on the color
coding of the sockets unless you are absolutely certain that you
understand what the motherboard manufacturer did.

[And, in fact, very few users understand how this is supposed to work;
many users think that if they have a pair of modules, both modules of
the identical pair go in the same channel. WRONG !! One module of the
pair goes in one channel, and the other module of the pair goes in the
OTHER channel (not the same channel).]


Michael Fritz wrote:
Am Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:22:17 -0500 schrieb Barry Watzman:

pair of identical modules). Verify the configuration with the manual,
or TRY swapping two modules of different types.

I've now swapped the modules. Now the pairs do not match in types but it
seems to work better and without any problems so far.

Thanks for this tip!

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Old November 13th 09, 11:30 AM posted to alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.gigabyte
Michael Fritz
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Default GA-EP35C-DSR3 with dif. memory mdoules

Am Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:56:29 -0500 schrieb Barry Watzman:

But that means that the identical modules go in DIFFERENT color sockets.
Which confuses a lot of people.

That's it - and to be honest I didn't know this before you clarified
things.

Thanks Barry for your time and explanation - highly appreciated!

--
cu
Michael
 




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