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HP Photosmart B209a
My son bought a new, in the box HP Photosmart B209a for $10 at a garage
sale. The scanner works fine, the printer won't print using the black 546 cartridge unless the 3 color cartridges are installed. I have no desire to buy color cartridges so I'm asking if there is a workaround. HP obviously wants me to buy the ink. Even though I select Black Only Greyscale in the HP Device Manager print settings, the documents just sit in the queue. "Device busy" If there is no workaround, then I have a very large, heavy scanner. |
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HP Photosmart B209a
From: "Stumpy"
My son bought a new, in the box HP Photosmart B209a for $10 at a garage sale. The scanner works fine, the printer won't print using the black 546 cartridge unless the 3 color cartridges are installed. I have no desire to buy color cartridges so I'm asking if there is a workaround. HP obviously wants me to buy the ink. Even though I select Black Only Greyscale in the HP Device Manager print settings, the documents just sit in the queue. "Device busy" If there is no workaround, then I have a very large, heavy scanner. Seriously ? You get a printer for $10.00 and you won't buy the ink for it ? ROFLOL -- Dave Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp |
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HP Photosmart B209a
On 10/14/2014 06:46 PM, David H. Lipman wrote:
From: "Stumpy" My son bought a new, in the box HP Photosmart B209a for $10 at a garage sale. The scanner works fine, the printer won't print using the black 546 cartridge unless the 3 color cartridges are installed. I have no desire to buy color cartridges so I'm asking if there is a workaround. HP obviously wants me to buy the ink. Even though I select Black Only Greyscale in the HP Device Manager print settings, the documents just sit in the queue. "Device busy" If there is no workaround, then I have a very large, heavy scanner. Seriously ? You get a printer for $10.00 and you won't buy the ink for it ? ROFLOL I'll buy black cartridges for as long as it works, will never print color on it. |
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HP Photosmart B209a
Stumpy wrote:
My son bought a new, in the box HP Photosmart B209a for $10 at a garage sale. The scanner works fine, the printer won't print using the black 546 cartridge unless the 3 color cartridges are installed. I have no desire to buy color cartridges so I'm asking if there is a workaround. HP obviously wants me to buy the ink. Even though I select Black Only Greyscale in the HP Device Manager print settings, the documents just sit in the queue. "Device busy" If there is no workaround, then I have a very large, heavy scanner. My understanding is that this printer uses a printhead with separate ink cartridges. The printer is therefore quite correctly designed to not operate if any of the cartridges are empty or missng. This is to protect the printhead which would otherwise permanently fail. Printheads need lubrication and/or cooling; this comes from the ink. No workaround is possible without in depth and serious electronic skills. There is no subterfuge in this approach by HP with whom I have no affiliation. Tony |
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HP Photosmart B209a
On 10/15/2014 03:05 AM, Tony wrote:
My son bought a new, in the box HP Photosmart B209a for $10 at a garage sale. The scanner works fine, the printer won't print using the black 546 cartridge unless the 3 color cartridges are installed. I have no desire to buy color cartridges so I'm asking if there is a workaround. HP obviously wants me to buy the ink. Even though I select Black Only Greyscale in the HP Device Manager print settings, the documents just sit in the queue. "Device busy" If there is no workaround, then I have a very large, heavy scanner. My understanding is that this printer uses a printhead with separate ink cartridges. The printer is therefore quite correctly designed to not operate if any of the cartridges are empty or missng. This is to protect the printhead which would otherwise permanently fail. Printheads need lubrication and/or cooling; this comes from the ink. No workaround is possible without in depth and serious electronic skills. There is no subterfuge in this approach by HP with whom I have no affiliation. Our OfficeJet 7135 has *separate* printheads for each color but nevertheless will not print black if a whole set of working color cartridges is not present -- and I haven't found any aftermarket cartridges (#14) or anyone who will refill them. Why would the color printheads need cooling if they are not activated (as in printing only black)? A distant relative by marriage who used to work for HP's printer division said that they made a fortune out of the ink cartridges. We just bought an Epson all-in-one that has refillable cartridges. Perce |
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HP Photosmart B209a
From: "Stumpy"
On 10/14/2014 06:46 PM, David H. Lipman wrote: From: "Stumpy" My son bought a new, in the box HP Photosmart B209a for $10 at a garage sale. The scanner works fine, the printer won't print using the black 546 cartridge unless the 3 color cartridges are installed. I have no desire to buy color cartridges so I'm asking if there is a workaround. HP obviously wants me to buy the ink. Even though I select Black Only Greyscale in the HP Device Manager print settings, the documents just sit in the queue. "Device busy" If there is no workaround, then I have a very large, heavy scanner. Seriously ? You get a printer for $10.00 and you won't buy the ink for it ? ROFLOL I'll buy black cartridges for as long as it works, will never print color on it. So... Buy the colour ink and print B&W. Still will be a B&W printer less than $50.00. -- Dave Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp |
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HP Photosmart B209a
My understanding is that this printer uses a printhead with separate ink
cartridges. The printer is therefore quite correctly designed to not operate if any of the cartridges are empty or missng. This is to protect the printhead which would otherwise permanently fail. Printheads need lubrication and/or cooling; this comes from the ink. No workaround is possible without in depth and serious electronic skills. There is no subterfuge in this approach by HP with whom I have no affiliation. Tony Thanks for the info. I am reluctant to invest much in a machine that has so many 1star reviews on Amazon. I'm out $10 for ink, my son is out $10 for a scanner. |
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HP Photosmart B209a
"Percival P. Cassidy" wrote in message ... On 10/15/2014 03:05 AM, Tony wrote: My son bought a new, in the box HP Photosmart B209a for $10 at a garage sale. The scanner works fine, the printer won't print using the black 546 cartridge unless the 3 color cartridges are installed. I have no desire to buy color cartridges so I'm asking if there is a workaround. HP obviously wants me to buy the ink. Even though I select Black Only Greyscale in the HP Device Manager print settings, the documents just sit in the queue. "Device busy" If there is no workaround, then I have a very large, heavy scanner. My understanding is that this printer uses a printhead with separate ink cartridges. The printer is therefore quite correctly designed to not operate if any of the cartridges are empty or missng. This is to protect the printhead which would otherwise permanently fail. Printheads need lubrication and/or cooling; this comes from the ink. No workaround is possible without in depth and serious electronic skills. There is no subterfuge in this approach by HP with whom I have no affiliation. Our OfficeJet 7135 has *separate* printheads for each color but nevertheless will not print black if a whole set of working color cartridges is not present -- and I haven't found any aftermarket cartridges (#14) or anyone who will refill them. Why would the color printheads need cooling if they are not activated (as in printing only black)? A distant relative by marriage who used to work for HP's printer division said that they made a fortune out of the ink cartridges. We just bought an Epson all-in-one that has refillable cartridges. Perce I am suspicious that it is mostly self interest that causes them to put in that interlock. |
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HP Photosmart B209a
"Percival P. Cassidy" wrote:
On 10/15/2014 03:05 AM, Tony wrote: My son bought a new, in the box HP Photosmart B209a for $10 at a garage sale. The scanner works fine, the printer won't print using the black 546 cartridge unless the 3 color cartridges are installed. I have no desire to buy color cartridges so I'm asking if there is a workaround. HP obviously wants me to buy the ink. Even though I select Black Only Greyscale in the HP Device Manager print settings, the documents just sit in the queue. "Device busy" If there is no workaround, then I have a very large, heavy scanner. My understanding is that this printer uses a printhead with separate ink cartridges. The printer is therefore quite correctly designed to not operate if any of the cartridges are empty or missng. This is to protect the printhead which would otherwise permanently fail. Printheads need lubrication and/or cooling; this comes from the ink. No workaround is possible without in depth and serious electronic skills. There is no subterfuge in this approach by HP with whom I have no affiliation. Our OfficeJet 7135 has *separate* printheads for each color but nevertheless will not print black if a whole set of working color cartridges is not present -- and I haven't found any aftermarket cartridges (#14) or anyone who will refill them. Why would the color printheads need cooling if they are not activated (as in printing only black)? They don't. If each cartridge has a built in printhead then we are talking about a very different matter and I cannot think of a technical reason why printing would be suspended if colour cartridges are not present except that many ink printers enhance black prints with colour. Maybe the manufacturer wants to keep the print quality "as designed". The response I made was specifically for printers with separate ink tanks and printheads. A distant relative by marriage who used to work for HP's printer division said that they made a fortune out of the ink cartridges. The business model followed by most, perhaps all, printer manufacturers for the entry level to mid range marketplace is to almost give the printer away and charge heavily for the ink or toner. This model was started I believe by Gillette with their safety razors (cheap razor, expensive blades). HP are not alone in this by any means. Aftermarket ink cartridges are available for many printers (I'm not getting into the argument about relative quality here) so the consumer usually has a choice. Some manufacturers make their printers detect aftermarket cartridges and either refuse to work with them or make it a pain to do so. I believe this is illegal in Europe now but maybe not in the US??? [Snip} Tony |
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HP Photosmart B209a
From: "Tony" lizandtony at orcon dot net dot nz
"Percival P. Cassidy" wrote: On 10/15/2014 03:05 AM, Tony wrote: My son bought a new, in the box HP Photosmart B209a for $10 at a garage sale. The scanner works fine, the printer won't print using the black 546 cartridge unless the 3 color cartridges are installed. I have no desire to buy color cartridges so I'm asking if there is a workaround. HP obviously wants me to buy the ink. Even though I select Black Only Greyscale in the HP Device Manager print settings, the documents just sit in the queue. "Device busy" If there is no workaround, then I have a very large, heavy scanner. My understanding is that this printer uses a printhead with separate ink cartridges. The printer is therefore quite correctly designed to not operate if any of the cartridges are empty or missng. This is to protect the printhead which would otherwise permanently fail. Printheads need lubrication and/or cooling; this comes from the ink. No workaround is possible without in depth and serious electronic skills. There is no subterfuge in this approach by HP with whom I have no affiliation. Our OfficeJet 7135 has *separate* printheads for each color but nevertheless will not print black if a whole set of working color cartridges is not present -- and I haven't found any aftermarket cartridges (#14) or anyone who will refill them. Why would the color printheads need cooling if they are not activated (as in printing only black)? They don't. If each cartridge has a built in printhead then we are talking about a very different matter and I cannot think of a technical reason why printing would be suspended if colour cartridges are not present except that many ink printers enhance black prints with colour. Maybe the manufacturer wants to keep the print quality "as designed". The response I made was specifically for printers with separate ink tanks and printheads. A distant relative by marriage who used to work for HP's printer division said that they made a fortune out of the ink cartridges. The business model followed by most, perhaps all, printer manufacturers for the entry level to mid range marketplace is to almost give the printer away and charge heavily for the ink or toner. This model was started I believe by Gillette with their safety razors (cheap razor, expensive blades). HP are not alone in this by any means. Aftermarket ink cartridges are available for many printers (I'm not getting into the argument about relative quality here) so the consumer usually has a choice. Some manufacturers make their printers detect aftermarket cartridges and either refuse to work with them or make it a pain to do so. I believe this is illegal in Europe now but maybe not in the US??? [Snip} Tony I think the real problem with ink cart. sales is that the normal ink cart. is only half filled. They then charge a premium to buy a full ink cart. Then there is the environmental impact. People will tend to buy the half filled ink carts to save money. The consumer then ends up throwing away twice as much packaging material. -- Dave Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp |
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