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Newbie - Best Capture Settings?
I'm trying to convert Hi-8 video to DVD and have grown disappointed so far
with the results that I'm receiving when i author to DVD. Here's my configuration P4 2 ghz, ATI AIW 8500 card I use Virtual Dub to capture the video Tmpgenc to convert avi-mpg and DVD Movie Factory to create the dvds When I capture at 720*480, the fast-moving scenes (such as my son playing soccer) are very "jaggy" This is with and without using Huffyuv 2.1.1 compression - i'm not using other compression schemes - and with viewing the AVI itself - not even looking at what Tmpgenc does with the video When I capture at 320*240, the "jaggieness" disappears but the images are softer - in the AVI So, to improve the quality of the video capture 1. Is the card the problem? 2. If not the card, what would be the best video capture settings to use? Thanks |
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On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 15:43:47 -0400, "T-nospam-D"
wrote: When I capture at 720*480, the fast-moving scenes (such as my son playing soccer) are very "jaggy" This is with and without using Huffyuv 2.1.1 compression - i'm not using other compression schemes - and with viewing the AVI itself - not even looking at what Tmpgenc does with the video That's how interlaced video looks on a monitor. Don't worry about it, you won't see those jaggies on your TV. http://nickyguides.digital-digest.com/interlace.htm http://www.inwards.com/~dbb/interlace_myths.html When I capture at 320*240, the "jaggieness" disappears but the images are softer - in the AVI That's because 320x240 is not interlaced. But keep the high resolution. Use TMPGEnc's project wizard to encode the AVI to DVD MPEG-2 format. It should look fine on your TV. |
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On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:28:05 -0400, "T-nospam-D"
wrote: Thanks for the reply I used Vdub to capture the avi - now the question is about interlacing i could use the filter/deinterlace setting in vdub - when i do this, the pictures 'smooth' out. i've also tried to use the 'interlace' function in tmpgenc but it doesn't seem the to change the video image... Note, i go the next step, author it to dvd and view it on a tv rather than a pc monitor to confirm my findings... Don't deinterlace your video. You won't see those horizontal lines on your TV. Just ignore them when you're previewing the video on your monitor. If you deinterlace your AVI file, you'll get worse motion clarity on your TV. http://www.geocities.com/victorfilmgroup/vidfilm1.htm erratic, you've been a huge help so far - using vdub & tmpgenc (w/hufyuv compression yuy2) what other configuration settings would you recommend? You're on the right track. If you convert your interlaced AVI files to DVD MPEG-2 with TMPGEnc, I suggest you use the Project Wizard. It will take care of most settings automatically. The field order is very important when converting AVI to MPEG-2. TMPGEnc will determine the correct field order automatically if you use the Project Wizard. For fine tuning TMPGEnc's settings, read this: http://dvd-hq.info/Compression.html |
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i'll review the fine tuning for vdub, but this is where i kind of started
i didn't deinterlace w/vdub (or change other setting with the exception of compression) i used the project wizard w/tmpgenc (didn't change a thing) i authored w/dvd movie factory and played it on the tv, it looked awful so what i'll do is review the doc, fine tune vdub As for Tmpgenc/project wizard For the first panel, I should - select DVD/NTSC/ CBR MPEG-1 Layer II Audio (MP2) - correct? or should i use VBR or PCM audio? on the next panel, - select AVI file, - Select Video type as "Interlace" rather than "Non-Interlace", - Then either Top or Bottom field first (?) - Aspect ratio 4:3 525 Line (NTSC...) - content of video - Video Movie on the subsequent panel - filter settings, - don't select anything? or go to the Other settings? then Advanced settings and select the filters? There's quite a few like "Source Range", "Inverse Telecine", etc in reading the earlier message, http://nickyguides.digital-digest.com/interlace.htm it mentions Bobbing vs. Blending... but I don't see where I could do bobbing Thanks so much for your assistance - I appreciate your support. "erratic" wrote in message ... On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:28:05 -0400, "T-nospam-D" wrote: Thanks for the reply I used Vdub to capture the avi - now the question is about interlacing i could use the filter/deinterlace setting in vdub - when i do this, the pictures 'smooth' out. i've also tried to use the 'interlace' function in tmpgenc but it doesn't seem the to change the video image... Note, i go the next step, author it to dvd and view it on a tv rather than a pc monitor to confirm my findings... Don't deinterlace your video. You won't see those horizontal lines on your TV. Just ignore them when you're previewing the video on your monitor. If you deinterlace your AVI file, you'll get worse motion clarity on your TV. http://www.geocities.com/victorfilmgroup/vidfilm1.htm erratic, you've been a huge help so far - using vdub & tmpgenc (w/hufyuv compression yuy2) what other configuration settings would you recommend? You're on the right track. If you convert your interlaced AVI files to DVD MPEG-2 with TMPGEnc, I suggest you use the Project Wizard. It will take care of most settings automatically. The field order is very important when converting AVI to MPEG-2. TMPGEnc will determine the correct field order automatically if you use the Project Wizard. For fine tuning TMPGEnc's settings, read this: http://dvd-hq.info/Compression.html |
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disregard my last email - i'll review the tuning of tmpgenc like you stated,
rather than vdub... also, i know i asked this before, but i can't find the response - if i select to stream type to ES vidoe only, how do i get the audio 1. synched up with the video and 2. authored w/dvd moviefactory? i can't seem to find how to do this "T-nospam-D" wrote in message ... i'll review the fine tuning for vdub, but this is where i kind of started i didn't deinterlace w/vdub (or change other setting with the exception of compression) i used the project wizard w/tmpgenc (didn't change a thing) i authored w/dvd movie factory and played it on the tv, it looked awful so what i'll do is review the doc, fine tune vdub As for Tmpgenc/project wizard For the first panel, I should - select DVD/NTSC/ CBR MPEG-1 Layer II Audio (MP2) - correct? or should i use VBR or PCM audio? on the next panel, - select AVI file, - Select Video type as "Interlace" rather than "Non-Interlace", - Then either Top or Bottom field first (?) - Aspect ratio 4:3 525 Line (NTSC...) - content of video - Video Movie on the subsequent panel - filter settings, - don't select anything? or go to the Other settings? then Advanced settings and select the filters? There's quite a few like "Source Range", "Inverse Telecine", etc in reading the earlier message, http://nickyguides.digital-digest.com/interlace.htm it mentions Bobbing vs. Blending... but I don't see where I could do bobbing Thanks so much for your assistance - I appreciate your support. "erratic" wrote in message ... On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:28:05 -0400, "T-nospam-D" wrote: Thanks for the reply I used Vdub to capture the avi - now the question is about interlacing i could use the filter/deinterlace setting in vdub - when i do this, the pictures 'smooth' out. i've also tried to use the 'interlace' function in tmpgenc but it doesn't seem the to change the video image... Note, i go the next step, author it to dvd and view it on a tv rather than a pc monitor to confirm my findings... Don't deinterlace your video. You won't see those horizontal lines on your TV. Just ignore them when you're previewing the video on your monitor. If you deinterlace your AVI file, you'll get worse motion clarity on your TV. http://www.geocities.com/victorfilmgroup/vidfilm1.htm erratic, you've been a huge help so far - using vdub & tmpgenc (w/hufyuv compression yuy2) what other configuration settings would you recommend? You're on the right track. If you convert your interlaced AVI files to DVD MPEG-2 with TMPGEnc, I suggest you use the Project Wizard. It will take care of most settings automatically. The field order is very important when converting AVI to MPEG-2. TMPGEnc will determine the correct field order automatically if you use the Project Wizard. For fine tuning TMPGEnc's settings, read this: http://dvd-hq.info/Compression.html |
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On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:02:07 -0400, "T-nospam-D"
wrote: also, i know i asked this before, but i can't find the response - if i select to stream type to ES vidoe only, how do i get the audio 1. synched up with the video and 2. authored w/dvd moviefactory? i can't seem to find how to do this AFAIK MovieFactory does not support elementary streams, so it's easier to let TMPGEnc encode both audio and video. Do you have sync problems? |
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no synch problems - just reading the guide for configuring tmpgenc and it
recommends elementary streams "erratic" wrote in message ... On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:02:07 -0400, "T-nospam-D" wrote: also, i know i asked this before, but i can't find the response - if i select to stream type to ES vidoe only, how do i get the audio 1. synched up with the video and 2. authored w/dvd moviefactory? i can't seem to find how to do this AFAIK MovieFactory does not support elementary streams, so it's easier to let TMPGEnc encode both audio and video. Do you have sync problems? |
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On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:57:45 -0400, "T-nospam-D"
wrote: no synch problems - just reading the guide for configuring tmpgenc and it recommends elementary streams That depends on your DVD autoring software. If your authoring software doesn't support elementary streams and your DVD player supports MP2, it's easier to simply make an MPEG-2 stream with video and (MP2) audio. |
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On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:02:07 -0400, "T-nospam-D"
wrote: authored w/dvd moviefactory? One thing I'd like to add: If TMPGEnc has created the MPEG-2 file, don't let MovieFactory re-encode it. Check this setting in DVD MF: "Do not convert compliant MPEG files". http://www.dvdrhelp.com/forum/userguides/139093.php |
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thanks - i read this and am using it that way
"erratic" wrote in message ... On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:02:07 -0400, "T-nospam-D" wrote: authored w/dvd moviefactory? One thing I'd like to add: If TMPGEnc has created the MPEG-2 file, don't let MovieFactory re-encode it. Check this setting in DVD MF: "Do not convert compliant MPEG files". http://www.dvdrhelp.com/forum/userguides/139093.php |
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