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Hi you all,
I have an ACER Aspire L100 Desktop with Win XP Media Center 2005 SP2. In it a hard disk of aprox. 250 gb, devided into two partitions (C:\ and D:\) each 113 gb. Besides that, also a hidden partition of 6 gb with the preinstalled systemfiles. After I already changed the D partition from FAT32 in NTFS, and that is working fine, I now want to go a step further. Because the total system, including all of my applications uses up about 11 gb, there is a whole lot of free space on C:\ I can not use (for other data f.i.). So now I want to devide the C;\ partition in a smaller C:\ partition of about 20 gb and format and rename the remaining gb's in a new E:\ partition. D:\ will be unchanged. I still have to work out how, but if it would be possible, does anybody know if I would, the *eRecovery procedure* still will work?? Any advise would be appreciated. Many thanks in advance Angelique |
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use the erecovery and make restore cds/dvds.Get partition magic and carry
on... "Betty Boop" wrote in message ... Hi you all, I have an ACER Aspire L100 Desktop with Win XP Media Center 2005 SP2. In it a hard disk of aprox. 250 gb, devided into two partitions (C:\ and D:\) each 113 gb. Besides that, also a hidden partition of 6 gb with the preinstalled systemfiles. After I already changed the D partition from FAT32 in NTFS, and that is working fine, I now want to go a step further. Because the total system, including all of my applications uses up about 11 gb, there is a whole lot of free space on C:\ I can not use (for other data f.i.). So now I want to devide the C;\ partition in a smaller C:\ partition of about 20 gb and format and rename the remaining gb's in a new E:\ partition. D:\ will be unchanged. I still have to work out how, but if it would be possible, does anybody know if I would, the *eRecovery procedure* still will work?? Any advise would be appreciated. Many thanks in advance Angelique |
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doS wrote:
use the erecovery and make restore cds/dvds.Get partition magic and carry on... "Betty Boop" wrote in message ... Hi you all, I have an ACER Aspire L100 Desktop with Win XP Media Center 2005 SP2. In it a hard disk of aprox. 250 gb, devided into two partitions (C:\ and D:\) each 113 gb. [/] I want to devide the C;\ partition in a smaller C:\ partition of about 20 gb and format and rename the remaining gb's in a new E:\ partition. D:\ will be unchanged. I still have to work out how, but if it would be possible, does anybody know if I would, the *eRecovery procedure* still will work?? Angelique doS, thanks for your reaction and advise. For me it's a big relief to hear that it IS possible. However, instead of what you suggested using Partition Magic to rearrange the C:\ partition I'm thinking of using my original CD of another version of XP, XP Home Edition. With that CD I will start to make a totally new install because than I can format it first in the right measurement, break off the installation after format and than reinstall the machine's Media Edition. The formatting of the new E:\ I can make through the system. You agree, is it good thinking or will I mess up? What is still not clear for me, will the eRecovery still work with that smaller space to install??? The same question I got for my Norton Ghost backups. Could they also be restored to the smaller C:\ ??? This is very important for me, because after I changed the D:\ partition from FAT32 to NTFS, the backup and restore function of the machine is not working anymore so I am totally dependent on my Norton Ghost application. So,... if not, I really won't carry on! Could you please help me out with this as well? Angelique |
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I dont think you can resize the part using an xp cd....
"Betty Boop" wrote in message ... doS wrote: use the erecovery and make restore cds/dvds.Get partition magic and carry on... "Betty Boop" wrote in message ... Hi you all, I have an ACER Aspire L100 Desktop with Win XP Media Center 2005 SP2. In it a hard disk of aprox. 250 gb, devided into two partitions (C:\ and D:\) each 113 gb. [/] I want to devide the C;\ partition in a smaller C:\ partition of about 20 gb and format and rename the remaining gb's in a new E:\ partition. D:\ will be unchanged. I still have to work out how, but if it would be possible, does anybody know if I would, the *eRecovery procedure* still will work?? Angelique doS, thanks for your reaction and advise. For me it's a big relief to hear that it IS possible. However, instead of what you suggested using Partition Magic to rearrange the C:\ partition I'm thinking of using my original CD of another version of XP, XP Home Edition. With that CD I will start to make a totally new install because than I can format it first in the right measurement, break off the installation after format and than reinstall the machine's Media Edition. The formatting of the new E:\ I can make through the system. You agree, is it good thinking or will I mess up? What is still not clear for me, will the eRecovery still work with that smaller space to install??? The same question I got for my Norton Ghost backups. Could they also be restored to the smaller C:\ ??? This is very important for me, because after I changed the D:\ partition from FAT32 to NTFS, the backup and restore function of the machine is not working anymore so I am totally dependent on my Norton Ghost application. So,... if not, I really won't carry on! Could you please help me out with this as well? Angelique |
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Partiton magic is the best way to go.
"Betty Boop" wrote in message ... doS wrote: use the erecovery and make restore cds/dvds.Get partition magic and carry on... "Betty Boop" wrote in message ... Hi you all, I have an ACER Aspire L100 Desktop with Win XP Media Center 2005 SP2. In it a hard disk of aprox. 250 gb, devided into two partitions (C:\ and D:\) each 113 gb. [/] I want to devide the C;\ partition in a smaller C:\ partition of about 20 gb and format and rename the remaining gb's in a new E:\ partition. D:\ will be unchanged. I still have to work out how, but if it would be possible, does anybody know if I would, the *eRecovery procedure* still will work?? Angelique doS, thanks for your reaction and advise. For me it's a big relief to hear that it IS possible. However, instead of what you suggested using Partition Magic to rearrange the C:\ partition I'm thinking of using my original CD of another version of XP, XP Home Edition. With that CD I will start to make a totally new install because than I can format it first in the right measurement, break off the installation after format and than reinstall the machine's Media Edition. The formatting of the new E:\ I can make through the system. You agree, is it good thinking or will I mess up? What is still not clear for me, will the eRecovery still work with that smaller space to install??? The same question I got for my Norton Ghost backups. Could they also be restored to the smaller C:\ ??? This is very important for me, because after I changed the D:\ partition from FAT32 to NTFS, the backup and restore function of the machine is not working anymore so I am totally dependent on my Norton Ghost application. So,... if not, I really won't carry on! Could you please help me out with this as well? Angelique |
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doS wrote:
I dont think you can resize the part using an xp cd.... "Betty Boop" wrote in message ... doS wrote: use the erecovery and make restore cds/dvds.Get partition magic and carry on... "Betty Boop" wrote in message ... Hi you all, I have an ACER Aspire L100 Desktop with Win XP Media Center 2005 SP2. In it a hard disk of aprox. 250 gb, devided into two partitions (C:\ and D:\) each 113 gb. [/] I want to devide the C;\ partition in a smaller C:\ partition of about 20 gb and format and rename the remaining gb's in a new E:\ partition. D:\ will be unchanged. I still have to work out how, but if it would be possible, does anybody know if I would, the *eRecovery procedure* still will work?? Angelique doS, thanks for your reaction and advise. For me it's a big relief to hear that it IS possible. However, instead of what you suggested using Partition Magic to rearrange the C:\ partition I'm thinking of using my original CD of another version of XP, XP Home Edition. With that CD I will start to make a totally new install because than I can format it first in the right measurement, break off the installation after format and than reinstall the machine's Media Edition. The formatting of the new E:\ I can make through the system. You agree, is it good thinking or will I mess up? What is still not clear for me, will the eRecovery still work with that smaller space to install??? The same question I got for my Norton Ghost backups. Could they also be restored to the smaller C:\ ??? This is very important for me, because after I changed the D:\ partition from FAT32 to NTFS, the backup and restore function of the machine is not working anymore so I am totally dependent on my Norton Ghost application. So,... if not, I really won't carry on! Could you please help me out with this as well? Angelique Besides the technical problem I'm dealing with, there may also be some sort of a language problem here. I apologize for the fact that English has never been my mothers language, so really, I have to try very hard to translate from my own language (Dutch) into the beautiful English language. Besides that, I also am not a technical wonder, computers concerning. All and all, your answer for me, is a bit short. Would you please be so kind and be something more specific. It would matter a lot to me. Angelique |
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Betty Boop wrote in
: doS wrote: I dont think you can resize the part using an xp cd.... "Betty Boop" wrote in message ... doS wrote: use the erecovery and make restore cds/dvds.Get partition magic and carry on... "Betty Boop" wrote in message ... Hi you all, I have an ACER Aspire L100 Desktop with Win XP Media Center 2005 SP2. In it a hard disk of aprox. 250 gb, devided into two partitions (C:\ and D:\) each 113 gb. [/] I want to devide the C;\ partition in a smaller C:\ partition of about 20 gb and format and rename the remaining gb's in a new E:\ partition. D:\ will be unchanged. I still have to work out how, but if it would be possible, does anybody know if I would, the *eRecovery procedure* still will work?? Angelique doS, thanks for your reaction and advise. For me it's a big relief to hear that it IS possible. However, instead of what you suggested using Partition Magic to rearrange the C:\ partition I'm thinking of using my original CD of another version of XP, XP Home Edition. With that CD I will start to make a totally new install because than I can format it first in the right measurement, break off the installation after format and than reinstall the machine's Media Edition. The formatting of the new E:\ I can make through the system. You agree, is it good thinking or will I mess up? What is still not clear for me, will the eRecovery still work with that smaller space to install??? The same question I got for my Norton Ghost backups. Could they also be restored to the smaller C:\ ??? This is very important for me, because after I changed the D:\ partition from FAT32 to NTFS, the backup and restore function of the machine is not working anymore so I am totally dependent on my Norton Ghost application. So,... if not, I really won't carry on! Could you please help me out with this as well? Angelique Besides the technical problem I'm dealing with, there may also be some sort of a language problem here. I apologize for the fact that English has never been my mothers language, so really, I have to try very hard to translate from my own language (Dutch) into the beautiful English language. Besides that, I also am not a technical wonder, computers concerning. All and all, your answer for me, is a bit short. Would you please be so kind and be something more specific. It would matter a lot to me. Angelique I think that the eRecovery approach will get you the last configuration that you saved, OR, it will get you the original system as you purchased it. I see several options: FIRST Get some temporary file cleaner (I use ATF Cleaner, got it through MajorGeeks). This might free up a lot of space. Then get a registry cleaner and reorganizer. This may clean up more and free up more space. SECOND Purchase Partition Magic or something other partitioning software that can resize your partitions without losing any files. Just use it as is, IF your system works now. THIRD Back up all your data files (migh not be easy). Then just install the operating system that you desire after: a) making sure you have all the software installation disks you will need, and b) making sure that you will have all the drivers needed for your hardware. (that is the reason I have yet to try putting XP on this Vista Acer Aspire 3680 - I don't think I will have all the drivers, especially the wireless). c) erasing the hard drive completely. Ik hoop dat ik je hiermee heb geholpen. M'n nederlands is wat ouderwets aangezien ik in 1969 als volwassene naar de VS ging. Groetjes! -- Best regards Han email address is invalid |
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Han wrote:
Betty Boop wrote in : doS wrote: I dont think you can resize the part using an xp cd.... "Betty Boop" wrote in message ... doS wrote: use the erecovery and make restore cds/dvds.Get partition magic and carry on... "Betty Boop" wrote in message ... Hi you all, I have an ACER Aspire L100 Desktop with Win XP Media Center 2005 SP2. In it a hard disk of aprox. 250 gb, devided into two partitions (C:\ and D:\) each 113 gb. [/] I want to devide the C;\ partition in a smaller C:\ partition of about 20 gb and format and rename the remaining gb's in a new E:\ partition. D:\ will be unchanged. I still have to work out how, but if it would be possible, does anybody know if I would, the *eRecovery procedure* still will work?? Angelique doS, thanks for your reaction and advise. For me it's a big relief to hear that it IS possible. However, instead of what you suggested using Partition Magic to rearrange the C:\ partition I'm thinking of using my original CD of another version of XP, XP Home Edition. With that CD I will start to make a totally new install because than I can format it first in the right measurement, break off the installation after format and than reinstall the machine's Media Edition. The formatting of the new E:\ I can make through the system. You agree, is it good thinking or will I mess up? What is still not clear for me, will the eRecovery still work with that smaller space to install??? The same question I got for my Norton Ghost backups. Could they also be restored to the smaller C:\ ??? This is very important for me, because after I changed the D:\ partition from FAT32 to NTFS, the backup and restore function of the machine is not working anymore so I am totally dependent on my Norton Ghost application. So,... if not, I really won't carry on! Could you please help me out with this as well? Angelique Besides the technical problem I'm dealing with, there may also be some sort of a language problem here. I apologize for the fact that English has never been my mothers language, so really, I have to try very hard to translate from my own language (Dutch) into the beautiful English language. Besides that, I also am not a technical wonder, computers concerning. All and all, your answer for me, is a bit short. Would you please be so kind and be something more specific. It would matter a lot to me. Angelique I think that the eRecovery approach will get you the last configuration that you saved, OR, it will get you the original system as you purchased it. I see several options: FIRST Get some temporary file cleaner (I use ATF Cleaner, got it through MajorGeeks). This might free up a lot of space. Then get a registry cleaner and reorganizer. This may clean up more and free up more space. SECOND Purchase Partition Magic or something other partitioning software that can resize your partitions without losing any files. Just use it as is, IF your system works now. THIRD Back up all your data files (migh not be easy). Then just install the operating system that you desire after: a) making sure you have all the software installation disks you will need, and b) making sure that you will have all the drivers needed for your hardware. (that is the reason I have yet to try putting XP on this Vista Acer Aspire 3680 - I don't think I will have all the drivers, especially the wireless). c) erasing the hard drive completely. Ik hoop dat ik je hiermee heb geholpen. M'n nederlands is wat ouderwets aangezien ik in 1969 als volwassene naar de VS ging. Groetjes! Dear Han, beste Han, Hi!!! Nee hoor, niets van te merken!! Alles is goed te volgen zoals je het omschrijft. Joh, wat een toeval zeg! Hoop dat het met jou én je dierbaren goed gaat daar in The States! Thanks for your reply, but I think you didn't read my very first posting with the full explanation. Let me try to put it this way. PC is a ACER desktop with a preinstalled Media Edition 2005 XP version Hard disk is 250 gb devided into 2 partitions of each 113 gb. Partition C:\ with (only) the systemfiles and the other applications (aprox. 13 gb) and a D: with (only) my personal data on it. ACER works with an eRecovery service. It only works when the goalpartition is in FAT32. Recently I formatted this into NTFS (for more safety) so, eRecovery isn't working anymore for making backups and I do not have any eRecovery backups of the system. However,... it is still possible to use eRecovery to reinstall the preinstalled Windows Media Center. The one on a hidden partition. Instead of using eRecovery for making backups of the system (C:\ part) I now use the Norton Ghost Backup application. I got several (ghost) system backups on the D: drive that were made while the system was working fine. That's the situation now! What I want to do is to devide the complete C-drive (113 gb total of which only 13 gb in use by the system and 100 gb is NOT) into a smaller C: drive of about 25 gb and make a new drive (E with the rest of the remaining bytes. The only things I really need to know is WHEN I DO make C: smaller (!!!!), is: a) When something *might* go wrong, will eRecovery still putting back the complete Windows Media Ed. 2005 as it came from the factory on the NOW SMALLER! C: drive???? and b) When eRecovery ISN'T working properly anymore , is it THAN still possible to RESTORE one of the GHOST backups onto the SMALLER C:-drive? And will it work, of course!! So the main question is not HOW to devide the C: into two new partitions (that's of a lesser importance!!!) but *when* I do, will eRecovery put back my original Windows version onto the *smaller* C:\drive AND/OR will Norton GHOST restore my (original and *bigger*) backups from the 'old' C:drive on the new *smaller* C:\ drive. Mocht mijn Engels én mijn technische kennis en inzicht in computers en systemen inderdaad zo slecht zijn als ik zelf vermoed en dat dát de reden is dat het wérkelijke punt wat ik duidelijk wil hebben, niet beantwoord wordt, wil ik het ook nog wel in het Nederlands terug vertalen. In ieder geval nogmaals bedankt voor je reactie. Het doet mij écht wat (big smile!) een reactie te krijgen van een (voormalig) landgenoot, zo ver weg! Angelique |
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You should be easily able to reduce the size of the C: partition without
having to reinstall anything. If you are really concerned, create a Ghost image of the hidden partition, and one of the C: partition, and you won't need the hidden partition any longer, or the supplied Acer backup system, you'll have your own. Once you are satisfied that works, you can reclaim the hidden partition which will no longer be serving any useful purpose. -- Blessings & peace --- Ray "Betty Boop" wrote in message ... Han wrote: Betty Boop wrote in : doS wrote: I dont think you can resize the part using an xp cd.... "Betty Boop" wrote in message ... doS wrote: use the erecovery and make restore cds/dvds.Get partition magic and carry on... "Betty Boop" wrote in message ... Hi you all, I have an ACER Aspire L100 Desktop with Win XP Media Center 2005 SP2. In it a hard disk of aprox. 250 gb, devided into two partitions (C:\ and D:\) each 113 gb. [/] I want to devide the C;\ partition in a smaller C:\ partition of about 20 gb and format and rename the remaining gb's in a new E:\ partition. D:\ will be unchanged. I still have to work out how, but if it would be possible, does anybody know if I would, the *eRecovery procedure* still will work?? Angelique doS, thanks for your reaction and advise. For me it's a big relief to hear that it IS possible. However, instead of what you suggested using Partition Magic to rearrange the C:\ partition I'm thinking of using my original CD of another version of XP, XP Home Edition. With that CD I will start to make a totally new install because than I can format it first in the right measurement, break off the installation after format and than reinstall the machine's Media Edition. The formatting of the new E:\ I can make through the system. You agree, is it good thinking or will I mess up? What is still not clear for me, will the eRecovery still work with that smaller space to install??? The same question I got for my Norton Ghost backups. Could they also be restored to the smaller C:\ ??? This is very important for me, because after I changed the D:\ partition from FAT32 to NTFS, the backup and restore function of the machine is not working anymore so I am totally dependent on my Norton Ghost application. So,... if not, I really won't carry on! Could you please help me out with this as well? Angelique Besides the technical problem I'm dealing with, there may also be some sort of a language problem here. I apologize for the fact that English has never been my mothers language, so really, I have to try very hard to translate from my own language (Dutch) into the beautiful English language. Besides that, I also am not a technical wonder, computers concerning. All and all, your answer for me, is a bit short. Would you please be so kind and be something more specific. It would matter a lot to me. Angelique I think that the eRecovery approach will get you the last configuration that you saved, OR, it will get you the original system as you purchased it. I see several options: FIRST Get some temporary file cleaner (I use ATF Cleaner, got it through MajorGeeks). This might free up a lot of space. Then get a registry cleaner and reorganizer. This may clean up more and free up more space. SECOND Purchase Partition Magic or something other partitioning software that can resize your partitions without losing any files. Just use it as is, IF your system works now. THIRD Back up all your data files (migh not be easy). Then just install the operating system that you desire after: a) making sure you have all the software installation disks you will need, and b) making sure that you will have all the drivers needed for your hardware. (that is the reason I have yet to try putting XP on this Vista Acer Aspire 3680 - I don't think I will have all the drivers, especially the wireless). c) erasing the hard drive completely. Ik hoop dat ik je hiermee heb geholpen. M'n nederlands is wat ouderwets aangezien ik in 1969 als volwassene naar de VS ging. Groetjes! Dear Han, beste Han, Hi!!! Nee hoor, niets van te merken!! Alles is goed te volgen zoals je het omschrijft. Joh, wat een toeval zeg! Hoop dat het met jou én je dierbaren goed gaat daar in The States! Thanks for your reply, but I think you didn't read my very first posting with the full explanation. Let me try to put it this way. PC is a ACER desktop with a preinstalled Media Edition 2005 XP version Hard disk is 250 gb devided into 2 partitions of each 113 gb. Partition C:\ with (only) the systemfiles and the other applications (aprox. 13 gb) and a D: with (only) my personal data on it. ACER works with an eRecovery service. It only works when the goalpartition is in FAT32. Recently I formatted this into NTFS (for more safety) so, eRecovery isn't working anymore for making backups and I do not have any eRecovery backups of the system. However,... it is still possible to use eRecovery to reinstall the preinstalled Windows Media Center. The one on a hidden partition. Instead of using eRecovery for making backups of the system (C:\ part) I now use the Norton Ghost Backup application. I got several (ghost) system backups on the D: drive that were made while the system was working fine. That's the situation now! What I want to do is to devide the complete C-drive (113 gb total of which only 13 gb in use by the system and 100 gb is NOT) into a smaller C: drive of about 25 gb and make a new drive (E with the rest of the remaining bytes. The only things I really need to know is WHEN I DO make C: smaller (!!!!), is: a) When something *might* go wrong, will eRecovery still putting back the complete Windows Media Ed. 2005 as it came from the factory on the NOW SMALLER! C: drive???? and b) When eRecovery ISN'T working properly anymore , is it THAN still possible to RESTORE one of the GHOST backups onto the SMALLER C:-drive? And will it work, of course!! So the main question is not HOW to devide the C: into two new partitions (that's of a lesser importance!!!) but *when* I do, will eRecovery put back my original Windows version onto the *smaller* C:\drive AND/OR will Norton GHOST restore my (original and *bigger*) backups from the 'old' C:drive on the new *smaller* C:\ drive. Mocht mijn Engels én mijn technische kennis en inzicht in computers en systemen inderdaad zo slecht zijn als ik zelf vermoed en dat dát de reden is dat het wérkelijke punt wat ik duidelijk wil hebben, niet beantwoord wordt, wil ik het ook nog wel in het Nederlands terug vertalen. In ieder geval nogmaals bedankt voor je reactie. Het doet mij écht wat (big smile!) een reactie te krijgen van een (voormalig) landgenoot, zo ver weg! Angelique |
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"Wandering" wrote in :
You should be easily able to reduce the size of the C: partition without having to reinstall anything. If you are really concerned, create a Ghost image of the hidden partition, and one of the C: partition, and you won't need the hidden partition any longer, or the supplied Acer backup system, you'll have your own. Once you are satisfied that works, you can reclaim the hidden partition which will no longer be serving any useful purpose. Yes, what Wandering said is what Angelique should do (IMO). I didn't understand what software Angelique will use for re-partitioning, but when I have done this (I forgot whether I used Paragon, Symantec, or Acronis software), there were no problems running the system afterwards. Of course, images of the hard drive as it is when it did work are best. I think that the Acer software is pretty lame anyway. -- Best regards Han email address is invalid |
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