I was hoping somebody could help me with this problem...

Vassago wrote:

sorry. although i am overwhelmed by your sarcasm

You appear to be entering replies all over with zero quotations.
Even OE, broken as it is, is capable of quoting previous
messages. I suggest you spend some time finding out how to run
it, and you will then be able to make better use of usenet.

The quotations are the portions headed by '' (one or more) at the
start of lines. You basically begin by quoting the entire message
to which you are replying (which can be automatic) and then
deleting the non-germane portions while appending (or
interspersing) your reply. The attributions are the lines as the
beginning saying something like "Vassago wrote:", and the count of
'' identifies the author of corresponding lines.

--
fix (vb.): 1. to paper over, obscure, hide from public view; 2.
to work around, in a way that produces unintended consequences
that are worse than the original problem. Usage: "Windows ME
fixes many of the shortcomings of Windows 98 SE". - Hutchison

"Vassago" wrote in message ...
I would like to help,but need more info?
1.When you power up do you see any lights on the PC come on?
Yes, the computer sounds as if it's functioning as normal - if even sounds
as though it's booting up.

A: if YES, then how many beeps do you hear after that point?
Just the one

Ok,
Another question.

Do you know who made the BIOS? or the PC maker?
Since you have nothing on your screen it can be...
1.Failed Monitor
2.Failed bootable device, such as a hard drive or graphics card. In
which case there would be no more beeps and the POST[power up self
test]test would stop at the point of failure.

Ed

I gathered from the first paragraph that more sarcasm was to follow. Lovely.
It's not that I don't appreciate the amount of thought that is required to
come up with these little ditties, but I have a computer to fix. Alas, this
means I won't have the time to read it.

But I will take your advice and check out a newbie FAQ for Usenet. Hopefully
though, you'll do something similar with your manners.

"Onideus Mad Hatter" wrote in message
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On Tue, 4 May 2004 19:03:30 +0000 (UTC), "Vassago"
wrote:

You said it WAS working, right? You had it up and running with the new
stuff, it was burning
something yadda yadda then you came back and BOOM, nothing? It won't
come
on at all now or are you
just having a problem with the "monitor going into standby mode"???

The problem seems to be that you're giving us a whole lot of
information...you're just not
organizing it very well, makes it hard to understand what's actually
going
on with your system.

SORRY ABOUT THE WAY I EXPLAINED THE PROBLEM.
THE COMPUTER STARTS AS NORMAL, SOUNDS LIKE IT'S BOOTING UP BUT THE
MONITOR
JUST DOESN'T REGISTER THAT IT'S ON

If your system won't come on AT ALL, meaning that when you hit the power
button it doesn't do
anything, no noise, no lights, nothing, then most likely you suffered a
power surge or spike. If
that's the case try flipping that little red switch on the back of the
computer back and forth a few
times (make sure you have it back on it's original state when you're
done).
Also try unplugging it
and plugging it back in. Check the reset switch on your surge protector
(you DO hopefully have a
surge protector). Also make sure it's not the outlet (ie test it with a
lamp or whatever).

THE OUTLET IS FINE, I'VE TRIED THE SAME OUTLET AND CABLE WITH THE PC I'M
USING NOW

If the system DOES make noise, beeps, fans, etc but you just aren't
getting
any signal to the
monitor that could mean that the monitor cable got unplugged (best case
scenario) or it could mean
that something happened to your video card (ie it blew). OR, what's even
more likely is that you
didn't install it correctly. Basically you probably didn't seat it
correct,
it was only sitting
about halfway into the slot and all you need to do is to take it out and
then put it back in and
make sure it's FIRMLY seated ALL THE WAY into the slot.

MONITOR SECURELY PLUGGED IN, AS IS THE GRAPHIC CARD

There are some other possible things, but they are unlikely unless
there's
something you're not
telling us (like if you ****ed around with the BIOS and set it to VGA
Palette Snoop).

NOPE, ALTHOUGH I THINK THE PROBLEM WAS THAT I DIDN'T DISABLE THE
(SUPPOSEDLY) ONBOADR GRAPHIC CARD IN BIOS IN THE FIRST PLACE

*shakes head*

Don't EVER respond to a post in that manner again (ie with all caps and
not using 's.)

And yes, not disabling the onboard graphics card could possibly have an
affect. To know for sure
simply plug your monitor into the old monitor port, turn it on, if it
works then you'll know for
certain where the problem lies. Then go into the BIOS and disable onboard
video or set it up to use
the AGP slot as the primary graphics adapters, also make sure "VGA Palette
Snoop" is set to DISABLE,
save, exit, shut it down, switch it back, then it should work. If not,
then you probably have a
dead video card. If the video card (I don't remember if you said what it
was) has a fan on it, it
could be that the fan crapped out and then it over heated, in which case
just replacing it's fan
might fix it. Or it could be permanently damaged. Hard to say without
actually being able to see
it.

There are some other possible causes, maybe a bad slot, in which case if
its an AGP card yer kinda
screwed. It's also possible that you're trying to use an 8x AGP card
where your board will only
support 2x or 4x (although from my experience it should at least let you
see the boot up screen and
so forth).

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net


I apologise if I haven't replied in the correct manner and as I have said to
CBFalconer, I will check out a newbie FAQ for using Usenet Newsgroups but
DON'T you ever speak to me like that again. If somebody is doing something
wrong, I'm sure you can tell them without being such a dick about it.

Thank you for the help by the way, I believe the problem was the
motherboard, in which case that'll be replaced as soon as the technician I
ended up calling out is sure.

Cheers

Vassago wrote:
I was hoping somebody could help me with this problem...

Last night I left the computer running as it was backing up a DVD. This
morning I found the PC on with the monitor on stand-by and the DVD-RW Drive
open. I turned the monitor off and the on again hoping it would start but no
luck. I turned the computer off and rebooted it.

You did try to move the mouse and hit the escape key first, to shake
Windows out of Stand By mode, right?

But all it does now is turn the monitor on stand-by, I know that it's the
computer doing it as when the monitor is turned on when disconnected I get
the normal 'No Signal, Please Check Connection' message. I've tried another
monitor but I get the same results.

Does the machine seem to be booting normally? The usual hard drive light
pattern, etc?

I'm running Windows XP Home Edition,

Always a bad idea in my opinion.

an AMD Athlon Processor, and I have 778
RAM. I installed an ATI Radeon 9600 Graphic Card 2 days ago (although, I
couldn't find the previous one so that's still in there).

You couldn't find the last one? I'm guessing that you have a graphics
chip on your motherboard. You should disable this in your BIOS settings
before using the system with an AGP graphics card. Take out the AGP card
you've just bought, and see if the system boots normally again.

If it does, then you've got onboard graphics, or you've got a PCI
graphics card - which will be below the AGP slot. Either way, you ought
to disable or remove the existing graphics system to be sure the new one
won't have problems.

However, you did get to Windows without problem once, even with both
cards in the machine... maybe something more sinister is going on.

I would extremely appreciate any help on this. I'm sorry if this is the
wrong NG to be posting to, if nobody can help, could they please point me in
the right direction? Thank You.

I'd say this is the wrong group. alt.comp.hardware actually seems to be
a military training ground for flame warfare.
--
Bob

On Wed, 5 May 2004 20:18:03 +0000 (UTC), "Vassago" wrote:


"Onideus Mad Hatter" wrote in message
news:fa7g90pqg7koofsailmpkq3v5q3dqqs8pb@farfoos.. .
On Tue, 4 May 2004 19:03:30 +0000 (UTC), "Vassago"
wrote:

You said it WAS working, right? You had it up and running with the new
stuff, it was burning
something yadda yadda then you came back and BOOM, nothing? It won't
come
on at all now or are you
just having a problem with the "monitor going into standby mode"???

The problem seems to be that you're giving us a whole lot of
information...you're just not
organizing it very well, makes it hard to understand what's actually
going
on with your system.

SORRY ABOUT THE WAY I EXPLAINED THE PROBLEM.
THE COMPUTER STARTS AS NORMAL, SOUNDS LIKE IT'S BOOTING UP BUT THE
MONITOR
JUST DOESN'T REGISTER THAT IT'S ON

If your system won't come on AT ALL, meaning that when you hit the power
button it doesn't do
anything, no noise, no lights, nothing, then most likely you suffered a
power surge or spike. If
that's the case try flipping that little red switch on the back of the
computer back and forth a few
times (make sure you have it back on it's original state when you're
done).
Also try unplugging it
and plugging it back in. Check the reset switch on your surge protector
(you DO hopefully have a
surge protector). Also make sure it's not the outlet (ie test it with a
lamp or whatever).

THE OUTLET IS FINE, I'VE TRIED THE SAME OUTLET AND CABLE WITH THE PC I'M
USING NOW

If the system DOES make noise, beeps, fans, etc but you just aren't
getting
any signal to the
monitor that could mean that the monitor cable got unplugged (best case
scenario) or it could mean
that something happened to your video card (ie it blew). OR, what's even
more likely is that you
didn't install it correctly. Basically you probably didn't seat it
correct,
it was only sitting
about halfway into the slot and all you need to do is to take it out and
then put it back in and
make sure it's FIRMLY seated ALL THE WAY into the slot.

MONITOR SECURELY PLUGGED IN, AS IS THE GRAPHIC CARD

There are some other possible things, but they are unlikely unless
there's
something you're not
telling us (like if you ****ed around with the BIOS and set it to VGA
Palette Snoop).

NOPE, ALTHOUGH I THINK THE PROBLEM WAS THAT I DIDN'T DISABLE THE
(SUPPOSEDLY) ONBOADR GRAPHIC CARD IN BIOS IN THE FIRST PLACE

*shakes head*

Don't EVER respond to a post in that manner again (ie with all caps and
not using 's.)

And yes, not disabling the onboard graphics card could possibly have an
affect. To know for sure
simply plug your monitor into the old monitor port, turn it on, if it
works then you'll know for
certain where the problem lies. Then go into the BIOS and disable onboard
video or set it up to use
the AGP slot as the primary graphics adapters, also make sure "VGA Palette
Snoop" is set to DISABLE,
save, exit, shut it down, switch it back, then it should work. If not,
then you probably have a
dead video card. If the video card (I don't remember if you said what it
was) has a fan on it, it
could be that the fan crapped out and then it over heated, in which case
just replacing it's fan
might fix it. Or it could be permanently damaged. Hard to say without
actually being able to see
it.

There are some other possible causes, maybe a bad slot, in which case if
its an AGP card yer kinda
screwed. It's also possible that you're trying to use an 8x AGP card
where your board will only
support 2x or 4x (although from my experience it should at least let you
see the boot up screen and
so forth).

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net


I apologise if I haven't replied in the correct manner and as I have said to
CBFalconer, I will check out a newbie FAQ for using Usenet Newsgroups

Rule number one...don't apologize, some of us see it as a sign of weakness. `, )

but DON'T you ever speak to me like that agSLAP

I'll speak to you any way I like newbie. You can either like it, or you can bitch, or you can you
leave...your choice. See that's the way Usenet works, it's not all happy joy filled hugs of eternal
innocence. No one here is likely going to coddle you or play nice, they're gonna give you 8 shades
of ass blistering reality with a few sharp bitch slaps of hard biting sarcasm. *shrugs*

Thank you for the help by the way, I believe the problem was the
motherboard, in which case that'll be replaced as soon as the technician I
ended up calling out is sure.

*shakes head*

Ahhh, ignorance, I wonder if it really is as blissful as they claim.

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net

On Fri, 07 May 2004 01:14:45 -0400, wrote:

What's the maSLAP

Oh look, a fan boi, isn't he cute?

A 7.3 second global search in my Agent archives shows him to be a malcontent little bitch with a
penchant for using gay oriented names. Most likely he's a desperate lil ghey man who wants to touch
the evul Mad Hatter's man parts...unfortunately for him, I don't swing that way, looks like he's
goin in the plonk filter. Farwell Junior, you've got more gay than a 24 hour straight marathon of
back to back Cabin Boy showings...and that's pretty ****in gay, boy lemme tell ya.

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net

On Thu, 06 May 2004 23:54:48 -0700, Onideus Mad Hatter
wrote:


Rule number one...don't apologize, some of us see it as a sign of weakness. `, )

Rule number two... signs of weakness are irrelvant, the facts dictate any
intelligent conversation.

but DON'T you ever speak to me like that agSLAP

^^^^ there was the mistake, the "i'm your mother" attitude.


I'll speak to you any way I like newbie. You can either like it, or you can bitch, or you can you
leave...your choice.

You forgot the "ignore it" choice. Thick skin is worth more than it's
weight in gold.

word-a-day toilet paper?

"Onideus Mad Hatter" wrote in message
news:gpcm90530nacmns2gevegte13r08dl218h@farfoos...
On Fri, 07 May 2004 01:14:45 -0400, wrote:

What's the maSLAP

Oh look, a fan boi, isn't he cute?

A 7.3 second global search in my Agent archives shows him to be a
malcontent little bitch with a
penchant for using gay oriented names. Most likely he's a desperate lil
ghey man who wants to touch
the evul Mad Hatter's man parts...unfortunately for him, I don't swing
that way, looks like he's
goin in the plonk filter. Farwell Junior, you've got more gay than a 24
hour straight marathon of
back to back Cabin Boy showings...and that's pretty ****in gay, boy lemme
tell ya.

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net

You have a penchant for gays or something - you talk about them a lot


"Onideus Mad Hatter" wrote in message
news:gpcm90530nacmns2gevegte13r08dl218h@farfoos...
On Fri, 07 May 2004 01:14:45 -0400, wrote:

What's the maSLAP

Oh look, a fan boi, isn't he cute?

A 7.3 second global search in my Agent archives shows him to be a
malcontent little bitch with a
penchant for using gay oriented names. Most likely he's a desperate lil
ghey man who wants to touch
the evul Mad Hatter's man parts...unfortunately for him, I don't swing
that way, looks like he's
goin in the plonk filter. Farwell Junior, you've got more gay than a 24
hour straight marathon of
back to back Cabin Boy showings...and that's pretty ****in gay, boy lemme
tell ya.

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net