Why can't I burn + discs on my 107D +/- burner properly?

Just bought a Pioneer 107D 8x+/8x- and cannot for the life of me get it to
burn + discs. I've burned 25 or so minus discs, but no + discs. So far i've
made 12 coasters of + discs and none from the -discs. It keeps getting to
the end of the burn and coming up with a different problem depending on the
software I use (Nero, Shrink, Stomp) An example would be this in Nero:

"Invalid field in command"
"Could not perform end of disc-at-once"

Using the very same files, I just burned it to a DVD-. I'm using Bulkpaq
orange 4x Gen 4 discs for the - and Bulkpaq white 4x gen 4 discs for the +

I have no idea where I'm going wrong - if I am indeed going wrong.

TIA

Dave Reid

Dave Reid wrote:

Just bought a Pioneer 107D 8x+/8x- and cannot for the life of me get it to
burn + discs. I've burned 25 or so minus discs, but no + discs. So far i've
made 12 coasters of + discs and none from the -discs. It keeps getting to
the end of the burn and coming up with a different problem depending on the
software I use (Nero, Shrink, Stomp) An example would be this in Nero:

"Invalid field in command"
"Could not perform end of disc-at-once"

Using the very same files, I just burned it to a DVD-. I'm using Bulkpaq
orange 4x Gen 4 discs for the - and Bulkpaq white 4x gen 4 discs for the +

I have no idea where I'm going wrong - if I am indeed going wrong.

TIA

Dave Reid

Probably a media problem. I'd suggest trying a reputable manufacturer
like Verbatim (but not the 25 disc cake box which is actually made by
CMC).

Cheers.

James.

On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 13:18:16 +0100, James Perrett
wrote:

Dave Reid wrote:

Just bought a Pioneer 107D 8x+/8x- and cannot for the life of me get it to
burn + discs. I've burned 25 or so minus discs, but no + discs. So far i've
made 12 coasters of + discs and none from the -discs. It keeps getting to
the end of the burn and coming up with a different problem depending on the
software I use (Nero, Shrink, Stomp) An example would be this in Nero:

"Invalid field in command"
"Could not perform end of disc-at-once"

Using the very same files, I just burned it to a DVD-. I'm using Bulkpaq
orange 4x Gen 4 discs for the - and Bulkpaq white 4x gen 4 discs for the +

I have no idea where I'm going wrong - if I am indeed going wrong.

TIA

Dave Reid

Probably a media problem. I'd suggest trying a reputable manufacturer
like Verbatim (but not the 25 disc cake box which is actually made by
CMC).

Cheers.

James.

Best place to start for that might be Pioneer's recommended media
list. Every manufacturer seems to have a list of media that they
recommend for best results from their drives.

Ridata, Taiyo Yuden, TDK, and even though CMC gets slammed a lot, CMC
seems to make those lists quite often too.
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MCheu

Thanks for the info so far. 2 Questions though:

1. I didn't realise that TY made DVD discs. I alweays use TY cd's when
archiving Music shows. I've tried searching for distributors in the UK, but
no luck.

2. I can understand the idea of trying different media (just got 2 boxes of
8x Datawrites that are supposedly Fuji) but I didn't realise that there
would be a difference between Bulkbaq plusses and minus'. BP - discs work
fine.

As I say thanks so far...

Dave Reid



"MCheu" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 13:18:16 +0100, James Perrett
wrote:

Dave Reid wrote:

Just bought a Pioneer 107D 8x+/8x- and cannot for the life of me get it
to
burn + discs. I've burned 25 or so minus discs, but no + discs. So far
i've
made 12 coasters of + discs and none from the -discs. It keeps getting
to
the end of the burn and coming up with a different problem depending on
the
software I use (Nero, Shrink, Stomp) An example would be this in Nero:

"Invalid field in command"
"Could not perform end of disc-at-once"

Using the very same files, I just burned it to a DVD-. I'm using
Bulkpaq
orange 4x Gen 4 discs for the - and Bulkpaq white 4x gen 4 discs for
the +

I have no idea where I'm going wrong - if I am indeed going wrong.

TIA

Dave Reid

Probably a media problem. I'd suggest trying a reputable manufacturer
like Verbatim (but not the 25 disc cake box which is actually made by
CMC).

Cheers.

James.

Best place to start for that might be Pioneer's recommended media
list. Every manufacturer seems to have a list of media that they
recommend for best results from their drives.

Ridata, Taiyo Yuden, TDK, and even though CMC gets slammed a lot, CMC
seems to make those lists quite often too.
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MCheu

MCheu wrote:

Ridata, Taiyo Yuden, TDK, and even though CMC gets slammed a lot, CMC
seems to make those lists quite often too.
---------------------------------------------

CMC is probably criticized based on its CD history, recommended based on
its DVD product now.

Mike
--

http://www.mrichter.com/

Could anyone tell me where to get "quality" DVD blanks (TY, Fuji etc) from
in the UK?

Dave


"Dave Reid" wrote in message
. ..
| Thanks for the info so far. 2 Questions though:
|
| 1. I didn't realise that TY made DVD discs. I alweays use TY cd's when
| archiving Music shows. I've tried searching for distributors in the UK,
but
| no luck.
|
| 2. I can understand the idea of trying different media (just got 2 boxes
of
| 8x Datawrites that are supposedly Fuji) but I didn't realise that there
| would be a difference between Bulkbaq plusses and minus'. BP - discs work
| fine.
|
| As I say thanks so far...
|
| Dave Reid
|
|
|
| "MCheu" wrote in message
| ...
| On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 13:18:16 +0100, James Perrett
| wrote:
|
| Dave Reid wrote:
|
| Just bought a Pioneer 107D 8x+/8x- and cannot for the life of me get
it
| to
| burn + discs. I've burned 25 or so minus discs, but no + discs. So
far
| i've
| made 12 coasters of + discs and none from the -discs. It keeps
getting
| to
| the end of the burn and coming up with a different problem depending
on
| the
| software I use (Nero, Shrink, Stomp) An example would be this in
Nero:
|
| "Invalid field in command"
| "Could not perform end of disc-at-once"
|
| Using the very same files, I just burned it to a DVD-. I'm using
| Bulkpaq
| orange 4x Gen 4 discs for the - and Bulkpaq white 4x gen 4 discs for
| the +
|
| I have no idea where I'm going wrong - if I am indeed going wrong.
|
| TIA
|
| Dave Reid
|
| Probably a media problem. I'd suggest trying a reputable manufacturer
| like Verbatim (but not the 25 disc cake box which is actually made by
| CMC).
|
| Cheers.
|
| James.
|
| Best place to start for that might be Pioneer's recommended media
| list. Every manufacturer seems to have a list of media that they
| recommend for best results from their drives.
|
| Ridata, Taiyo Yuden, TDK, and even though CMC gets slammed a lot, CMC
| seems to make those lists quite often too.
| ---------------------------------------------
|
| MCheu
|
|

wrote:

James Perrett wrote:

Probably a media problem. I'd suggest trying a reputable manufacturer
like Verbatim (but not the 25 disc cake box which is actually made by
CMC).

Cheers.

James.

I know the media compatibility problem exists, yet never understood
why. If it's manufactured as a DVD+R, then why can't every DVD+R
burner deal with it correctly. If all DVD+R burners can't handle the
media then either the burner or the media manufacturer is misleading
the public. There ARE standards aren't there?

It's bad enough that we have DVD+R and DVD-R formats, why do we have
to deal with media incompatibilities?

Many people want to buy cheap media - unfortunately some manufacturers
catering for the low price market cut too many corners and therefore
reduce the quality. Things like reducing the time that the disc is in
the mould, reducing the dye thickness or changing the dye composition to
use cheaper chemicals. Some people see blank media manufacturing as a
way to make quick money and don't have the expertise to do it properly.

There has always been poor media on the market, reel to reel tapes that
deteriorate quickly or cassettes that jam easily were earlier examples,
so it should come as no surprise that badly made DVD media exists.

Cheers.

James.

Dave Reid wrote:

Thanks for the info so far. 2 Questions though:

1. I didn't realise that TY made DVD discs. I alweays use TY cd's when
archiving Music shows. I've tried searching for distributors in the UK, but
no luck.


I haven't got an example here to test, but I believe the Plextor DVD+R's
available from Ebuyer are made by TY. You can buy Verbatim blanks from a
variety of sources including http://www.blankdiskshop.co.uk

Cheers.

James.

On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 16:16:22 +0100, "Dave Reid"
wrote:

Thanks for the info so far. 2 Questions though:

1. I didn't realise that TY made DVD discs. I alweays use TY cd's when
archiving Music shows. I've tried searching for distributors in the UK, but
no luck.

2. I can understand the idea of trying different media (just got 2 boxes of
8x Datawrites that are supposedly Fuji) but I didn't realise that there
would be a difference between Bulkbaq plusses and minus'. BP - discs work
fine.


Can't help you on a source, but based on some posts over at
www.cdrinfo.com, the 'made in Japan' Fuji DVD-R discs are TY, so you
may already have a some TY discs.

I don't know who's using TY for +R discs.

There's a DVD Identifier program that you might find useful he

http://dvd.identifier.cdfreaks.com/

The forums at either www.cdrinfo.com and www.cdfreaks.com can be quite
helpful for tracking down local suppliers, and figuring out media
compatibility if you can't find Pioneer's recommended list.


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MCheu