Ghost 9.0's Copy Drive, Cloning & SP2

"Jan van Wijk" wrote in
news:W1d6fUB5m4qH-pn2-cdG139e8w7R1@merlin:

On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 23:23:13 UTC, "Eric Gisin"
wrote:

Thanks for that advice. I'll try to find a copy. But is there no
CURRENT program that will copy (clone, not image) from DOS?

www.dfsee.com: DOS and Win2K+.

Plus Linux and OS2 versions in the same package :-)

Downloadable version is FULL function, no crippleware.
Regsitration required for non-evaluation use only.

Regards, JvW


Thanks Jan

Odie Ferrous wrote in
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JP wrote:

I'm looking for a reliable "cloning" program. What I want to do is
simply clone (not image) my C: drive to my D: drive, so that in the
event of a C: drive failure I could just unplug the data cable from
C:, plug it into D:, adjust the BIOS, boot and go with a hard drive
that would be identical to where I last backed up by making the clone
and without doing anything else. (This is a cable-select
configuration.) I had PowerQuest's DirveImage which had a utility
called DriveCopy that did this very well, but when I installed
Service Pack 2 to my Win XP, it no longer worked. So I bought Norton
SystemWorks Premier 2005 which includes Ghost 9.0. Ghost's Copy
Drive feature appears to be terribly flawed with SP2, yielding error
message E7C3000F among other problems. Symantec's technical support
acknowledged that it is a known issue with no solution (but no word
of this on their Web site). Even worse, they gave me time-consuming
possible solutions which cost me many hours of testing to no avail.
I even used Memtest86. I see a lot of information on imaging on
these boards but very little on simply copying (cloning) one internal
hard drive to another. I looked into Seagate's DiskWizard, but the
folks there correctly state that it's not made for this and it
doesn't quite work right for cloning. Drive Snapshot apparently does
not have this capability. I'm looking for a program that will do
what PowerQuest's DriveCopy did, and after cloning I need to be able
to immediately test the results by powering down, switching the data
cable from C: to D:, boot into the BIOS then directly into XP with
exactly what I had on the old C:---just like I used to do when I
would test DriveCopy's clone. And I need this program to be known to
work with SP2. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Have a look at Casper XP. By far the best cloning package I have ever
used - basically a couple of clicks, copies 8GB in about 5 minutes.
Swap drives around, boots straight away.

I've just finished BETA testing this - it knocks the spots off the
competition.


Odie

I found Casper XP. If this lives up to its claims, it would be the best
cloning program yet and exactly what I need. Also, in the PC Magazine
review of this (a link to it is on the Casper site) it states: "The
Create Drive wizard is the equivalent of using Windows' built-in drive-
management console." Is this referring to Control Panel, Administrative
Tools, Computer Management, Disk Management or something else? Anyway,
I'm going to look into this. Thanks Odie.

"Timothy Daniels" wrote in news:9v-dnWm-
:

"Odie Ferrous" wrote:
Have a look at Casper XP. By far the best cloning
package I have ever used - basically a couple of clicks,
copies 8GB in about 5 minutes. Swap drives around,
boots straight away.

I've just finished BETA testing this - it knocks the spots
off the competition.


At Future Systems Solutions' website
http://www.fssdev.com/

Review in PCWorld (June 3, 2004):
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1606870,00.asp

*TimDaniels*

Perfect (I hope). Thanks again Tim.

JP wrote:


I found Casper XP. If this lives up to its claims, it would be the best
cloning program yet and exactly what I need. Also, in the PC Magazine
review of this (a link to it is on the Casper site) it states: "The
Create Drive wizard is the equivalent of using Windows' built-in drive-
management console." Is this referring to Control Panel, Administrative
Tools, Computer Management, Disk Management or something else? Anyway,
I'm going to look into this. Thanks Odie.

I do know they are still looking for beta testers.

Do a google groups search for CasperXP (or "casper XP") for details.


Odie
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RetroData
Data Recovery Experts
www.retrodata.co.uk

Odie Ferrous wrote in news:41BDC9D4.8E9DC0C9
@hotmail.com:

JP wrote:


I found Casper XP. If this lives up to its claims, it would be the best
cloning program yet and exactly what I need. Also, in the PC Magazine
review of this (a link to it is on the Casper site) it states: "The
Create Drive wizard is the equivalent of using Windows' built-in drive-
management console." Is this referring to Control Panel, Administrative
Tools, Computer Management, Disk Management or something else? Anyway,
I'm going to look into this. Thanks Odie.

I do know they are still looking for beta testers.

Do a google groups search for CasperXP (or "casper XP") for details.


Odie

Thanks again, Odie

Rather than the silly and sometimes unreliable method of software
duping, why not consider spending the money you've put into these into a
nice RAID card that supports mirroring?

This simple card would automatically mirror the drives live (ie. 100% of
the time), so that anytime one drive fails, you can swap directly to the
2nd working backup immediately w/o any downtime at all.

These cards sell for $40 everywhere from companies like Adaptec, etc.

"David Chien" wrote:
Rather than the silly and sometimes unreliable method
of software duping, why not consider spending the
money you've put into these into a nice RAID card that
supports mirroring?

This simple card would automatically mirror the drives
live (ie. 100% of the time), so that anytime one drive fails,
you can swap directly to the 2nd working backup
immediately w/o any downtime at all.


And if the OS should get hosed by some bad software
or by user error, the mirror OS gets hosed, too, and both
drives are useless. IOW, "mirroring" duplicates good and
bad without any time delay to allow you to say "Ooops!"
and then to back track.

*TimDaniels*

Timothy Daniels wrote:
"David Chien" wrote:
Rather than the silly and sometimes unreliable method
of software duping, why not consider spending the
money you've put into these into a nice RAID card that
supports mirroring?

This simple card would automatically mirror the drives
live (ie. 100% of the time), so that anytime one drive fails,
you can swap directly to the 2nd working backup
immediately w/o any downtime at all.


And if the OS should get hosed by some bad software
or by user error, the mirror OS gets hosed, too, and both
drives are useless. IOW, "mirroring" duplicates good and
bad without any time delay to allow you to say "Ooops!"
and then to back track.

If you want that with mirroring, just break the mirror (remove one drive)
at the time you want the "backup" to be frozen at.

This will work the same as any other drive cloning method.

Ghost et al are really just "offline raid 1" or "one-time raid 1 mirrors"

disclaimer
I myself use ghost 2003 to image backup the system to a bootable DVD -
I keep the system partition at 4Gb

--
Mike

"Mike Redrobe" wrote in news:sdzvd.36819$up1.33048
@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk:

Timothy Daniels wrote:
"David Chien" wrote:
Rather than the silly and sometimes unreliable method
of software duping, why not consider spending the
money you've put into these into a nice RAID card that
supports mirroring?

This simple card would automatically mirror the drives
live (ie. 100% of the time), so that anytime one drive fails,
you can swap directly to the 2nd working backup
immediately w/o any downtime at all.


And if the OS should get hosed by some bad software
or by user error, the mirror OS gets hosed, too, and both
drives are useless. IOW, "mirroring" duplicates good and
bad without any time delay to allow you to say "Ooops!"
and then to back track.

If you want that with mirroring, just break the mirror (remove one
drive)
at the time you want the "backup" to be frozen at.

This will work the same as any other drive cloning method.

Ghost et al are really just "offline raid 1" or "one-time raid 1
mirrors"

disclaimer
I myself use ghost 2003 to image backup the system to a bootable DVD -
I keep the system partition at 4Gb

--
Mike



I've thought about RAID, but I see it Tim's way. I clone once every few
days or once a week, depending on activity. But routinely removing one
drive then putting it back and duplicating the entire first drive to the
second then taking it off again, etc. would seem to be more trouble than
cloning for my purposes. But thanks for the suggestion.

I've thought about RAID, but I see it Tim's way. I clone once every few
days or once a week, depending on activity. But routinely removing one
drive then putting it back and duplicating the entire first drive to the
second then taking it off again, etc. would seem to be more trouble than
cloning for my purposes. But thanks for the suggestion.

5 1/2" 3.5" HD ejectable drive bays for ~$20 anywhere online!

You simply have the drive(s) docked into these ejectable bays, so
anytime you want to on-line a drive, simply insert before startup.
Then, make the backup, power down, and put the backup drive somewhere
safe (ie. not in the same office/room/house!).

You can have the best of both worlds with such an easy setup.

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