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Old December 12th 04, 04:35 AM
JP
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I'm looking for a reliable "cloning" program. What I want to do is simply
clone (not image) my C: drive to my D: drive, so that in the event of a C:
drive failure I could just unplug the data cable from C:, plug it into D:,
adjust the BIOS, boot and go with a hard drive that would be identical to
where I last backed up by making the clone and without doing anything else.
(This is a cable-select configuration.) I had PowerQuest's DirveImage
which had a utility called DriveCopy that did this very well, but when I
installed Service Pack 2 to my Win XP, it no longer worked. So I bought
Norton SystemWorks Premier 2005 which includes Ghost 9.0. Ghost's Copy
Drive feature appears to be terribly flawed with SP2, yielding error
message E7C3000F among other problems. Symantec's technical support
acknowledged that it is a known issue with no solution (but no word of this
on their Web site). Even worse, they gave me time-consuming possible
solutions which cost me many hours of testing to no avail. I even used
Memtest86. I see a lot of information on imaging on these boards but very
little on simply copying (cloning) one internal hard drive to another. I
looked into Seagate's DiskWizard, but the folks there correctly state that
it's not made for this and it doesn't quite work right for cloning. Drive
Snapshot apparently does not have this capability. I'm looking for a
program that will do what PowerQuest's DriveCopy did, and after cloning I
need to be able to immediately test the results by powering down, switching
the data cable from C: to D:, boot into the BIOS then directly into XP with
exactly what I had on the old C:---just like I used to do when I would test
DriveCopy's clone. And I need this program to be known to work with SP2.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Old December 12th 04, 06:14 AM
J. Clarke
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JP wrote:

I'm looking for a reliable "cloning" program. What I want to do is simply
clone (not image) my C: drive to my D: drive, so that in the event of a C:
drive failure I could just unplug the data cable from C:, plug it into D:,
adjust the BIOS, boot and go with a hard drive that would be identical to
where I last backed up by making the clone and without doing anything
else.
(This is a cable-select configuration.) I had PowerQuest's DirveImage
which had a utility called DriveCopy that did this very well, but when I
installed Service Pack 2 to my Win XP, it no longer worked. So I bought
Norton SystemWorks Premier 2005 which includes Ghost 9.0. Ghost's Copy
Drive feature appears to be terribly flawed with SP2, yielding error
message E7C3000F among other problems. Symantec's technical support
acknowledged that it is a known issue with no solution (but no word of
this
on their Web site). Even worse, they gave me time-consuming possible
solutions which cost me many hours of testing to no avail. I even used
Memtest86. I see a lot of information on imaging on these boards but very
little on simply copying (cloning) one internal hard drive to another. I
looked into Seagate's DiskWizard, but the folks there correctly state that
it's not made for this and it doesn't quite work right for cloning. Drive
Snapshot apparently does not have this capability. I'm looking for a
program that will do what PowerQuest's DriveCopy did, and after cloning I
need to be able to immediately test the results by powering down,
switching the data cable from C: to D:, boot into the BIOS then directly
into XP with exactly what I had on the old C:---just like I used to do
when I would test
DriveCopy's clone. And I need this program to be known to work with SP2.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.


Why don't you just mirror the drives?

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--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
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Old December 12th 04, 12:00 PM
JP
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"J. Clarke" wrote in
:

JP wrote:

I'm looking for a reliable "cloning" program. What I want to do is
simply clone (not image) my C: drive to my D: drive, so that in the
event of a C: drive failure I could just unplug the data cable from
C:, plug it into D:, adjust the BIOS, boot and go with a hard drive
that would be identical to where I last backed up by making the clone
and without doing anything else.
(This is a cable-select configuration.) I had PowerQuest's
DirveImage which had a utility called DriveCopy that did this very
well, but when I installed Service Pack 2 to my Win XP, it no longer
worked. So I bought Norton SystemWorks Premier 2005 which includes
Ghost 9.0. Ghost's Copy Drive feature appears to be terribly flawed
with SP2, yielding error message E7C3000F among other problems.
Symantec's technical support acknowledged that it is a known issue
with no solution (but no word of this
on their Web site). Even worse, they gave me time-consuming possible
solutions which cost me many hours of testing to no avail. I even
used Memtest86. I see a lot of information on imaging on these
boards but very little on simply copying (cloning) one internal hard
drive to another. I looked into Seagate's DiskWizard, but the folks
there correctly state that it's not made for this and it doesn't
quite work right for cloning. Drive Snapshot apparently does not
have this capability. I'm looking for a program that will do what
PowerQuest's DriveCopy did, and after cloning I need to be able to
immediately test the results by powering down, switching the data
cable from C: to D:, boot into the BIOS then directly into XP with
exactly what I had on the old C:---just like I used to do when I
would test DriveCopy's clone. And I need this program to be known to
work with SP2. Any help would be greatly appreciated.


Why don't you just mirror the drives?


Thanks, John, for your reply. But how do I mirror the drives?
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Old December 12th 04, 02:30 PM
J. Clarke
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JP wrote:

"J. Clarke" wrote in
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JP wrote:

I'm looking for a reliable "cloning" program. What I want to do is
simply clone (not image) my C: drive to my D: drive, so that in the
event of a C: drive failure I could just unplug the data cable from
C:, plug it into D:, adjust the BIOS, boot and go with a hard drive
that would be identical to where I last backed up by making the clone
and without doing anything else.
(This is a cable-select configuration.) I had PowerQuest's
DirveImage which had a utility called DriveCopy that did this very
well, but when I installed Service Pack 2 to my Win XP, it no longer
worked. So I bought Norton SystemWorks Premier 2005 which includes
Ghost 9.0. Ghost's Copy Drive feature appears to be terribly flawed
with SP2, yielding error message E7C3000F among other problems.
Symantec's technical support acknowledged that it is a known issue
with no solution (but no word of this
on their Web site). Even worse, they gave me time-consuming possible
solutions which cost me many hours of testing to no avail. I even
used Memtest86. I see a lot of information on imaging on these
boards but very little on simply copying (cloning) one internal hard
drive to another. I looked into Seagate's DiskWizard, but the folks
there correctly state that it's not made for this and it doesn't
quite work right for cloning. Drive Snapshot apparently does not
have this capability. I'm looking for a program that will do what
PowerQuest's DriveCopy did, and after cloning I need to be able to
immediately test the results by powering down, switching the data
cable from C: to D:, boot into the BIOS then directly into XP with
exactly what I had on the old C:---just like I used to do when I
would test DriveCopy's clone. And I need this program to be known to
work with SP2. Any help would be greatly appreciated.


Why don't you just mirror the drives?


Thanks, John, for your reply. But how do I mirror the drives?


If you are running Linux or any server version of Windows the capability is
native in the operating system. If not then you need a disk controller
that supports that. Many motherboards come with the capability built in.
If yours doesn't then take a look at the Promise, Highpoint, 3Ware, LSI
Logic, and Tekram sites for a wide range of solutions.

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--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
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Old December 12th 04, 05:34 PM
JP
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"J. Clarke" wrote in
:

JP wrote:

"J. Clarke" wrote in
:

JP wrote:

I'm looking for a reliable "cloning" program. What I want to do is
simply clone (not image) my C: drive to my D: drive, so that in the
event of a C: drive failure I could just unplug the data cable from
C:, plug it into D:, adjust the BIOS, boot and go with a hard drive
that would be identical to where I last backed up by making the
clone and without doing anything else.
(This is a cable-select configuration.) I had PowerQuest's
DirveImage which had a utility called DriveCopy that did this very
well, but when I installed Service Pack 2 to my Win XP, it no
longer worked. So I bought Norton SystemWorks Premier 2005 which
includes Ghost 9.0. Ghost's Copy Drive feature appears to be
terribly flawed with SP2, yielding error message E7C3000F among
other problems. Symantec's technical support acknowledged that it
is a known issue with no solution (but no word of this
on their Web site). Even worse, they gave me time-consuming
possible solutions which cost me many hours of testing to no avail.
I even used Memtest86. I see a lot of information on imaging on
these boards but very little on simply copying (cloning) one
internal hard drive to another. I looked into Seagate's
DiskWizard, but the folks there correctly state that it's not made
for this and it doesn't quite work right for cloning. Drive
Snapshot apparently does not have this capability. I'm looking for
a program that will do what PowerQuest's DriveCopy did, and after
cloning I need to be able to immediately test the results by
powering down, switching the data cable from C: to D:, boot into
the BIOS then directly into XP with exactly what I had on the old
C:---just like I used to do when I would test DriveCopy's clone.
And I need this program to be known to work with SP2. Any help
would be greatly appreciated.

Why don't you just mirror the drives?


Thanks, John, for your reply. But how do I mirror the drives?


If you are running Linux or any server version of Windows the
capability is native in the operating system. If not then you need a
disk controller that supports that. Many motherboards come with the
capability built in. If yours doesn't then take a look at the Promise,
Highpoint, 3Ware, LSI Logic, and Tekram sites for a wide range of
solutions.


Thanks again John, I'll look into that.
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Old December 12th 04, 08:23 AM
Timothy Daniels
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"JP" wrote:
I'm looking for a reliable "cloning" program. What I want to do
is simply clone (not image) my C: drive to my D: drive, so that
in the event of a C: drive failure I could just unplug the data cable
from C:, plug it into D:, adjust the BIOS, boot and go with a
hard drive that would be identical to where I last backed up
by making the clone and without doing anything else.
(This is a cable-select configuration.)



It doesn't matter if it's Cable Select or explicitly jumpered.
If the Master disappears, the Slave will be next in line in
the boot sequence automatically. Or you can set the boot
sequence manually to put the Slave at the head of the
boot sequence. In short, Master/Slave does not matter
for booting.


I had PowerQuest's DirveImage which had a utility called
DriveCopy that did this very well, but when I installed
Service Pack 2 to my Win XP, it no longer worked. So I bought
Norton SystemWorks Premier 2005 which includes Ghost 9.0.
Ghost's Copy Drive feature appears to be terribly flawed with
SP2, yielding error message E7C3000F among other problems.
Symantec's technical support acknowledged that it is a known
issue with no solution (but no word of this on their Web site).
[...........]
I'm looking for a program that will do what PowerQuest's
DriveCopy did, and after cloning I need to be able to
immediately test the results by powering down, switching
the data cable from C: to D:, boot into the BIOS then directly
into XP with exactly what I had on the old C:---just like I used
to do when I would test DriveCopy's clone. And I need this
program to be known to work with SP2.



You may need Microsoft's .NET Framework re-installed. I use
PowerQuest's Drive Copy 7.1, the precursor to Ghost 9.0, and
it works fine with WinXP SP2. BTW, if you put the power cable
for disk 1 on a DPST toggle switch, you won't have to disconnect
its cables to switch to disk 2. If you toggle it OFF (while it's
powered DOWN!), it won't be visible upon startup. But don't let
disk 2's WinXP clone see it again until the clone has been booted
up for the 1st time in isolation, or the clone will forever depend on
the continued presence of the original in order to function. (This
latter fact was contributed by a poster here named Rod Speed.)

*TimDaniels*
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Old December 12th 04, 12:31 PM
JP
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"Timothy Daniels" wrote in
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"JP" wrote:
I'm looking for a reliable "cloning" program. What I want to do
is simply clone (not image) my C: drive to my D: drive, so that
in the event of a C: drive failure I could just unplug the data cable
from C:, plug it into D:, adjust the BIOS, boot and go with a
hard drive that would be identical to where I last backed up
by making the clone and without doing anything else.
(This is a cable-select configuration.)



It doesn't matter if it's Cable Select or explicitly jumpered.
If the Master disappears, the Slave will be next in line in
the boot sequence automatically. Or you can set the boot
sequence manually to put the Slave at the head of the
boot sequence. In short, Master/Slave does not matter
for booting.


I had PowerQuest's DirveImage which had a utility called
DriveCopy that did this very well, but when I installed
Service Pack 2 to my Win XP, it no longer worked. So I bought
Norton SystemWorks Premier 2005 which includes Ghost 9.0.
Ghost's Copy Drive feature appears to be terribly flawed with
SP2, yielding error message E7C3000F among other problems.
Symantec's technical support acknowledged that it is a known
issue with no solution (but no word of this on their Web site).
[...........]
I'm looking for a program that will do what PowerQuest's
DriveCopy did, and after cloning I need to be able to
immediately test the results by powering down, switching
the data cable from C: to D:, boot into the BIOS then directly
into XP with exactly what I had on the old C:---just like I used
to do when I would test DriveCopy's clone. And I need this
program to be known to work with SP2.



You may need Microsoft's .NET Framework re-installed. I use
PowerQuest's Drive Copy 7.1, the precursor to Ghost 9.0, and
it works fine with WinXP SP2. BTW, if you put the power cable
for disk 1 on a DPST toggle switch, you won't have to disconnect
its cables to switch to disk 2. If you toggle it OFF (while it's
powered DOWN!), it won't be visible upon startup. But don't let
disk 2's WinXP clone see it again until the clone has been booted
up for the 1st time in isolation, or the clone will forever depend

on
the continued presence of the original in order to function.

(This
latter fact was contributed by a poster here named Rod Speed.)

*TimDaniels*


Tim:
I didn't know that about the boot sequence. Thanks. I'll keep all that
in mind if I'm ever able to once again clone my C: drive to D: like I
used to do. Also it's very interesting that you are using PQ's
DriveCopy 7.1 with SP2. I was using DriveImage (which includes
DriveCopy) 2002. I don't know if that's earlier or later than your
version 7.1 as I can find no other version number. If you or someone
else knows, please let me know. Also, how would you reinstall (only?)
..NET Framework? Anyway, it is encouraging that you are using PQ's
DriveCopy. I am going to try again to get it to work for me. Thanks
again.
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Old December 12th 04, 06:45 PM
Timothy Daniels
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"JP" wrote:
[......] it's very interesting that you are using PQ's
DriveCopy 7.1 with SP2. I was using DriveImage
(which includes DriveCopy) 2002. I don't know if
that's earlier or later than your version 7.1 as I can
find no other version number. If you or someone
else knows, please let me know.



Drive Image 7.0 was the last version issued on CD
by PowerQuest (that I know of). Versions 7.1 and
7.2 (possibly called "7.01" and "7.02" were
downloadable fixes to bugs in 7.0 . The included
copy of Drive Image 2002 worked only miserably
for me as it wouldn't do DMA and it took more
than an hour to copy 20GB. When I finally figured
out what .NET Framework was and how to get it,
its installation solved the version 7.0 problem.


Also, how would you reinstall (only?) .NET Framework?



Start/Settings/Control Panel/Add or Remove Programs/
Microsoft .NET Framework/Remove

Then download another copy from Microsoft and
install it again. For version 1.1 of the .NET Framework
Redistributable Package, go to:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

If that doesn't work, try re-installing Ghost 9.0, as it's
possible that it might need Framework to already
be there when it's installed. (In fact, the PowerQuest
User's Guide said that explicitly.)

*TimDaniels*


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Old December 12th 04, 10:12 PM
JP
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"Timothy Daniels" wrote in
:

"JP" wrote:
[......] it's very interesting that you are using PQ's
DriveCopy 7.1 with SP2. I was using DriveImage
(which includes DriveCopy) 2002. I don't know if
that's earlier or later than your version 7.1 as I can
find no other version number. If you or someone
else knows, please let me know.



Drive Image 7.0 was the last version issued on CD
by PowerQuest (that I know of). Versions 7.1 and
7.2 (possibly called "7.01" and "7.02" were
downloadable fixes to bugs in 7.0 . The included
copy of Drive Image 2002 worked only miserably
for me as it wouldn't do DMA and it took more
than an hour to copy 20GB. When I finally figured
out what .NET Framework was and how to get it,
its installation solved the version 7.0 problem.


Also, how would you reinstall (only?) .NET Framework?



Start/Settings/Control Panel/Add or Remove Programs/
Microsoft .NET Framework/Remove

Then download another copy from Microsoft and
install it again. For version 1.1 of the .NET Framework
Redistributable Package, go to:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...lyID=262d25e3-

f589-
4842-8157-034d1e7cf3a3&displaylang=en

If that doesn't work, try re-installing Ghost 9.0, as it's
possible that it might need Framework to already
be there when it's installed. (In fact, the PowerQuest
User's Guide said that explicitly.)

*TimDaniels*



Well, I had and I removed Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 then reinstalled
from Microsoft's site to no avail. I have the same problem with Ghost
and PowerQuest's DriveCopy still doesn't work but it now has a different
problem. It displays

"Error 91: Disk Manager has been detected on drive 1, but disk manager
is not running. If you are booting from a floppy, remove the floppy
disk and reboot. Press and hold the Space Bar key as your computer
restarts. When prompted insert your boot floppy and continue booting."

[I was not booting from a floppy.]
The only thing I haven't tried is the suggestion to uninstall/reinstall
Ghost after the reinstall of .NET Framework 1.1. I hesitate to do this
as this Ghost is intertwined with Norton SystemWorks Premier 2005 which
includes AnitVirus (the only program Symantec has that I've tried and
works correctly almost all of the time). I would have to uninstall the
entire package and reinstall, gambling that it would all go smoothly
including reinstatement of my subscription. A tall order given
Symantec's track record. In taking that risk I would be betting that
this is the trick that works while all others failed. I would do it if
someone had this specific issue that was solved by this method, but as
far as I can tell, that's not the case. Interestingly, a Google search
of

E7C3000F Ghost

doesn't produce much. I'm about ready to give up and hope that with
time Symantec identifies and/or fixes this issue.

Thank you all.
  #10  
Old December 12th 04, 05:12 PM
Michael Kimmer
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JP wrote:
I'm looking for a reliable "cloning" program. What I want to do is
simply clone (not image) my C: drive to my D: drive, so that in the
event of a C: drive failure I could just unplug the data cable from
C:, plug it into D:, adjust the BIOS, boot and go with a hard drive
that would be identical to where I last backed up by making the clone
and without doing anything else. (This is a cable-select
configuration.) I had PowerQuest's DirveImage which had a utility
called DriveCopy that did this very well, but when I installed
Service Pack 2 to my Win XP, it no longer worked. So I bought Norton
SystemWorks Premier 2005 which includes Ghost 9.0. Ghost's Copy
Drive feature appears to be terribly flawed with SP2, yielding error
message E7C3000F among other problems. Symantec's technical support
acknowledged that it is a known issue with no solution (but no word
of this on their Web site). Even worse, they gave me time-consuming
possible solutions which cost me many hours of testing to no avail.
I even used Memtest86. I see a lot of information on imaging on
these boards but very little on simply copying (cloning) one internal
hard drive to another. I looked into Seagate's DiskWizard, but the
folks there correctly state that it's not made for this and it
doesn't quite work right for cloning. Drive Snapshot apparently does
not have this capability. I'm looking for a program that will do
what PowerQuest's DriveCopy did, and after cloning I need to be able
to immediately test the results by powering down, switching the data
cable from C: to D:, boot into the BIOS then directly into XP with
exactly what I had on the old C:---just like I used to do when I
would test DriveCopy's clone. And I need this program to be known to
work with SP2. Any help would be greatly appreciated.


What are "error message E7C3000F among other problems"...? The SnapShot
technology is, in your case, apparently not able to take a snapshot of those
sectors that show problems...
So what "time-consuming possible solutions which costed you hours of testing
...." have you tried...?

--
M.f.G.
Michael Kimmer

"Ein Tag an dem Du nicht lächelst ist ein verlorener Tag"
"Eine Nacht in der Du nicht schläfst ist eine verschlafene Nacht"


 




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