SATA Port0-3 Native Mode and RAID problem

"Paul" wrote in message ...
Beemer wrote:
"Paul" wrote in message ...
Beemer wrote:
My GA EP45-DS3P has six sata ports (0-5) I have all in use and my
RAID 1 pair are connected to ports 4 and 5.

I have used F6 when installing XP to load the Intel ICH10R driver. I
then used Ctrl-I to load the Intel Matrix Storage manager to configure
my SATA 1 pair.

My Bios Rev 7 has CMOS setup page with

SATA RAID/AHCI MOde = RAID
SATA Port0-3 Native Mode = Enabled

On booting I get the BSOD error Stop 0x0000007B ( etc)

For some reason I do not understand F12 to enter boot menu doe not work
with RAID enabled. I wanted to use this to check if (after enabling
RAID) it is trying to boot from the wrong drive.

Anyhow my question relates to SATA Port0-3 Native Mode. Why is only
0-3 mentioned and not 0-5? There is nothing in the manual to advise on
this. Does it mean that the porfts 4-5 I have used for the RAID are in
Legacy mode and this is why I cannot boot?

One other thing I noticed is that when booting before the blue screen ,
the post screen shows

"Serial ATA AHCI Bios ver iSrc 1.07 08042006", then I get a
list of my six drives all of which are post screen marked as controlled
by RAID driver

Why then does it mention AHCI when I do not have AHCI selected in the
bios? The RAID driver was loaded using F6 from a floppy with the files

iaAHCI.cat
iaAHCI.inf
iaStor.cat
iaStor.inf
IaStor.sys
license.txt
TXTSETUP.OEM

My next move is to try connecting the RAID to ports 2 and 3 but I will
first wait to see if I get any response here.

regards,

Beemer
My guess is, it'll work once the array is moved to 0..3 .

The Spec Update and table "Intel ICH10 Corporate Device
and Revision ID", hints at the separation of the ports.

http://www.intel.com/Assets/PDF/specupdate/319974.pdf

The datasheet, shows the SATA ports are split across two
controllers. 0..3 are on one controller, 4..5 on another.
I don't think Intel did a "programmer's guide" for this
chip, at least I don't see one for download, so I'd have
to guess at the symptoms to be expected. Since "soft RAID"
is what a chip like this provides, at least for RAID purposes,
all the ports should be equal. Whether the firmware/software
chooses to run them that way, is purely a software design
decision by somebody.

http://www.intel.com/Assets/PDF/datasheet/319973.pdf

Paul

Paul,

Following you reply I moved the RAID pair from SATA ports 4-5 to 2-3.
After setting RAID on and Port0-3 Native on I am disappointed that I am
still getting BSOD with the Stop: 0x0000007B message.

I am confused about whether I should have the Intel Matrix Storage
Manager (MSM) software installed? Somehow I thought that on this GA
EP45-DS3P motherboard this was already on a ROM? I have downloaded the
MSM software from the Intel site but the release note shows that ICH10 is
not listed only up to ICH9. When I try to load the software Iit fails
with the message "This computer does not meet the minimum requirements
for installing the software"

My RAID pair has been initialised although the Cntrl-I menu although when
RAID is switched off the two drives although active have not been
partitioned?

It should not be so difficult to set RAID up. I even made a fresh XP
install and double checked when using F6 that the correct ICH10 RAID
driver was selected

regards,

Beemer


What driver did you install during the Windows install ?

Did you F6 an AHCI driver ? Did you F6 a RAID driver ?
If RAID is enabled, the RAID array was set up in the BIOS,
Windows was installed, some driver was added via F6, this
should be working.

"RAID Management" exists in two places. On some motherboards,
pressing Control-I brings you into the BIOS version of Intel
RAID Management. If you set up a RAID mirror in there, then
you might have to wait a few hours, for the data on one drive
to be copied to the other (assuming an OS image was already
present).

If you install just one hard drive, install via F6 a RAID
driver, boot into Windows with one drive, install the
downloadable Intel RAID Management console, then you
can control RAID from within Windows. After all that is
done, shut down the computer and add the second drive.
(At this point, no array exists). Boot into Windows again,
and run the Intel RAID Management software. If you tell the
software to set up a RAID 1 mirror, and the OS image
obviously already exists, the software runs in the background,
to make the two disks identical.

The advantage of the Windows RAID Management console, is things
can go on in the background. While using the BIOS method,
may require doing it in the foreground (tying up the computer).
(Depends on whether you need to initialize the array and have
data copied from one drive to the other.)

The README here mentions ICH10R.

http://downloadmirror.intel.com/17059/eng/readme.txt

That is from the download page at Intel, for 8.6.0.1007.

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/filt...4&submit=Go%21

The driver and software works based on the enumeration of the hardware.

For ICH10R, the enumeration numbers offered by the Southbridge,
can be seen in the Spec Update document. What I do, is compare
the numbers in the table, against the numbers in the INF for
the floppy driver install. That may explain what is happening.
(For example, what would happen if the driver didn't actually
install, while the disks were on ports 4 and 5 ?)

http://www.intel.com/Assets/PDF/specupdate/319974.pdf (page 9)

Paul

Paul,

that is a good point. On a separate matter this MB has an illuminated
button for cmos reset. The manual does not mention this or whether the
power must be off the use it. (Seems pointless to have it illuminated if
the power must be off to use it) ?@

regards,

Beemer

I reason I asked is because you state below that "I have used F6 when
installing XP to load the Intel ICH10R driver." Also in your reply to
Onsokumaru you said "Yes I made a fresh XP install and used the F6 to
select the ICH10R Raid driver."

If you have an existing XP installation that was installed with SATA
RAID/AHCI Mode set to Disabled, and you then switch SATA RAID/AHCI
Mode to RAID, your first goal is to get XP to boot without error. The
usual way of fixing XP is to perform a repair install that involves
booting from the XP CD, using F6 to load the Intel RAID driver, and
select the repair install option.

If repair install does not enable the existing XP installation to boot
with the SATA interface in RAID mode, then you're going to have to
modify the registry as described at various web sites.

Only after getting XP to boot should you then concern yourself with
setting up the RAID array.

On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:40:38 -0000, "Beemer"
wrote:

Andy,

No the XP boot drive is not part of the Raid

Beemer
"andy" wrote in message
.. .
In your initial message on Oct. 18, you had Windows XP on a non-raid
drive. Are you now trying to install XP on the raid drive and getting
the boot error?

On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 17:02:00 -0000, "Beemer"
wrote:

My GA EP45-DS3P has six sata ports (0-5) I have all in use and my RAID 1
pair are connected to ports 4 and 5.

I have used F6 when installing XP to load the Intel ICH10R driver. I then
used Ctrl-I to load the Intel Matrix Storage manager to configure my SATA
1
pair.

My Bios Rev 7 has CMOS setup page with

SATA RAID/AHCI MOde = RAID
SATA Port0-3 Native Mode = Enabled

On booting I get the BSOD error Stop 0x0000007B ( etc)

For some reason I do not understand F12 to enter boot menu doe not work
with
RAID enabled. I wanted to use this to check if (after enabling RAID) it
is
trying to boot from the wrong drive.

Anyhow my question relates to SATA Port0-3 Native Mode. Why is only 0-3
mentioned and not 0-5? There is nothing in the manual to advise on this.
Does it mean that the porfts 4-5 I have used for the RAID are in Legacy
mode
and this is why I cannot boot?

One other thing I noticed is that when booting before the blue screen ,
the
post screen shows

"Serial ATA AHCI Bios ver iSrc 1.07 08042006", then I get a list
of
my six drives all of which are post screen marked as controlled by RAID
driver

Why then does it mention AHCI when I do not have AHCI selected in the
bios?
The RAID driver was loaded using F6 from a floppy with the files

iaAHCI.cat
iaAHCI.inf
iaStor.cat
iaStor.inf
IaStor.sys
license.txt
TXTSETUP.OEM

My next move is to try connecting the RAID to ports 2 and 3 but I will
first
wait to see if I get any response here.

regards,

Beemer

Andy,

I thought my original post was clear. It said:

"My GA EP45-DS3P has six sata ports (0-5) I have all in use and my RAID 1
pair are connected to ports 4 and 5.

I have used F6 when installing XP to load the Intel ICH10R driver. I then
used Ctrl-I to load the Intel Matrix Storage manager to configure my SATA 1
pair".

You also quoted this but then wnet on to say

" " If you have an existing XP installation that was installed with SATA
RAID/AHCI Mode set to Disabled, and you then switch SATA RAID/AHCI
Mode to RAID, your first goal is to get XP to boot without error" "

I was installing the Raid driver as the manual states at the time of
installing a fresh XP.

The only other thing I am unclear about is whether I should have had Raid
selected in the Award Bios before starting the fresh Xp installation

regards,

Beemer



"andy" wrote in message
...
I reason I asked is because you state below that "I have used F6 when
installing XP to load the Intel ICH10R driver." Also in your reply to
Onsokumaru you said "Yes I made a fresh XP install and used the F6 to
select the ICH10R Raid driver."

If you have an existing XP installation that was installed with SATA
RAID/AHCI Mode set to Disabled, and you then switch SATA RAID/AHCI
Mode to RAID, your first goal is to get XP to boot without error. The
usual way of fixing XP is to perform a repair install that involves
booting from the XP CD, using F6 to load the Intel RAID driver, and
select the repair install option.

If repair install does not enable the existing XP installation to boot
with the SATA interface in RAID mode, then you're going to have to
modify the registry as described at various web sites.

Only after getting XP to boot should you then concern yourself with
setting up the RAID array.

On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:40:38 -0000, "Beemer"
wrote:

Andy,

No the XP boot drive is not part of the Raid

Beemer
"andy" wrote in message
. ..
In your initial message on Oct. 18, you had Windows XP on a non-raid
drive. Are you now trying to install XP on the raid drive and getting
the boot error?

On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 17:02:00 -0000, "Beemer"
wrote:

My GA EP45-DS3P has six sata ports (0-5) I have all in use and my RAID
1
pair are connected to ports 4 and 5.

I have used F6 when installing XP to load the Intel ICH10R driver. I
then
used Ctrl-I to load the Intel Matrix Storage manager to configure my
SATA
1
pair.

My Bios Rev 7 has CMOS setup page with

SATA RAID/AHCI MOde = RAID
SATA Port0-3 Native Mode = Enabled

On booting I get the BSOD error Stop 0x0000007B ( etc)

For some reason I do not understand F12 to enter boot menu doe not work
with
RAID enabled. I wanted to use this to check if (after enabling RAID) it
is
trying to boot from the wrong drive.

Anyhow my question relates to SATA Port0-3 Native Mode. Why is only
0-3
mentioned and not 0-5? There is nothing in the manual to advise on
this.
Does it mean that the porfts 4-5 I have used for the RAID are in Legacy
mode
and this is why I cannot boot?

One other thing I noticed is that when booting before the blue screen ,
the
post screen shows

"Serial ATA AHCI Bios ver iSrc 1.07 08042006", then I get a
list
of
my six drives all of which are post screen marked as controlled by RAID
driver

Why then does it mention AHCI when I do not have AHCI selected in the
bios?
The RAID driver was loaded using F6 from a floppy with the files

iaAHCI.cat
iaAHCI.inf
iaStor.cat
iaStor.inf
IaStor.sys
license.txt
TXTSETUP.OEM

My next move is to try connecting the RAID to ports 2 and 3 but I will
first
wait to see if I get any response here.

regards,

Beemer

Beemer wrote:
Andy,

I thought my original post was clear. It said:

"My GA EP45-DS3P has six sata ports (0-5) I have all in use and my RAID 1
pair are connected to ports 4 and 5.

I have used F6 when installing XP to load the Intel ICH10R driver. I then
used Ctrl-I to load the Intel Matrix Storage manager to configure my SATA 1
pair".

You also quoted this but then wnet on to say

" " If you have an existing XP installation that was installed with SATA
RAID/AHCI Mode set to Disabled, and you then switch SATA RAID/AHCI
Mode to RAID, your first goal is to get XP to boot without error" "

I was installing the Raid driver as the manual states at the time of
installing a fresh XP.

The only other thing I am unclear about is whether I should have had Raid
selected in the Award Bios before starting the fresh Xp installation

regards,

Beemer


They make it sound like AHCI or RAID would have worked as a setting
here. The old procedure (for much older chipsets like mine), suggested
the BIOS be set to RAID, before installing the OS (Intel called that
being "RAID Ready"). That was to allow a smooth transition to using
RAID later. But with the AHCI option now being available, that is
also supposed to be a stepping stone to being RAID Ready.

http://tastycomputers.com/support/do...ata_ich7-9.htm

Paul

On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 07:53:04 -0000, "Beemer"
wrote:

Andy,

I thought my original post was clear. It said:

"My GA EP45-DS3P has six sata ports (0-5) I have all in use and my RAID 1
pair are connected to ports 4 and 5.

I have used F6 when installing XP to load the Intel ICH10R driver. I then
used Ctrl-I to load the Intel Matrix Storage manager to configure my SATA 1
pair".

You also quoted this but then wnet on to say

" " If you have an existing XP installation that was installed with SATA
RAID/AHCI Mode set to Disabled, and you then switch SATA RAID/AHCI
Mode to RAID, your first goal is to get XP to boot without error" "

I was installing the Raid driver as the manual states at the time of
installing a fresh XP.

The only other thing I am unclear about is whether I should have had Raid
selected in the Award Bios before starting the fresh Xp installation

The answer is yes


regards,

Beemer