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IP Camera as a viable security camera alternative ?
There is an ongoing discussion thread on IP camera. I saw some good
discussions about security system installers putting IP cameras in shops. I checked out the web site shown in the discussion thread. It seems that all the functions needed for a typical shop are all there (motion detection, video recording, video output to quad processor and monitor, ...). The video quality also looks good. Based on the price given on the company's web site, I can put together a system with four cameras that cost $400 instead of the $1000 or so that I am buying now for four cameras, video capture card, and software. Also, there is no wiring issue, no hardware board installation issue. ... Am I missing something? Is the IP camera replacing the traditional camera/video capture card approach? Is it better for us to recommend our customer to go with the IP camera approach? |
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"Peter" wrote in message om... There is an ongoing discussion thread on IP camera. I saw some good discussions about security system installers putting IP cameras in shops. I checked out the web site shown in the discussion thread. It seems that all the functions needed for a typical shop are all there (motion detection, video recording, video output to quad processor and monitor, ...). The video quality also looks good. Based on the price given on the company's web site, I can put together a system with four cameras that cost $400 instead of the $1000 or so that I am buying now for four cameras, video capture card, and software. Also, there is no wiring issue, no hardware board installation issue. ... Am I missing something? Is the IP camera replacing the traditional camera/video capture card approach? Is it better for us to recommend our customer to go with the IP camera approach? Consider HomeSentinel. It might do what you want for a lot less. Try the free, unlimited Basic version at http://appsoft.vze.com. -- Bob Day |
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"Bob Day" wrote in message .. .
"Peter" wrote in message om... There is an ongoing discussion thread on IP camera. I saw some good discussions about security system installers putting IP cameras in shops. I checked out the web site shown in the discussion thread. It seems that all the functions needed for a typical shop are all there (motion detection, video recording, video output to quad processor and monitor, ...). The video quality also looks good. Based on the price given on the company's web site, I can put together a system with four cameras that cost $400 instead of the $1000 or so that I am buying now for four cameras, video capture card, and software. Also, there is no wiring issue, no hardware board installation issue. ... Am I missing something? Is the IP camera replacing the traditional camera/video capture card approach? Is it better for us to recommend our customer to go with the IP camera approach? Consider HomeSentinel. It might do what you want for a lot less. Try the free, unlimited Basic version at http://appsoft.vze.com. -- Bob Day Dear Bob, Please do now use this thread as a way for you to advertise your product. What you will get is negative advertisement. For eample, your HomeSentinel product uses Windows Media Encoder which will have a hugh delay of 8-15 seconds. It is not suitable for security applications. The Windows Media Encoder will also use close to 100% of the CPU so it will take up to 20 watts more power which costs money. Also, how are you going to connect four webcams around the building when the USB cable can only go up to 12 feet? If you can not solve these problems, you still need to go back to my video capture card approach. Beside the camera/video capture card approach that I am using now, the IP camera is the only viable approach that I can find which does not have any of the problems your product has. Peter |
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Don Wiss wrote in
: But are any of the IP cameras weatherproof? I have yet to see one that is. My future application (which is why I read these threads) is to monitor my front doors. Most CCTV cameras (non-bullet types) are not weather proof either and require a housing. -- Lucas Tam ) Please delete "REMOVE" from the e-mail address when replying. http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/coolspot18/ |
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"Don Wiss" wrote in message ... On 9 Jun 2004 00:36:55 -0700, (Peter) wrote: There is an ongoing discussion thread on IP camera. I saw some good discussions about security system installers putting IP cameras in shops. I checked out the web site shown in the discussion thread. It seems that all the functions needed for a typical shop are all there (motion detection, video recording, video output to quad processor and monitor, ...). The video quality also looks good. But are any of the IP cameras weatherproof? I have yet to see one that is. My future application (which is why I read these threads) is to monitor my front doors. One camera can get both, and the back is protected and doesn't need monitoring. So mine would be a simple single camera application. But the camera has to be outside. Don donwiss at panix.com. http://www.toshiba.com/taisisd/netcam/index.htm Check these out.. Little pricey but... You can see a demo here at www.bit-man.com |
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The Windows Media Encoder will also use close to 100% of the CPU so it
will take up to 20 watts more power which costs money. 8% CPU utilisation on my PC..... Have it running all day. T. |
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"Frog" wrote in message ... On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 23:42:12 GMT, "Bit-Man" wrote: http://www.toshiba.com/taisisd/netcam/index.htm Check these out.. Little pricey but... You can see a demo here at www.bit-man.com Yep, I'd just love to own the Toshiba IK-WB11A. Most people sell it for $599. Sometimes Amazon sells it for less, but I'm tempted to spend the $599 at a local retailer, in case I need to return it. I've had trouble with Network Cameras (DLink), and will not tolerate speaking to an 18 year old nerd in tech support who has no idea why the product doesn't work. My dream is to get the Toshiba, put it on a UPS along with my broadband modem and router, and have images uploaded to my secure ftp site. Then if anybody breaks in, and even cuts the power, they'll still be photographed. The phone lines are secure enough that I don't have to worry about them getting snipped. Is this feasable? Sure it will work fine. Another thought is that the camera itself has a SD slot built in so even if it can not send the pics wireless or wired ( This can use either ) it then will start storing them local on the SD card. Great solution for a 24/7 approach. Even at night this has several options to increase the iris dwell time in order to let more light in. Even in my remote location it still shows a usable picture from 2am. Very cool. Overall great cam with a mile long list of options. Some problems can be expected though from not enough bandwith from a remote location. I have cable and will saturate the u/l this if I use too high update time and too large picture. Rich stuff but I managed convice myself its was a very cool toy. To use it a bizz enviroment as a security tool is very feasible. |
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"Don Wiss" wrote in message But are any of the IP cameras weatherproof? I have yet to see one that is. I bought a $30 indoor camera on a close-out sale and installed it high on the gable end of the garage over the big door. I intended to slip a jar of some kind over it to keep the rain and snow off, but the camera has a bunch of IR LEDs built in for illumination, and they reflected badly off the jar. Thinking this was a short term project, I simply taped a piece of plastic food wrap tightly around the camera. It has been through two years of heat and cold, rain and snow, and has never missed a beat. |
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Have you always used the same brand of food wrap ... what brand ? Maybe I
can try it as sort of a replaceable dust/spatter wrap around a 35mm film cam lens mounted similar here. (Screws into a flashlight case with cam guts inside). "Photon" wrote in message gy.com... "Don Wiss" wrote in message But are any of the IP cameras weatherproof? I have yet to see one that is. I bought a $30 indoor camera on a close-out sale and installed it high on the gable end of the garage over the big door. I intended to slip a jar of some kind over it to keep the rain and snow off, but the camera has a bunch of IR LEDs built in for illumination, and they reflected badly off the jar. Thinking this was a short term project, I simply taped a piece of plastic food wrap tightly around the camera. It has been through two years of heat and cold, rain and snow, and has never missed a beat. |
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