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Buffalo wrote: Paul wrote: Buffalo wrote: Buffalo wrote: Paul wrote: Buffalo wrote: Buffalo wrote: From my post "GeForce 7600GT AGP on Win2000ProSP4" I just realized that if I didn't have Halo installed, I wouldn't be able to keep my 7600gt AGP card able to play Q3 or view videos in full screen. Damn, their must be a better solution. I just reinsatlled my AGP ECS mb drivers. I used the latest ones from ECS (my mb is an ECS K7s5a rev3.1 with a HoneyX Bios. I don't have the HDD to install an XP system into to test out your ideas. I still use a dual 98se-2kSP4 system with an Athlon Mobile 2400+ (266MHz fsb) with 1 GB of ram. My Desktop resolutiob is at 1440x900 with a refresh of 75MHz with a Planar PX2710MW LCD monitor. Even if I set my Halo game vid setting the same, I still have the same problem. Amy other ideas on how I can get my video display to work properly without having to start Halo after the video changes shortly after bootup. Once changed, it seems to stay that way for the rest of the session, even after 12 hrs. Thanks again, Buffalo One addition, when I was using the previous vid card ATI Radeon 8500LE, I did not experience the problem I do now. (the new card gives me much better fps in my games). Also, when I try to uninstall the vid drivers and then reboot, the screen is very corrupted and tears whenever I move the mouse pointer. It is very difficult to make out what is on the screen. The same exact thing happens in Safe Mode, even without uninstalling the vid drivers first. Buffalo PS: It seems that my PC does not load the PCI Standard VGA (if any at all) default drivers. I cannot even find the .inf for that default driver. I would start by changing the refresh from 75Hz back to 60Hz. That's half your problem right there. LCDs do not behave the same as CRTs. On a CRT, we used to raise refresh, to reduce flicker. It's less of an issue with LCDs. Some LCDs actually throw away 1 in N frames when you raise the refresh too high. http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mon...ameters_3.html On the two LCDs I have here, I run them at 60Hz. Paul Just to give you more info, I can reset the card by launching Halo but not by launching Q2 or Q3Arena. It will also reset if I run Half-Life Episode 1 (have to go through Steam). I use the same resolution in those games and the same refresh rate. Once the card is 'reset' it usually will stay that way until I reboot. Buffalo Doom 3 doesn't do it either/ Buffalo Aren't some of the ID software titles based on OpenGL ? Perhaps the ones that reset your card, are DirectX titles ? And so the issue might be slightly DirectX related. Paul Thanks, good thought. Buffalo PS: Have a fun weekend and don't forget about the Super Moon tonight!!! (ie: closest to Eartha and full to bring you the brightest moon of 2012 : 14% larger and 30% brighter) Just to add, if I run Halo soon after the bootup, the problem still happens. Halo doesn't fix it until it goes astray. Buffalo |
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Buffalo wrote:
Buffalo wrote: Paul wrote: Buffalo wrote: Buffalo wrote: Paul wrote: Buffalo wrote: Buffalo wrote: From my post "GeForce 7600GT AGP on Win2000ProSP4" I just realized that if I didn't have Halo installed, I wouldn't be able to keep my 7600gt AGP card able to play Q3 or view videos in full screen. Damn, their must be a better solution. I just reinsatlled my AGP ECS mb drivers. I used the latest ones from ECS (my mb is an ECS K7s5a rev3.1 with a HoneyX Bios. I don't have the HDD to install an XP system into to test out your ideas. I still use a dual 98se-2kSP4 system with an Athlon Mobile 2400+ (266MHz fsb) with 1 GB of ram. My Desktop resolutiob is at 1440x900 with a refresh of 75MHz with a Planar PX2710MW LCD monitor. Even if I set my Halo game vid setting the same, I still have the same problem. Amy other ideas on how I can get my video display to work properly without having to start Halo after the video changes shortly after bootup. Once changed, it seems to stay that way for the rest of the session, even after 12 hrs. Thanks again, Buffalo One addition, when I was using the previous vid card ATI Radeon 8500LE, I did not experience the problem I do now. (the new card gives me much better fps in my games). Also, when I try to uninstall the vid drivers and then reboot, the screen is very corrupted and tears whenever I move the mouse pointer. It is very difficult to make out what is on the screen. The same exact thing happens in Safe Mode, even without uninstalling the vid drivers first. Buffalo PS: It seems that my PC does not load the PCI Standard VGA (if any at all) default drivers. I cannot even find the .inf for that default driver. I would start by changing the refresh from 75Hz back to 60Hz. That's half your problem right there. LCDs do not behave the same as CRTs. On a CRT, we used to raise refresh, to reduce flicker. It's less of an issue with LCDs. Some LCDs actually throw away 1 in N frames when you raise the refresh too high. http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mon...ameters_3.html On the two LCDs I have here, I run them at 60Hz. Paul Just to give you more info, I can reset the card by launching Halo but not by launching Q2 or Q3Arena. It will also reset if I run Half-Life Episode 1 (have to go through Steam). I use the same resolution in those games and the same refresh rate. Once the card is 'reset' it usually will stay that way until I reboot. Buffalo Doom 3 doesn't do it either/ Buffalo Aren't some of the ID software titles based on OpenGL ? Perhaps the ones that reset your card, are DirectX titles ? And so the issue might be slightly DirectX related. Paul Thanks, good thought. Buffalo PS: Have a fun weekend and don't forget about the Super Moon tonight!!! (ie: closest to Eartha and full to bring you the brightest moon of 2012 : 14% larger and 30% brighter) Just to add, if I run Halo soon after the bootup, the problem still happens. Halo doesn't fix it until it goes astray. Buffalo At one time, "fix it when it goes astray" was called "VPU recovery". When it first came out, it came with a tick box, so you could turn it on or off. And if you turned it on, it made the video card more unstable. Eventually, I think the software used became more hidden. I expect a VPU recovery function still exists, but it may not leave a log anywhere if it is triggered. And I don't know the name of that feature, if available on an Nvidia card. They used it on ATI cards. I've never had a problem like that, so haven't investigate further than to note the name of the feature. It's probably something like a timer, and if the OS driver for the video card can't talk to the card, the software timer triggers a video card recovery. That would involve possibly resetting the video card, the screen goes black for a second, and then it comes back. I don't know the mechanics, of how they could re-establish communications with the card, if the card is frozen. http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/sh....php?p=2359563 Paul |
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Paul wrote: Buffalo wrote: Buffalo wrote: Paul wrote: Buffalo wrote: Buffalo wrote: Paul wrote: Buffalo wrote: Buffalo wrote: From my post "GeForce 7600GT AGP on Win2000ProSP4" I just realized that if I didn't have Halo installed, I wouldn't be able to keep my 7600gt AGP card able to play Q3 or view videos in full screen. Damn, their must be a better solution. I just reinsatlled my AGP ECS mb drivers. I used the latest ones from ECS (my mb is an ECS K7s5a rev3.1 with a HoneyX Bios. I don't have the HDD to install an XP system into to test out your ideas. I still use a dual 98se-2kSP4 system with an Athlon Mobile 2400+ (266MHz fsb) with 1 GB of ram. My Desktop resolutiob is at 1440x900 with a refresh of 75MHz with a Planar PX2710MW LCD monitor. Even if I set my Halo game vid setting the same, I still have the same problem. Amy other ideas on how I can get my video display to work properly without having to start Halo after the video changes shortly after bootup. Once changed, it seems to stay that way for the rest of the session, even after 12 hrs. Thanks again, Buffalo One addition, when I was using the previous vid card ATI Radeon 8500LE, I did not experience the problem I do now. (the new card gives me much better fps in my games). Also, when I try to uninstall the vid drivers and then reboot, the screen is very corrupted and tears whenever I move the mouse pointer. It is very difficult to make out what is on the screen. The same exact thing happens in Safe Mode, even without uninstalling the vid drivers first. Buffalo PS: It seems that my PC does not load the PCI Standard VGA (if any at all) default drivers. I cannot even find the .inf for that default driver. I would start by changing the refresh from 75Hz back to 60Hz. That's half your problem right there. LCDs do not behave the same as CRTs. On a CRT, we used to raise refresh, to reduce flicker. It's less of an issue with LCDs. Some LCDs actually throw away 1 in N frames when you raise the refresh too high. http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mon...ameters_3.html On the two LCDs I have here, I run them at 60Hz. Paul Just to give you more info, I can reset the card by launching Halo but not by launching Q2 or Q3Arena. It will also reset if I run Half-Life Episode 1 (have to go through Steam). I use the same resolution in those games and the same refresh rate. Once the card is 'reset' it usually will stay that way until I reboot. Buffalo Doom 3 doesn't do it either/ Buffalo Aren't some of the ID software titles based on OpenGL ? Perhaps the ones that reset your card, are DirectX titles ? And so the issue might be slightly DirectX related. Paul Thanks, good thought. Buffalo PS: Have a fun weekend and don't forget about the Super Moon tonight!!! (ie: closest to Eartha and full to bring you the brightest moon of 2012 : 14% larger and 30% brighter) Just to add, if I run Halo soon after the bootup, the problem still happens. Halo doesn't fix it until it goes astray. Buffalo At one time, "fix it when it goes astray" was called "VPU recovery". When it first came out, it came with a tick box, so you could turn it on or off. And if you turned it on, it made the video card more unstable. Eventually, I think the software used became more hidden. I expect a VPU recovery function still exists, but it may not leave a log anywhere if it is triggered. And I don't know the name of that feature, if available on an Nvidia card. They used it on ATI cards. I've never had a problem like that, so haven't investigate further than to note the name of the feature. It's probably something like a timer, and if the OS driver for the video card can't talk to the card, the software timer triggers a video card recovery. That would involve possibly resetting the video card, the screen goes black for a second, and then it comes back. I don't know the mechanics, of how they could re-establish communications with the card, if the card is frozen. http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/sh....php?p=2359563 Paul Wow, that was quick. When it changes to bad, it will usually black out momentarily or sometimes for several seconds and a couple of times ('no signal' message on LCD monitor) for over a minute. Once it resets again with Halo, I can't recall if it ever went bad again, even though the PC could be running for 12 or more hours straight. I wonder is there could be another program that I could use to cause the 'correction' since I would like to uninstall Halo. Well, thanks again, Buffalo PS: I did read through the page at the link you posted. PPS: I also have two of the 7600 cards (only one installed at a time) and they both act the same, so I wouldn't think it was a card problem. |
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Paul
On 6/25/2012 4:18 PM, Paul wrote:
Buffalo wrote: Buffalo wrote: Paul wrote: Buffalo wrote: Buffalo wrote: Paul wrote: Buffalo wrote: Buffalo wrote: [snip] At one time, "fix it when it goes astray" was called "VPU recovery". When it first came out, it came with a tick box, so you could turn it on or off. And if you turned it on, it made the video card more unstable. Eventually, I think the software used became more hidden. I expect a VPU recovery function still exists, but it may not leave a log anywhere if it is triggered. And I don't know the name of that feature, if available on an Nvidia card. They used it on ATI cards. Paul I've seen something similar to VPU recovery happen automatically on my Nvidia GTS 450 and GTX 560 cards. Robert Miles |
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