Does anybody know what jumper setting "cable select" does for a hard drive?

Does anybody know what jumper setting "cable select" does for a hard
drive? When to use it?

yep 8 of 10 times it causes problems,

cable select uses the position of the hard drive on the ribbon to identify
its master/ slave settings.

"Body" wrote in message
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Does anybody know what jumper setting "cable select" does for a hard
drive? When to use it?

It's supposed to make the devices "select" whether they're master or
slave by the connection they use on the "cable". Theoretically, if
you have two hard drives or CD/DVD ROM drives on your cable, and both
are set to cable select, then the one on the end of the cable should
automatically become the master and the one plugged into the middle
should become the slave. I've seen it work once. Out of many, many
configurations and reconfigurations. I'd say you'd be best off just
ignoring it and setting one device to master & the other to slave &
moving on.

On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 11:35:12 -0500, Body wrote:

Does anybody know what jumper setting "cable select" does for a hard
drive? When to use it?

Jim Johnson wrote:

Does anybody know what jumper setting "cable select" does for a hard
drive? When to use it?

don't know if this helps, but I am sure of this rule

the primary harddrive goes to the ide on the furthest edge of the
mother board

the inside ide is for extra drives.

even if you put an hard drive on the outter rim of the mobo
you still need to set the pin jumpers on a butt end of the hard drive
this is unavoidable. see hd mfg for correct jumper setting
make the drive slave or master

some assholes brought up the idea that it was nasty to use the word
term when referring to a hd as either slave or master

Body wrote:
Does anybody know what jumper setting "cable select" does for a hard
drive? When to use it?

Yes, it forces you to have to put the master on the end (black) and the
slave in the middle (gray) of an IDE conductor which has an open on wire
28. It's suppose to make it easier but I would never use it and choose
to manually jumper for three reasons. One, I like the flexibility of
reversing the master/slave assignment without having to move the drives
or twist the cable into a pretzel. Two, some make of drives (Western
Digital require manual jumpering anyway. Three, some 40 wire cables
(real old pcs) may not have the 28 wire cut.
When to use it. For me, never.

Body wrote:
Does anybody know what jumper setting "cable select" does for a hard
drive? When to use it?

http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/if/ide/confCS-c.html

In article , Jim Johnson
says...
It's supposed to make the devices "select" whether they're master or
slave by the connection they use on the "cable". Theoretically, if
you have two hard drives or CD/DVD ROM drives on your cable, and both
are set to cable select, then the one on the end of the cable should
automatically become the master and the one plugged into the middle
should become the slave. I've seen it work once.

That's because you also need a CS enabled IDE cable which alot aren't.


--
Conor

Windows & Outlook/OE in particular, shipped with settings making them
as open to entry as a starlet in a porno. Steve B

I believe that one of the original reasons for craeting the 'cable-select'
method was to simplify the assembly of mass produced systems ala Dell,
Gateway, etc....

With cable-select, they could just install hard drives as they came down the
line without the need to jumper each drive for 'master' or 'slave' as
needed. The HD's (and optical drives for that matter) would come from the
manufacturer set to 'cable'select' and all the asembler had to do is install
the drive and attach it to the appropriate place on the cable.


"Conor" wrote in message
t...
In article , Jim Johnson
says...
It's supposed to make the devices "select" whether they're master or
slave by the connection they use on the "cable". Theoretically, if
you have two hard drives or CD/DVD ROM drives on your cable, and both
are set to cable select, then the one on the end of the cable should
automatically become the master and the one plugged into the middle
should become the slave. I've seen it work once.

That's because you also need a CS enabled IDE cable which alot aren't.


--
Conor

Windows & Outlook/OE in particular, shipped with settings making them
as open to entry as a starlet in a porno. Steve B

Dell still uses CS on their machines.

On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 16:38:04 -0500, "hdrdtd"
wrote:

I believe that one of the original reasons for craeting the 'cable-select'
method was to simplify the assembly of mass produced systems ala Dell,
Gateway, etc....

With cable-select, they could just install hard drives as they came down the
line without the need to jumper each drive for 'master' or 'slave' as
needed. The HD's (and optical drives for that matter) would come from the
manufacturer set to 'cable'select' and all the asembler had to do is install
the drive and attach it to the appropriate place on the cable.


"Conor" wrote in message
et...
In article , Jim Johnson
says...
It's supposed to make the devices "select" whether they're master or
slave by the connection they use on the "cable". Theoretically, if
you have two hard drives or CD/DVD ROM drives on your cable, and both
are set to cable select, then the one on the end of the cable should
automatically become the master and the one plugged into the middle
should become the slave. I've seen it work once.

That's because you also need a CS enabled IDE cable which alot aren't.


--
Conor

Windows & Outlook/OE in particular, shipped with settings making them
as open to entry as a starlet in a porno. Steve B

Conor wrote:
In article , Jim Johnson
says...

It's supposed to make the devices "select" whether they're master or
slave by the connection they use on the "cable". Theoretically, if
you have two hard drives or CD/DVD ROM drives on your cable, and both
are set to cable select, then the one on the end of the cable should
automatically become the master and the one plugged into the middle
should become the slave. I've seen it work once.


That's because you also need a CS enabled IDE cable which alot aren't.


Just clip wire 28 between the master and slave connector. This can be
done with a small hole punch.