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Old December 1st 07, 12:31 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware
Debris
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Default External Hard Drives -- Question

Hello,

I'm planning to invest in an external hard drive (desktop, not portable) --
general specifications ~ 250 GB, 7200 rpm, USB 2.0 connection.

My initial idea was to use the drive as sort of an "archive" for those files
I don't access a lot, such as photo / video / music files. I say "archive"
as opposed to backup as I have the important stuff backed up securely
elsewhere.

My question is, are these external drives robust enough / fast enough /
whatever to use as "everyday" storage? For example, can I rip a CD directly
to one, or do I need to rip the CD to the internal drive first, then move
the files? Can I edit video directly from one?

BTW, I'm avoiding mentioning brand names, but I guess my first choice would
be a Seagate drive.

Thanks,

D


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Old December 1st 07, 12:35 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware
philo
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Default External Hard Drives -- Question


"Debris" wrote in message
...
Hello,

I'm planning to invest in an external hard drive (desktop, not

portable) --
general specifications ~ 250 GB, 7200 rpm, USB 2.0 connection.

My initial idea was to use the drive as sort of an "archive" for those

files
I don't access a lot, such as photo / video / music files. I say

"archive"
as opposed to backup as I have the important stuff backed up securely
elsewhere.

My question is, are these external drives robust enough / fast enough /
whatever to use as "everyday" storage? For example, can I rip a CD

directly
to one, or do I need to rip the CD to the internal drive first, then move
the files? Can I edit video directly from one?

BTW, I'm avoiding mentioning brand names, but I guess my first choice

would
be a Seagate drive.




Yes, USB 2 is fast enough to burn a cd directly from the drive...
you should have no problems


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Old December 1st 07, 12:37 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware
Noozer
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Default External Hard Drives -- Question


"Debris" wrote in message
...
Hello,

I'm planning to invest in an external hard drive (desktop, not
portable) -- general specifications ~ 250 GB, 7200 rpm, USB 2.0
connection.

My initial idea was to use the drive as sort of an "archive" for those
files I don't access a lot, such as photo / video / music files. I say
"archive" as opposed to backup as I have the important stuff backed up
securely elsewhere.

My question is, are these external drives robust enough / fast enough /
whatever to use as "everyday" storage? For example, can I rip a CD
directly to one, or do I need to rip the CD to the internal drive first,
then move the files? Can I edit video directly from one?

BTW, I'm avoiding mentioning brand names, but I guess my first choice
would be a Seagate drive.


I've got a 500gig Seagate FreeAgent drive. It's silent, shuts down
automatically with the PC and looks kinda cool. I use it to archive any
files that I may need to access, but rarely do. It's been stable for almost
a year. I'd trust it as much as any other drive - internal or external. It
should be fast enough to use for ripping CD's.


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Old December 1st 07, 04:37 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware
DevilsPGD[_2_]
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Default External Hard Drives -- Question

In message p124j.8787$UQ1.722@pd7urf1no "Noozer"
wrote:

I've got a 500gig Seagate FreeAgent drive. It's silent, shuts down
automatically with the PC and looks kinda cool. I use it to archive any
files that I may need to access, but rarely do. It's been stable for almost
a year. I'd trust it as much as any other drive - internal or external. It
should be fast enough to use for ripping CD's.


In general I'd agree -- However, is it just me or is the power button
more then a little temperamental?

(Personally, I just leave it on and let it do it's own thing -- But it
seems like an odd thing to be so moody)
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Old December 1st 07, 06:56 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware
Noozer
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Default External Hard Drives -- Question


"DevilsPGD" wrote in message
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In message p124j.8787$UQ1.722@pd7urf1no "Noozer"
wrote:

I've got a 500gig Seagate FreeAgent drive. It's silent, shuts down
automatically with the PC and looks kinda cool. I use it to archive any
files that I may need to access, but rarely do. It's been stable for
almost
a year. I'd trust it as much as any other drive - internal or external.
It
should be fast enough to use for ripping CD's.


In general I'd agree -- However, is it just me or is the power button
more then a little temperamental?


Mine doesn't have a power button. It comes on as soon as the USB powers up.
Doesn't run from USB power though.


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Old December 1st 07, 07:05 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware
kony
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Default External Hard Drives -- Question

On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 18:31:07 -0600, "Debris"
wrote:

Hello,

I'm planning to invest in an external hard drive (desktop, not portable) --
general specifications ~ 250 GB, 7200 rpm, USB 2.0 connection.

My initial idea was to use the drive as sort of an "archive" for those files
I don't access a lot, such as photo / video / music files. I say "archive"
as opposed to backup as I have the important stuff backed up securely
elsewhere.

My question is, are these external drives robust enough / fast enough /
whatever to use as "everyday" storage?


Robust, not necessarily unless you have a mild climate or it
has a fan inside. Some also have rather poor power supplies
but sticking with the name brands is a good idea.

Speed depends on several factors, notibly the USB bottleneck
and especially that if you have a lot of very small files
opposed to larger ones.

For example, can I rip a CD directly
to one, or do I need to rip the CD to the internal drive first, then move
the files?


??
Ripping a CD isn't a realtime activity, no matter how slow
the external was you could still do it ok, it would take
more time to copy to thei internal drive first then copy off
to the external. However, in general you can write to an
external USB2 drive faster than the CD can be ripped, so it
shouldn't ever be a factor.


Can I edit video directly from one?


You could, but I don't think you'd want to (depending on
exactly how/what/etc you're editing. Highest throughput is
handy to have snappy performance while editing. If you put
the source files on an internal drive and your final
compressed destination were to be written to the external,
that would tend to be fine since compression speed is slower
than the external write performance (usually). The other
factor for this is if the job takes a long time you're left
running the external all the while. If you'll be using this
external powered a lot, it might be as well to just buy
another internal drive instead.




BTW, I'm avoiding mentioning brand names, but I guess my first choice would
be a Seagate drive.


You can read some customer reviews at places like
http://www.newegg.com . In particular the problem reports
or "cons" there are useful, while the "pros" are often
obvious or expected unless otherwise stated.
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Old December 2nd 07, 06:19 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware
DevilsPGD[_2_]
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Default External Hard Drives -- Question

In message dA74j.81021$cD.76373@pd7urf2no "Noozer"
wrote:

Mine doesn't have a power button. It comes on as soon as the USB powers up.
Doesn't run from USB power though.


Which model?
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Old December 2nd 07, 06:30 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware
Noozer
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Default External Hard Drives -- Question


"DevilsPGD" wrote in message
...
In message dA74j.81021$cD.76373@pd7urf2no "Noozer"
wrote:

Mine doesn't have a power button. It comes on as soon as the USB powers
up.
Doesn't run from USB power though.


Which model?


500gig FreeAgent Desktop


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Old December 2nd 07, 09:41 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware
[email protected]
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Default External Hard Drives -- Question

kony wrote:
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 18:31:07 -0600, "Debris"
wrote:


Hello,

I'm planning to invest in an external hard drive (desktop, not portable) --
general specifications ~ 250 GB, 7200 rpm, USB 2.0 connection.

My initial idea was to use the drive as sort of an "archive" for those files
I don't access a lot, such as photo / video / music files. I say "archive"
as opposed to backup as I have the important stuff backed up securely
elsewhere.

My question is, are these external drives robust enough / fast enough /
whatever to use as "everyday" storage?


Robust, not necessarily unless you have a mild climate or it
has a fan inside. Some also have rather poor power supplies
but sticking with the name brands is a good idea.

Speed depends on several factors, notibly the USB bottleneck
and especially that if you have a lot of very small files
opposed to larger ones.

For example, can I rip a CD directly
to one, or do I need to rip the CD to the internal drive first, then move
the files?


??
Ripping a CD isn't a realtime activity, no matter how slow
the external was you could still do it ok, it would take
more time to copy to thei internal drive first then copy off
to the external. However, in general you can write to an
external USB2 drive faster than the CD can be ripped, so it
shouldn't ever be a factor.


Can I edit video directly from one?


You could, but I don't think you'd want to (depending on
exactly how/what/etc you're editing. Highest throughput is
handy to have snappy performance while editing. If you put
the source files on an internal drive and your final
compressed destination were to be written to the external,
that would tend to be fine since compression speed is slower
than the external write performance (usually). The other
factor for this is if the job takes a long time you're left
running the external all the while. If you'll be using this
external powered a lot, it might be as well to just buy
another internal drive instead.




BTW, I'm avoiding mentioning brand names, but I guess my first choice would
be a Seagate drive.


You can read some customer reviews at places like
http://www.newegg.com . In particular the problem reports
or "cons" there are useful, while the "pros" are often
obvious or expected unless otherwise stated.


Lifetime ratings vary a lot.


NT
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Old December 2nd 07, 10:32 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware
DevilsPGD[_2_]
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Default External Hard Drives -- Question

In message iis4j.84252$cD.7198@pd7urf2no "Noozer"
wrote:


"DevilsPGD" wrote in message
.. .
In message dA74j.81021$cD.76373@pd7urf2no "Noozer"
wrote:

Mine doesn't have a power button. It comes on as soon as the USB powers
up.
Doesn't run from USB power though.


Which model?


500gig FreeAgent Desktop


Look on the base, near the front-right corner, see the embossed power
logo? Press it and hold it for a few seconds while the drive is turned
on (but not busy, obviously)
 




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