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Recommendations for Video Card Upgrade
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I have decided it is time to upgrade my older AGP video card and I am looking for advice. I currently have a P-III system witn an Intel board and I think the AGP slot is 1x or possibly 2x. I am also planning to get a flat screen monitor, but I'm thinking about eventually getting a second flat screen as I want to slowly upgrade my machine (new mother board / cpu, etc.) My question is -- should I get a single high end video card with dual monitor outs, or two seperate video cards? And if I opt for 2 video cards, should I get 1 AGP card (its seems no mother boards have more than 1 AGP slot) and 1 PCI card, or 2 PCI cards? Should I get 2 of the same cards? I am begining to get into video editting -- currently using Adobe Premiere Elements -- but I'd like to eventually move up to Adobe Premiere Pro and I'm also interesting in learning about 3D modeling and so I'd like to get a vidoe card or cards that will be good for 3D modeling as well. Thanks, Rich |
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"Richard Morey" wrote in message ... Hi -- I have decided it is time to upgrade my older AGP video card and I am looking for advice. I currently have a P-III system witn an Intel board and I think the AGP slot is 1x or possibly 2x. If the slot is 1x, then you may run into a voltage problem with newcards that require 4x and up. I'm not sure on this one though. I am also planning to get a flat screen monitor, but I'm thinking about eventually getting a second flat screen as I want to slowly upgrade my machine (new mother board / cpu, etc.) Sounds good when you get a motherboard that will run the card that comes with the dual monitor out. My question is -- should I get a single high end video card with dual monitor outs, or two seperate video cards? And if I opt for 2 video cards, should I get 1 AGP card (its seems no mother boards have more than 1 AGP slot) and 1 PCI card, or 2 PCI cards? Should I get 2 of the same cards? PCI will give you extremely poor performance. There are cards out there for PCI connections, but they are not that great and I do not think they have the required DVI outputs. A converter may be required. But the conversion from analouge to digital can reduce clarity on the flat pannel monitor. I am assuming by you saying "flat screen" you mean flat pannel. I am begining to get into video editting -- currently using Adobe Premiere Elements -- but I'd like to eventually move up to Adobe Premiere Pro and I'm also interesting in learning about 3D modeling and so I'd like to get a vidoe card or cards that will be good for 3D modeling as well. Nvidia Quadro and ATI Fire GL are serious cards for this type work. I have no experence in this field. Maybe some one here can go further into detail. The cards are VERY expencive. Thanks, Rich |
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Hi --
Thank you for your feedback.. There seems to be many flavors of the two video cards you mentioned (Nvidia Quadro and ATI Fire GL).. Do you know the specific model / versions of these cards you had in mind? Also, I meant to ask about PCI Express cards versus AGP, not plain PCI.. Sorry.. Thanks again, Rich "Clob" wrote in message news:EYtvd.4369$lZ6.3436@trnddc02... "Richard Morey" wrote in message ... Hi -- I have decided it is time to upgrade my older AGP video card and I am looking for advice. I currently have a P-III system witn an Intel board and I think the AGP slot is 1x or possibly 2x. If the slot is 1x, then you may run into a voltage problem with newcards that require 4x and up. I'm not sure on this one though. I am also planning to get a flat screen monitor, but I'm thinking about eventually getting a second flat screen as I want to slowly upgrade my machine (new mother board / cpu, etc.) Sounds good when you get a motherboard that will run the card that comes with the dual monitor out. My question is -- should I get a single high end video card with dual monitor outs, or two seperate video cards? And if I opt for 2 video cards, should I get 1 AGP card (its seems no mother boards have more than 1 AGP slot) and 1 PCI card, or 2 PCI cards? Should I get 2 of the same cards? PCI will give you extremely poor performance. There are cards out there for PCI connections, but they are not that great and I do not think they have the required DVI outputs. A converter may be required. But the conversion from analouge to digital can reduce clarity on the flat pannel monitor. I am assuming by you saying "flat screen" you mean flat pannel. I am begining to get into video editting -- currently using Adobe Premiere Elements -- but I'd like to eventually move up to Adobe Premiere Pro and I'm also interesting in learning about 3D modeling and so I'd like to get a vidoe card or cards that will be good for 3D modeling as well. Nvidia Quadro and ATI Fire GL are serious cards for this type work. I have no experence in this field. Maybe some one here can go further into detail. The cards are VERY expencive. Thanks, Rich |
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Ahh I see. That is a bit different. The two cards have their highs and lows
in areas. Look for some benchmarks on carious platforms. "Richard Morey" wrote in message ... Hi -- Thank you for your feedback.. There seems to be many flavors of the two video cards you mentioned (Nvidia Quadro and ATI Fire GL).. Do you know the specific model / versions of these cards you had in mind? Also, I meant to ask about PCI Express cards versus AGP, not plain PCI.. Sorry.. Thanks again, Rich "Clob" wrote in message news:EYtvd.4369$lZ6.3436@trnddc02... "Richard Morey" wrote in message ... Hi -- I have decided it is time to upgrade my older AGP video card and I am looking for advice. I currently have a P-III system witn an Intel board and I think the AGP slot is 1x or possibly 2x. If the slot is 1x, then you may run into a voltage problem with newcards that require 4x and up. I'm not sure on this one though. I am also planning to get a flat screen monitor, but I'm thinking about eventually getting a second flat screen as I want to slowly upgrade my machine (new mother board / cpu, etc.) Sounds good when you get a motherboard that will run the card that comes with the dual monitor out. My question is -- should I get a single high end video card with dual monitor outs, or two seperate video cards? And if I opt for 2 video cards, should I get 1 AGP card (its seems no mother boards have more than 1 AGP slot) and 1 PCI card, or 2 PCI cards? Should I get 2 of the same cards? PCI will give you extremely poor performance. There are cards out there for PCI connections, but they are not that great and I do not think they have the required DVI outputs. A converter may be required. But the conversion from analouge to digital can reduce clarity on the flat pannel monitor. I am assuming by you saying "flat screen" you mean flat pannel. I am begining to get into video editting -- currently using Adobe Premiere Elements -- but I'd like to eventually move up to Adobe Premiere Pro and I'm also interesting in learning about 3D modeling and so I'd like to get a vidoe card or cards that will be good for 3D modeling as well. Nvidia Quadro and ATI Fire GL are serious cards for this type work. I have no experence in this field. Maybe some one here can go further into detail. The cards are VERY expencive. Thanks, Rich |
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As for PCI-E. Performance is higher than any AGP. PCI-E is the new
standard. "Clob" wrote in message news:6F1wd.4436$N%6.2957@trnddc05... Ahh I see. That is a bit different. The two cards have their highs and lows in areas. Look for some benchmarks on carious platforms. "Richard Morey" wrote in message ... Hi -- Thank you for your feedback.. There seems to be many flavors of the two video cards you mentioned (Nvidia Quadro and ATI Fire GL).. Do you know the specific model / versions of these cards you had in mind? Also, I meant to ask about PCI Express cards versus AGP, not plain PCI.. Sorry.. Thanks again, Rich "Clob" wrote in message news:EYtvd.4369$lZ6.3436@trnddc02... "Richard Morey" wrote in message ... Hi -- I have decided it is time to upgrade my older AGP video card and I am looking for advice. I currently have a P-III system witn an Intel board and I think the AGP slot is 1x or possibly 2x. If the slot is 1x, then you may run into a voltage problem with newcards that require 4x and up. I'm not sure on this one though. I am also planning to get a flat screen monitor, but I'm thinking about eventually getting a second flat screen as I want to slowly upgrade my machine (new mother board / cpu, etc.) Sounds good when you get a motherboard that will run the card that comes with the dual monitor out. My question is -- should I get a single high end video card with dual monitor outs, or two seperate video cards? And if I opt for 2 video cards, should I get 1 AGP card (its seems no mother boards have more than 1 AGP slot) and 1 PCI card, or 2 PCI cards? Should I get 2 of the same cards? PCI will give you extremely poor performance. There are cards out there for PCI connections, but they are not that great and I do not think they have the required DVI outputs. A converter may be required. But the conversion from analouge to digital can reduce clarity on the flat pannel monitor. I am assuming by you saying "flat screen" you mean flat pannel. I am begining to get into video editting -- currently using Adobe Premiere Elements -- but I'd like to eventually move up to Adobe Premiere Pro and I'm also interesting in learning about 3D modeling and so I'd like to get a vidoe card or cards that will be good for 3D modeling as well. Nvidia Quadro and ATI Fire GL are serious cards for this type work. I have no experence in this field. Maybe some one here can go further into detail. The cards are VERY expencive. Thanks, Rich |
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On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 21:11:04 GMT, "Clob"
wrote: As for PCI-E. Performance is higher than any AGP. PCI-E is the new standard. Comparing *same* GPU based card on PCI Express vs AGP, there is no significant performance benefit to PCI Express. What PCI Express WILL do is allow for faster video cards in the future, a couple years or so from now the "good" gamers cards worth upgrading to over current cards will only be in PCI Express format, if the product roadmaps are to be believed. Then again it's the age-old quesiton, at that (2-year point) will one buy a high-end video card for an aging system or spend the $ on other system upgrades (like the motherboard & CPU) first so it didn't matter. |
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Hi --
Thanks for all the feedback.. I guess I sort of know the direction to head in -- PCI-E over AGP, but I'm sure there is a cost increase for a motherboard with PCI-e vs AGP and likewise for AGP vs PCI-e video card. Now, if I plan to use two monitors, will I get a performance benefit from two seperate cards (if I got PCI-e) versus 1 card with two outputss ? Thanks Rich Getting a single card with dual outputs is acceptable "kony" wrote in message news On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 21:11:04 GMT, "Clob" wrote: As for PCI-E. Performance is higher than any AGP. PCI-E is the new standard. Comparing *same* GPU based card on PCI Express vs AGP, there is no significant performance benefit to PCI Express. What PCI Express WILL do is allow for faster video cards in the future, a couple years or so from now the "good" gamers cards worth upgrading to over current cards will only be in PCI Express format, if the product roadmaps are to be believed. Then again it's the age-old quesiton, at that (2-year point) will one buy a high-end video card for an aging system or spend the $ on other system upgrades (like the motherboard & CPU) first so it didn't matter. |
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On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 18:58:02 -0500, "Richard Morey"
wrote: Hi -- Thanks for all the feedback.. I guess I sort of know the direction to head in -- PCI-E over AGP, but I'm sure there is a cost increase for a motherboard with PCI-e vs AGP and likewise for AGP vs PCI-e video card. Now, if I plan to use two monitors, will I get a performance benefit from two seperate cards (if I got PCI-e) versus 1 card with two outputss ? Performance benefit for what use? Generally no, you're as well off with a single dual output card. |
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Now, if I plan to use two monitors, will I get a performance benefit from
two seperate cards (if I got PCI-e) versus 1 card with two outputss ? Performance benefit for what use? Generally no, you're as well off with a single dual output card. For rendering while doing video editing or 3d modeling? Or does the speed of this relate to CPU speed only? Rich |
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On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:01:02 -0500, "Richard Morey"
wrote: Now, if I plan to use two monitors, will I get a performance benefit from two seperate cards (if I got PCI-e) versus 1 card with two outputss ? Performance benefit for what use? Generally no, you're as well off with a single dual output card. For rendering while doing video editing or 3d modeling? Or does the speed of this relate to CPU speed only? Rich Rendering is not video-card bound, nor is 3D modeling in general. If you were trying to display 100 FPS on one while playing a 3D game on the other you might have a problem but otherwise you're better off avoiding use of a 2nd card on the PCI bus. PCI Express will make that less significant but still there'd be no need for a 2nd card. |
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