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help??
hi all, dunno if you guys can help with this or not, but here goes anyway.
start up my comp, it runs really slowly, there are no apps running and if i "ctrl alt del" it shows that explorer .exe is running at 92%. its quite a new install, (about a week) and ive only installed my usual software, winxp service pack 1 zone alarm norton antivirus athlon 2200 512 ddr epox mobo 100gb hd 60gb hd plenty of space left any ideas steve |
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1. win xp is buggy and slows you down. Might want to uninstall
2. Run Spybot and Adaware to check for spyware. These are free and you can get them from www.cnet.com 3. Go to start then run and type MSCONFIG. Go to tab to far right ....then startup. This shows you what is running in background. Turn off everything (uncheck) and reboot. 4. Are you using antivirus? "steve" wrote in message ... hi all, dunno if you guys can help with this or not, but here goes anyway. start up my comp, it runs really slowly, there are no apps running and if i "ctrl alt del" it shows that explorer .exe is running at 92%. its quite a new install, (about a week) and ive only installed my usual software, winxp service pack 1 zone alarm norton antivirus athlon 2200 512 ddr epox mobo 100gb hd 60gb hd plenty of space left any ideas steve |
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yea, i just installed the updates norton and then ran it but it turned up
nothing, i think i`ll try sisoft sandra to see if theres a hardware fault. failing that i`ll go to my laast restore point. i ran adaware and xp antispy but found nothing that would slow the machine down that much. i`ll let you know what happens. cheers for the reply steve |
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ok i ran sisoft sandra and it turns out that my mainboard is too hot. i
guess that could be part of the reason...... i`ll keep checking. steve "steve" wrote in message ... yea, i just installed the updates norton and then ran it but it turned up nothing, i think i`ll try sisoft sandra to see if theres a hardware fault. failing that i`ll go to my laast restore point. i ran adaware and xp antispy but found nothing that would slow the machine down that much. i`ll let you know what happens. cheers for the reply steve |
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SiSoftware Sandra
System Summary Analysing... Finished Successfully : Yes Mainboard Information Analysing... CPU Temperature : 91.0°C / 195.8°F td Notice 224 : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate. Tip 2511 : Some memory slots are free so the memory can be easily upgraded. Warning 2518 : Mainboard temperature is too high. Finished Successfully : Yes CPU & BIOS Information Analysing... CPU Temperature : 92.5°C / 198.5°F td Notice 224 : Processor 1 : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate. Warning 238 : Processor 1 : Cooler system thermal resistance too high. Check cooler/transfer material! Warning 239 : Processor 1 : Cooler system thermal resistance higher than recommended. Check it! Warning 215 : Processor 1 : CPU temperature is too high! Check fan(s)! Notice 224 : System BIOS : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate. Tip 207 : System BIOS : A SMBIOS/DMI 2.3 or later compliant BIOS is recommended. Check for a BIOS update. Tip 212 : System BIOS : BIOS can be shadowed so check whether it is. Tip 211 : System BIOS : BIOS is flash-able and socketed so it can be upgraded when needed. Finished Successfully : Yes APM & ACPI Information Analysing... Notice 224 : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate. Finished Successfully : Yes PCI, AGP, CardBus Bus(es) Information Analysing... Tip 1202 : Epox Computer Co Ltd VT8233A AC'97 Enhanced Audio Controller : Device does not support bus mastering. Finished Successfully : Yes Video System Information Analysing... Tip 322 : Primary Display Driver (display) : Turn off screen savers. Use the monitor power saving mode. Tip 323 : Primary Display Driver (display) : Remove the desktop wallpaper to save memory and improve performance. Tip 322 : NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 420 (\\.\DISPLAY1) @ \\.\DISPLAY1 : Turn off screen savers. Use the monitor power saving mode. Tip 323 : NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 420 (\\.\DISPLAY1) @ \\.\DISPLAY1 : Remove the desktop wallpaper to save memory and improve performance. Tip 316 : Default Monitor : Use a Energy Star (DPMS) power saving monitor. Warning 332 : Default Monitor : Use a Plug & Play/DDC compatible monitor and video adapter. Finished Successfully : Yes Windows Memory Information Analysing... Finished Successfully : Yes Drives Information Analysing... Tip 1821 : 1.44MB 3.5" (A : Label (name) drive. Tip 1821 : Hard Disk (C : Label (name) drive. Warning 1800 : elin (D : Increase free disk space. Some programs may run out of disk space. Warning 1825 : elin (D : Consider compressing the drive. Compress or delete unneeded files to increase free space. Warning 1800 : steve (E : Increase free disk space. Some programs may run out of disk space. Warning 1825 : steve (E : Consider compressing the drive. Compress or delete unneeded files to increase free space. Warning : CD-ROM/DVD (F : Cannot obtain drive information; check that a disk is in the drive and it is correctly formatted. Finished Successfully : Yes Ports Information Analysing... Finished Successfully : Yes Keyboard Information Analysing... Finished Successfully : Yes Mouse Information Analysing... Finished Successfully : Yes Sound Card Information Analysing... Finished Successfully : Yes Printer and Fax Information Analysing... Error : No printers detected. : Could not initialise the Print object! Finished Successfully : Yes MCI Devices Information Analysing... Finished Successfully : Yes Windows Information Analysing... Tip 1300 : Enter your company name or "Home" instead of "Unknown". Finished Successfully : Yes WinSock Information Analysing... Finished Successfully : Yes Processes Information Analysing... Tip 1601 : MS_WebcheckMonitor : Program consumes a large amount of memory. Tip 1601 : Kazaa Lite - [Traffic] : Program consumes a large amount of memory. Finished Successfully : Yes Modules Information Analysing... Finished Successfully : Yes DirectX Information Analysing... Finished Successfully : Yes Font Information Analysing... Finished Successfully : Yes OpenGL Video Information Analysing... Finished Successfully : Yes Services Information Analysing... Tip 2130 : Background Intelligent Transfer Service : Service may be disabled on Home/Professional OS version. Tip 2130 : Help and Support : Service may be disabled on Home/Professional OS version. Tip 2130 : Messenger : Service may be disabled on Home/Professional OS version. Tip 2130 : IPSEC Services : Service may be disabled on Home/Professional OS version. Tip 2130 : Remote Registry : Service may be disabled on Home/Professional OS version. Tip 2130 : Secondary Logon : Service may be disabled on Home/Professional OS version. Tip 2130 : Distributed Link Tracking Client : Service may be disabled on Home/Professional OS version. Finished Successfully : Yes ATA/ATAPI Information Analysing... Warning 3104 : ATA device (fixed) : Current mode not optimal. Check settings. Warning 3104 : ATA device (fixed) : Current mode not optimal. Check settings. Finished Successfully : Yes Performance Tune-up Wizard Finished Successfully : Yes "steve" wrote in message ... ok i ran sisoft sandra and it turns out that my mainboard is too hot. i guess that could be part of the reason...... i`ll keep checking. steve "steve" wrote in message ... yea, i just installed the updates norton and then ran it but it turned up nothing, i think i`ll try sisoft sandra to see if theres a hardware fault. failing that i`ll go to my laast restore point. i ran adaware and xp antispy but found nothing that would slow the machine down that much. i`ll let you know what happens. cheers for the reply steve |
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OK, you are running to hot.
I would recommend taking off your heatsink, wiping away all the excess thermal paste, and reapplying. Not sure if you know this already but you only need a very, very small amount of thermal paste. Just barely enough to cover the chip. Also check the fan on your heatsink to make sure it is still working, and blow out the heatsink to make sure there is no dust, etc in it. Also if you can get the northbridge cooler off, you might want to pull that off and reapply paste to it as well. I have found that with ALOT of boards they put waaaay too much paste on for efficient thermal conductivity. Also what is on your D drive? How much space is left? Try turning off kazaa, and MS_Webcheckmonitor. Like TJ said before run MSCONFIG and uncheck EVERYTHING under the startup tab. then add one thing at atime until you find a *possible* problem component. If you still run too hot after reapplying paste, get a fan and direct it into the case and see if that fixes the problem, you may need a better heatsink. Hope this helps Chris |
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steve wrote:
CPU & BIOS Information Analysing... CPU Temperature : 92.5°C / 198.5°F td Notice 224 : Processor 1 : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate. Warning 238 : Processor 1 : Cooler system thermal resistance too high. Check cooler/transfer material! Warning 239 : Processor 1 : Cooler system thermal resistance higher than recommended. Check it! Warning 215 : Processor 1 : CPU temperature is too high! Check fan(s)! CPU is much, much too hot. You say the build is only a week old. I don't want to insult you as I don't know your level of expertise but are you sure you fitted the HSF correctly? Don't continue to run it like that!! You are risking destroying your CPU, in fact it could already be damaged. Remove the HSF, reapply thermal compound (buy some if you used the thermal pad that came with the AMD CPU, the pad isn't re-usable). Just use enough to barely cover the CPU die with a paper-thin layer and smear a bit onto the base of the HSF where the die contacts it, rub it in with your finger covered in cling-film to fill any irregularities in the HSF contact surface. (Clean all the old compound off first, using preferably isopropyl alcohol or, failing that, meths will do, and a scraping device (credit card or similar) if needed). Make sure you have the HSF fitted the right way around, there is a step in it to accomodate the high side of the socket. (Usually the side you have to clip on is nearest the power supply) Make sure the fan is plugged into the fan header on the mobo correctly and the fan is spinning. Once you have it running install and configure Motherboard Monitor5 and set it to display your CPU temp in the systray so you can keep your eye on it easilly. Good luck. -- ~misfit~ |
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i think you missunderstood, the computer is a few months old, i only
formatted and re-installed windows a week ago. but anyway, as soon as ive had my coffee, i`ll get cracking. "~misfit~" wrote in message ... steve wrote: CPU & BIOS Information Analysing... CPU Temperature : 92.5°C / 198.5°F td Notice 224 : Processor 1 : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate. Warning 238 : Processor 1 : Cooler system thermal resistance too high. Check cooler/transfer material! Warning 239 : Processor 1 : Cooler system thermal resistance higher than recommended. Check it! Warning 215 : Processor 1 : CPU temperature is too high! Check fan(s)! CPU is much, much too hot. You say the build is only a week old. I don't want to insult you as I don't know your level of expertise but are you sure you fitted the HSF correctly? Don't continue to run it like that!! You are risking destroying your CPU, in fact it could already be damaged. Remove the HSF, reapply thermal compound (buy some if you used the thermal pad that came with the AMD CPU, the pad isn't re-usable). Just use enough to barely cover the CPU die with a paper-thin layer and smear a bit onto the base of the HSF where the die contacts it, rub it in with your finger covered in cling-film to fill any irregularities in the HSF contact surface. (Clean all the old compound off first, using preferably isopropyl alcohol or, failing that, meths will do, and a scraping device (credit card or similar) if needed). Make sure you have the HSF fitted the right way around, there is a step in it to accomodate the high side of the socket. (Usually the side you have to clip on is nearest the power supply) Make sure the fan is plugged into the fan header on the mobo correctly and the fan is spinning. Once you have it running install and configure Motherboard Monitor5 and set it to display your CPU temp in the systray so you can keep your eye on it easilly. Good luck. -- ~misfit~ |
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well it blew up!.
yup, i took out the cpu, cleaned all the old paste off, re-applied new paste vacuumed the fans, and stuck it all back together. i checked all the connections, and switched it on. firstly it refused to boot at all. i took it to bits again and checked and re-checked all the connections, put it back together again, switched it on and saw a small puff of smoke eminate from the processor region - at which point i lit a cigarette, inhaled deeply and said the word "********" loudly and clearly. i think the word suited the situation perfectly. i think i will replace the motherboard and the processor this time because a few days ago i posted a post entitled "cd drive weirdness", where the cd drives started acting up - both of them. so i have a feeling that all was not right with the mobo, and this could have contributed to the probs i have - had. well at least this machine works. im holding a memerial service here, in this thread for whoever wants to attend, in memory to a board and a processor that have been in many machines, have stood up to many knocks and power failiures, that have helped me work and play, and have been there im my darkest hours (apart from today that is). AMD (another machine deceased) amen. steve "steve" wrote in message ... i think you missunderstood, the computer is a few months old, i only formatted and re-installed windows a week ago. but anyway, as soon as ive had my coffee, i`ll get cracking. "~misfit~" wrote in message ... steve wrote: CPU & BIOS Information Analysing... CPU Temperature : 92.5°C / 198.5°F td Notice 224 : Processor 1 : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate. Warning 238 : Processor 1 : Cooler system thermal resistance too high. Check cooler/transfer material! Warning 239 : Processor 1 : Cooler system thermal resistance higher than recommended. Check it! Warning 215 : Processor 1 : CPU temperature is too high! Check fan(s)! CPU is much, much too hot. You say the build is only a week old. I don't want to insult you as I don't know your level of expertise but are you sure you fitted the HSF correctly? Don't continue to run it like that!! You are risking destroying your CPU, in fact it could already be damaged. Remove the HSF, reapply thermal compound (buy some if you used the thermal pad that came with the AMD CPU, the pad isn't re-usable). Just use enough to barely cover the CPU die with a paper-thin layer and smear a bit onto the base of the HSF where the die contacts it, rub it in with your finger covered in cling-film to fill any irregularities in the HSF contact surface. (Clean all the old compound off first, using preferably isopropyl alcohol or, failing that, meths will do, and a scraping device (credit card or similar) if needed). Make sure you have the HSF fitted the right way around, there is a step in it to accomodate the high side of the socket. (Usually the side you have to clip on is nearest the power supply) Make sure the fan is plugged into the fan header on the mobo correctly and the fan is spinning. Once you have it running install and configure Motherboard Monitor5 and set it to display your CPU temp in the systray so you can keep your eye on it easilly. Good luck. -- ~misfit~ |
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WORK wrote:
well it blew up!. yup, i took out the cpu, cleaned all the old paste off, re-applied new paste vacuumed the fans, and stuck it all back together. i checked all the connections, and switched it on. firstly it refused to boot at all. i took it to bits again and checked and re-checked all the connections, put it back together again, switched it on and saw a small puff of smoke eminate from the processor region - at which point i lit a cigarette, inhaled deeply and said the word "********" loudly and clearly. i think the word suited the situation perfectly. i think i will replace the motherboard and the processor this time because a few days ago i posted a post entitled "cd drive weirdness", where the cd drives started acting up - both of them. so i have a feeling that all was not right with the mobo, and this could have contributed to the probs i have - had. well at least this machine works. im holding a memerial service here, in this thread for whoever wants to attend, in memory to a board and a processor that have been in many machines, have stood up to many knocks and power failiures, that have helped me work and play, and have been there im my darkest hours (apart from today that is). ~misfit~ has a moment of silence Sorry to hear. -- ~misfit~ |
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