One System Two ATI video cards- AGP AIW and PCI

I just got off the phone with ATI Tech support. One of my questions
was that I was planning on buying a ATI AIW 9600 Pro and using it with
my PCI ATI 7000 to support 3 monitors.

He told me that you could not use more then one ATI display adaptor at
a time. The drivers wouldn't support it. He said I could do it with a
third party PCI card but not with an ATI card.

The more I think about this, the more this does not make sense. Is
anybody running a ATI AIW AGP with a ATI PCI card multi monitor?

Thanks

The more I think about this, the more this does not make sense. Is
anybody running a ATI AIW AGP with a ATI PCI card multi monitor?

AGP and PCI heads run fine together, you'll have no probs.



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wrote:

I just got off the phone with ATI Tech support. One of my questions
was that I was planning on buying a ATI AIW 9600 Pro and using it with
my PCI ATI 7000 to support 3 monitors.

He told me that you could not use more then one ATI display adaptor at
a time. The drivers wouldn't support it. He said I could do it with a
third party PCI card but not with an ATI card.

The more I think about this, the more this does not make sense. Is
anybody running a ATI AIW AGP with a ATI PCI card multi monitor?

Thanks

Tech guy maybe misunderstood you. Two ATI cards yes, two ATI AIW cards
probably not.

I run two ati cards, but they are not both radeons. One is an old AIW
rage 128 pro agp, other is rage pro turbo pci I think (other machine,
not this one). Seems ok to me.

On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 13:12:27 -0800, wrote:

I just got off the phone with ATI Tech support. One of my questions
was that I was planning on buying a ATI AIW 9600 Pro and using it with
my PCI ATI 7000 to support 3 monitors.

He told me that you could not use more then one ATI display adaptor at
a time. The drivers wouldn't support it. He said I could do it with a
third party PCI card but not with an ATI card.

The more I think about this, the more this does not make sense. Is
anybody running a ATI AIW AGP with a ATI PCI card multi monitor?

Thanks

"bob cox" wrote in message
...
I run two ati cards, but they are not both radeons. One is an old AIW
rage 128 pro agp, other is rage pro turbo pci I think (other machine,
not this one). Seems ok to me.

On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 13:12:27 -0800, wrote:

I just got off the phone with ATI Tech support. One of my questions
was that I was planning on buying a ATI AIW 9600 Pro and using it with
my PCI ATI 7000 to support 3 monitors.

He told me that you could not use more then one ATI display adaptor at
a time. The drivers wouldn't support it. He said I could do it with a
third party PCI card but not with an ATI card.


I tried to get an AIW 7500 AGP and a Radeon 7000 PCI to coexist. After a
week of frustration, I gave up. The problem as I understand it is the cards
require differrent drivers but the file names of the driver files are the
same, so when you install your second Radeon card you clobber the driver of
the first. I finally got a Nvidia PCI card and was up and running right
away.

we tried a similar setup at work....unsuccessfully. We had a Radeon 7000 and
3 RageIIC PCI cards, didn't work. Then we tried one Radeon and several old
Matrox Millenium PCI cards (yes...3 of them..we needed to support 4 monitors
and didn't want to buy a $900 video card). On a VIA KT333 board, didn't
work. On an Intel 845E board it did and still does. No problems since and
it's been about 6 months now. We were told it wasn't supposed to work on any
P4 board? But it does in fact work.

wrote in message
...
I just got off the phone with ATI Tech support. One of my questions
was that I was planning on buying a ATI AIW 9600 Pro and using it with
my PCI ATI 7000 to support 3 monitors.

He told me that you could not use more then one ATI display adaptor at
a time. The drivers wouldn't support it. He said I could do it with a
third party PCI card but not with an ATI card.

The more I think about this, the more this does not make sense. Is
anybody running a ATI AIW AGP with a ATI PCI card multi monitor?

Thanks

I tried to get an AIW 7500 AGP and a Radeon 7000 PCI to coexist. After a
week of frustration, I gave up. The problem as I understand it is the cards
require differrent drivers but the file names of the driver files are the
same, so when you install your second Radeon card you clobber the driver of
the first. I finally got a Nvidia PCI card and was up and running right
away.


with the unified driver in place, that makes the most sense..my cards
would have required different drivers for sure..kinda weak on ATI's
part but I suspect the same is true for Geforce since they also use
the UDA....

I run a Radeon 64 DDR VIVO (agp) as primary and a Xpert98 (pci) as
secondary.

I had to first get the Radeon up and going without the Xpert even in the
system. The install would "quit" if the Xpert was in the system as it
appeared to be too stupid to look at "all" the cards in the system. My quess
is the driver was checking pci first, saw the Xpert so stops looking for
anything else, says 'Not a Radeon' and terminates ... stupid ... argh!

After the Radeon was working right, I then installed the Xpert and installed
only the driver. Installing anything else it wanted to resulted in all the
MM features of the Radeon being turned-off/disabled/disappear. Again, it
appears to be installation stupidity with it not looking past the Xpert and
"seeing" there's also a Radeon on the agp bus

As it stands now, the Xpert's driver still interferes with the TV-Out
property sheet control (disables/removes it) so that requires a reboot
without the Xpert enabled (pain in the ass).

Other than that, the system is stable running 98SE.

The biggest problem is the difficulty in updating drivers. I fear a horror
story coming along as it's looking like I can't stay with DX 8.1 forever

wrote:
I just got off the phone with ATI Tech support. One of my questions
was that I was planning on buying a ATI AIW 9600 Pro and using it with
my PCI ATI 7000 to support 3 monitors.

He told me that you could not use more then one ATI display adaptor at
a time. The drivers wouldn't support it. He said I could do it with a
third party PCI card but not with an ATI card.

The more I think about this, the more this does not make sense. Is
anybody running a ATI AIW AGP with a ATI PCI card multi monitor?

Thanks

I am running an AIW 8500 Radeon AGP and an ATI Rage128 Pro PCI card on a
Abit motherboard. I got the system to work but you do have to futz around
with it because of the driver conflicts.
After much trial-and-error I found the following procedure usually works for
driver and MMC software installation:

1 Use the ATI driver registry clean-up utility from ATI's website.
2 Delete the ATI folder on your hard drive.
3 Shut down your system and remove the PCI card from your PC.
4 Reboot and then install the Radeon drivers for your AGP card,
5 Install the MMC software for your AIW card.
6 Get the system working properly (including channel scan, et. al. with the
one video card).
7 Shut down the system and install the PCI card.
8 Install the drivers for the PCI card after boot up.
9 Reboot and then reinstall the AIW drivers (to write over any drivers
installed for the PCI card).

You now should be able to setup multi-monitor support and use the MMC
functionality of the AIW card.

As ATI releases new drivers, you should be able to install them over the top
of the existing ones with no problems.

Have fun,
Stephen

Radeon 7200 & Xpert98 here.

Sounds similar to my difficulties getting things up and going and the steps
you outline seem more or less identical to my experience. Glad to hear one
can simply overinstall later drivers. I've been afraid to do that.

Am i also fairly safe in going to DX9.0b over DX8.1?

Stephen Land wrote:
I am running an AIW 8500 Radeon AGP and an ATI Rage128 Pro PCI card
on a Abit motherboard. I got the system to work but you do have to
futz around with it because of the driver conflicts.
After much trial-and-error I found the following procedure usually
works for driver and MMC software installation:

1 Use the ATI driver registry clean-up utility from ATI's website.
2 Delete the ATI folder on your hard drive.
3 Shut down your system and remove the PCI card from your PC.
4 Reboot and then install the Radeon drivers for your AGP card,
5 Install the MMC software for your AIW card.
6 Get the system working properly (including channel scan, et. al.
with the one video card).
7 Shut down the system and install the PCI card.
8 Install the drivers for the PCI card after boot up.
9 Reboot and then reinstall the AIW drivers (to write over any drivers
installed for the PCI card).

You now should be able to setup multi-monitor support and use the MMC
functionality of the AIW card.

As ATI releases new drivers, you should be able to install them over
the top of the existing ones with no problems.

Have fun,
Stephen