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Old September 9th 04, 11:39 AM
Dregon
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Default Two 7,200 RPM Hard Drives in a Compaq Presario 5000?


I've hooked up another drive in the past to transfer binaries for safe
keeping. If both drives were installed and kept running on a full time
basis, will problems with overheating occur?
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Old September 9th 04, 02:23 PM
Dregon
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John Mann wrote:

On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 00:39:25 -1000, Dregon Dregon@. whipped out
"The Mallet O' Understanding" and bashed *this* into my head:


I've hooked up another drive in the past to transfer binaries for safe
keeping. If both drives were installed and kept running on a full time
basis, will problems with overheating occur?


With adequate cooling, I don't see why. I have two 7,200 rpm drives
right now in my box (which I cobbled together from used parts and an
old Compaq Deskpro case). And my cooling setup isn't even all that
great (just basically the old fan in the Deskpro case, and I've taped
up the unused slots in back). Just make sure they have enough room
between them for air circulation; this is not a problem for me, since
I don't have the original Deskpro case hardware, so one of my drives
is just sitting in one of the internal bays (they need these stupid
Compaq "brackets" to be secure to the chassis) propped up on an old
paperback book with about an inch and a half of space surrounding it
(except for the bottom of the drive, of course).


Don't have the luxury of an open internal bay or any additional space
cause I have two burners in those slots. The only way to utilize
another drive is mounting it in a bracket right next to the existing.
After transferring data from one drive to the other, I noticed just how
much heat can be produced by a 7,200 RPM hard drive. So I guess two
drives using the standard mounting procedure is definitely out of the
question because they are practically a pair of Siamese Twins.

Thanks for the reply -
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Old September 10th 04, 05:19 AM
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In article , Dregon says...

John Mann wrote:

On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 00:39:25 -1000, Dregon Dregon@. whipped out
"The Mallet O' Understanding" and bashed *this* into my head:


I've hooked up another drive in the past to transfer binaries for safe
keeping. If both drives were installed and kept running on a full time
basis, will problems with overheating occur?


With adequate cooling, I don't see why. I have two 7,200 rpm drives
right now in my box (which I cobbled together from used parts and an
old Compaq Deskpro case). And my cooling setup isn't even all that
great (just basically the old fan in the Deskpro case, and I've taped
up the unused slots in back). Just make sure they have enough room
between them for air circulation; this is not a problem for me, since
I don't have the original Deskpro case hardware, so one of my drives
is just sitting in one of the internal bays (they need these stupid
Compaq "brackets" to be secure to the chassis) propped up on an old
paperback book with about an inch and a half of space surrounding it
(except for the bottom of the drive, of course).


Don't have the luxury of an open internal bay or any additional space
cause I have two burners in those slots. The only way to utilize
another drive is mounting it in a bracket right next to the existing.
After transferring data from one drive to the other, I noticed just how
much heat can be produced by a 7,200 RPM hard drive. So I guess two
drives using the standard mounting procedure is definitely out of the
question because they are practically a pair of Siamese Twins.

Thanks for the reply -


I had a Compaq 7ap195 that had the same bracket for the second hard drive.
Well, actually I had to buy it from Compaq. After two months of running a
7200rpm 80g Maxtor, it fried. Now it could have failed for any number of
reasons but I'm betting it was heat. This is a terrible design for a secondary
drive.

When Maxtor replaced the drive, which was under warranty, I moved the system
into a new Chieftec case with 4 hard drive slots, which was on sale at Newegg
for 55 bucks. It now has a proper case and it no longer looks like a Compaq.
There are just too many well designed cheap cases out there to use a case that
was never designed for today's hardware.

Buy this case and, as a bonus, you will also be upgrading your Compaq power
supply. All for $35.00.

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduc...154-017&DEPA=1

Ed

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Old September 10th 04, 05:42 AM
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In article , Ed_ says...

In article , Dregon says...

John Mann wrote:

On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 00:39:25 -1000, Dregon Dregon@. whipped out
"The Mallet O' Understanding" and bashed *this* into my head:


I've hooked up another drive in the past to transfer binaries for safe
keeping. If both drives were installed and kept running on a full time
basis, will problems with overheating occur?

With adequate cooling, I don't see why. I have two 7,200 rpm drives
right now in my box (which I cobbled together from used parts and an
old Compaq Deskpro case). And my cooling setup isn't even all that
great (just basically the old fan in the Deskpro case, and I've taped
up the unused slots in back). Just make sure they have enough room
between them for air circulation; this is not a problem for me, since
I don't have the original Deskpro case hardware, so one of my drives
is just sitting in one of the internal bays (they need these stupid
Compaq "brackets" to be secure to the chassis) propped up on an old
paperback book with about an inch and a half of space surrounding it
(except for the bottom of the drive, of course).


Don't have the luxury of an open internal bay or any additional space
cause I have two burners in those slots. The only way to utilize
another drive is mounting it in a bracket right next to the existing.
After transferring data from one drive to the other, I noticed just how
much heat can be produced by a 7,200 RPM hard drive. So I guess two
drives using the standard mounting procedure is definitely out of the
question because they are practically a pair of Siamese Twins.

Thanks for the reply -


I had a Compaq 7ap195 that had the same bracket for the second hard drive.
Well, actually I had to buy it from Compaq. After two months of running a
7200rpm 80g Maxtor, it fried. Now it could have failed for any number of
reasons but I'm betting it was heat. This is a terrible design for a secondary
drive.

When Maxtor replaced the drive, which was under warranty, I moved the system
into a new Chieftec case with 4 hard drive slots, which was on sale at Newegg
for 55 bucks. It now has a proper case and it no longer looks like a Compaq.
There are just too many well designed cheap cases out there to use a case that
was never designed for today's hardware.

Buy this case and, as a bonus, you will also be upgrading your Compaq power
supply. All for $35.00.

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduc...154-017&DEPA=1

Ed

BTW, here is a link to the photo album that includes pics of the system in it's
original case and in the new Chieftec after I moved it. When the system finally
dies I can put wheels on the case and use it for a Humbvee...

http://groups.msn.com/DesperadosHome...cs.msnw?Page=1

Ed

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Old September 10th 04, 06:19 PM
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Dregon Dregon@. wrote in message . ..

Don't have the luxury of an open internal bay or any
additional space cause I have two burners in those slots.
The only way to utilize another drive is mounting it in
a bracket right next to the existing. After transferring
data from one drive to the other, I noticed just how much
heat can be produced by a 7,200 RPM hard drive. So I guess
two drives using the standard mounting procedure is
definitely out of the question because they are practically
a pair of Siamese Twins.


How about mounting one drive right in front of that vertical drive at
the bottom? Drill some holes in its drive cage and use brass mobo
standoffs to position it away from the cage for better air flow. A
drive could also be hanged vertically from the bottom 5.25" drive bay
or directly on top of the bottom of the case. I now mount all HDs
vertically because I've found that this can cool the hottest chips by
10-20C.
 




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