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Following prompt first aid from the medic "J.Clarke"
managed to scrawl the following bloodstained message On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:29:56 -0500: 1. Don't cross post. Wrong. Cross post to all relevant newsgroups. That is the way USENET is intended to work and that way everybody sees the post, everybody sees the responses, and there is no duplication of effort. Bad nettiquette as you well know. It does cause duplication of effort. Scattergun posting is pointless. 2. Xmas 04. Wrong again. You need it when you encounter an application that uses features not present in DirectX versions earlier than 9, you want to use those features, and you find that enabling them on a board without hardware acceleration of those features (thus forcing use of the software implementation that runs on the main CPU) causes an unacceptable performance penalty. That means that for some folks the answer is "never" while for others it's "yesterday", and for the rest it's somewhere in between. To the OP the answer is "spend the bucks for an upgrade when you encounter something that causes you to notice the lack". Considering the distinct lack of games that actually implement any DX9 features - 2 to date I believe, it would hardly seem worth the effort. By the time they become common place your card will be one if not 2 generations out of date. The mystery features you refer to are more likely than not disabled rather than CPu rendered, but like I said, its not likely that he has a game requiring it hence my realistic time estimate. DX9 comparability is like AGP X8 on a box. Designed to shift units rather than provide anything useful today... --------- Rgds Mike Remove XXX to reply Fools learn from experience, I prefer to learn from others. - Otto Von Bismark WWW.Dead-Fish.Com - Deep Sea Daddies... http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mycollect...s=the_Seahorse |
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Following prompt first aid from the medic "Tim Miser"
managed to scrawl the following bloodstained message On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 23:45:17 GMT: 1. Don't cross post. Why shouldn't one cross post? Because it's rude. See below... http://www.netlingo.com/right.cfm?term=cross%20post --------- Rgds Mike Remove XXX to reply Fools learn from experience, I prefer to learn from others. - Otto Von Bismark WWW.Dead-Fish.Com - Deep Sea Daddies... http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mycollect...s=the_Seahorse |
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"Darthy" wrote in message
... On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:49:41 GMT, (John Lewis) wrote: Updating hardware before the software is available is not a clever use of monetary resources. Agreed... because sometimes, the hardware is outdated. Consider those who rushed out to buy cards specifically for anicipated HL2 needs. With HL2 delayed for 6 months, another generation of video cards will be here, and the current generation will be much less expensive. John Lewis How about those who bought 5900 / 9800 to play Doom3 or even Unreal2 engined games? Doom3 is way late, and for the most part - my Ti4200 handled the modern games quite well... not getting 100fps, but still good. Now days, the 5900 is finally hitting below $200... think of those suckers who blew $500 on those first GF-5800 Ultra cards almost a year ago - which has trouble playing real DX9 games faster than ATI's $175 video card. Which is why I don't jump the gun on hardware upgrades. I watch and see where it goes first. -- Robert Pendell |
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"John" wrote in message om... Anybody know when you'll absolutely need a Directx 9 card to have any fun with games? It seems that games like Halo and Max Payne 2 use Directx 9 features sparingly, and therefore, it's no big deal if I play them on my Directx 8.1 card (which is a GeForce 4 Ti 4200). Are we talking 3-4 months maybe? I'm just trying to get a handle on when to spend the bucks for an upgrade. That's easy, when your games are too slow to play. |
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"Seahorse" wrote in message ... Following prompt first aid from the medic "Tim Miser" managed to scrawl the following bloodstained message On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 23:45:17 GMT: 1. Don't cross post. Why shouldn't one cross post? Because it's rude. See below... http://www.netlingo.com/right.cfm?term=cross%20post All it said was that it is sometimes frowned upon. Frowned upon by whom? I saw a lot of relevant newsgroups included - it wasn't like it was sent to alt.suicide-methods or alt.apocalypse... |
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On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 03:27:58 GMT, "Robert Pendell"
wrote: "Darthy" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:49:41 GMT, (John Lewis) wrote: Updating hardware before the software is available is not a clever use of monetary resources. Agreed... because sometimes, the hardware is outdated. Consider those who rushed out to buy cards specifically for anicipated HL2 needs. With HL2 delayed for 6 months, another generation of video cards will be here, and the current generation will be much less expensive. John Lewis How about those who bought 5900 / 9800 to play Doom3 or even Unreal2 engined games? Doom3 is way late, and for the most part - my Ti4200 handled the modern games quite well... not getting 100fps, but still good. Now days, the 5900 is finally hitting below $200... think of those suckers who blew $500 on those first GF-5800 Ultra cards almost a year ago - which has trouble playing real DX9 games faster than ATI's $175 video card. Which is why I don't jump the gun on hardware upgrades. I watch and see where it goes first. I wait until a game I want needs an upgrade, and then do it. Upgrading in aticipation of a game's release is a waste of money - especially it the game doesn't actually come out for another 6 months. 6 months is a long time in the PC hardware world, and prices dropa lot. On Friday I say a graphics card with 256mb of onboard memory for £100... -- Bunnies aren't just cute like everybody supposes ! They got them hoppy legs and twitchy little noses ! And what's with all the carrots ? What do they need such good eyesight for anyway ? Bunnies ! Bunnies ! It must be BUNNIES ! |
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"Seahorse" wrote in message
... Following prompt first aid from the medic "Tim Miser" managed to scrawl the following bloodstained message On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 23:45:17 GMT: 1. Don't cross post. Why shouldn't one cross post? Because it's rude. See below... http://www.netlingo.com/right.cfm?term=cross%20post I know what cross posting is thank you very much, but you didn't answer my question which was WHY shouldn't one cross post. Because it's frowned upon? Why is it frowned upon? -Tim |
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"Mark Morrison" wrote in message
... I wait until a game I want needs an upgrade, and then do it. Upgrading in aticipation of a game's release is a waste of money - especially it the game doesn't actually come out for another 6 months. 6 months is a long time in the PC hardware world, and prices dropa lot. I couldn't agree with you more. |
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