ATI and HL2 team has screwed nvidia

banshee wrote in message ...
ATI and HL2 team has screwed nvidia.

They did it on purpose, what gaming company would release the first
offical benchmarks that had poor frames on drivers that where old, and
refused to use to the ones that nvida told them to use.

I smell $$$

I may guess..you own a FX card...loser!

But be happy, nvidia will surely build enough cheats and
"optimalisations" in their drivers to make you being able to play
Halflife 2.....at the cost of a whole lot of Image Quality.

Oh also prepare to never be able to run DX9, to slow since the card is
actually UNABLE to run DX9. So you get a lame mix between DX8 and DX9.
Hell...you get where you pay for!

Oh yes, the FX is expensive...yes....ever heard about "buying a cat in
the bag"

But hell, I can only hope the Nv40 truly gets around all those
problems they know they. But for now... the FX is simple said not an
DX9 card!

Oh also prepare to never be able to run DX9, to slow since the card is
actually UNABLE to run DX9. So you get a lame mix between DX8 and DX9.
Hell...you get where you pay for!

Actually, all GFFX cards are perfectly able to run DX9, and that of course
includes Half-Life 2. They just don't do it very quickly, hence Nvidia's
feverish "optimization" efforts and Valve's "mixed" rendering mode. You CAN
run the game in straight DX9, which according to the benches released on the
web reduces performance to around half of the equivalent ATi product. Still,
it runs, if only slowly.

problems they know they. But for now... the FX is simple said not an
DX9 card!

Well, it IS a DX9 card so there. Please get your facts straight.
Thanks...

"Lenny" wrote in message
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Actually, all GFFX cards are perfectly able to run DX9, and that of course
includes Half-Life 2. They just don't do it very quickly, hence Nvidia's
feverish "optimization" efforts and Valve's "mixed" rendering mode. You
CAN
run the game in straight DX9, which according to the benches released on
the
web reduces performance to around half of the equivalent ATi product.
Still,
it runs, if only slowly.

Maybe it's a "DX 9" card in the strictest sense, but it has the worst
price/performance of any card in years. Face it, NVidia didn't count on
developers rapidly shifting over to DX9. They thought they could build a
DX8-9 transition card, one that would beat ATI in benchmarks (and it does,
in DX 8). But people don't buy 400 dollar graphics cards just for current
games, they expect the card to be good in 2 years. Needless to say, NVidia
fooled alot of people.

The only thing I have learned by this how dumb it is to buy high-end
computer hardware for "future proofing" your system. If you think about it,
picking up a Radeon 9600 for around 110-120 bucks and upgrading in a year or
two will cost you alot less than buying a 400 dollar card that gets outdated
in 6 months or a year when then whole industry paradigm shifts.

NVidia isn't going to be fooling me twice. Aside from 4XAA and
8Xanisotropic filtering, the FX 5900 is a paperweight. And frankly I think
the Radeon's antialiasing looks better, so it's going to be back to ATI
with me. NVidia just isn't going to be able to fix this problem.

Baah, put the mouse down and step away from the computer before you hurt
yourself. The only person screwing Nvidia users is NVIDIA. They made the
decision to not stick to standards, they told end users card was perfect DX9
when it isnt, Valve wasted a bunch of extra time and manpower and money
(which you can bet will be passed on to all who buy the game) trying to
solve Nvidia's screwup which they should not have to do in the first place
and you then have the NERVE to say Valve is screwing you. Look to who made
the chip on your card that cant do things the standard way and needs special
handling just to match standards version.

The GFX cards are DX9 cards. They will run DX9 supported
games, but they just do it slower than what should be expected from a
card like the GFX 5900 Ultra. We'll have to wait till the next Nvidia
card to see if they can truly make a card that will beat out the
competion "straight up"... Or find a way to cheat without getting
caught

On 17 Sep 2003 04:19:21 -0700, (Dark Avenger)
wrote:

banshee wrote in message ...
ATI and HL2 team has screwed nvidia.

They did it on purpose, what gaming company would release the first
offical benchmarks that had poor frames on drivers that where old, and
refused to use to the ones that nvida told them to use.

I smell $$$

I may guess..you own a FX card...loser!

But be happy, nvidia will surely build enough cheats and
"optimalisations" in their drivers to make you being able to play
Halflife 2.....at the cost of a whole lot of Image Quality.

Oh also prepare to never be able to run DX9, to slow since the card is
actually UNABLE to run DX9. So you get a lame mix between DX8 and DX9.
Hell...you get where you pay for!

Oh yes, the FX is expensive...yes....ever heard about "buying a cat in
the bag"

But hell, I can only hope the Nv40 truly gets around all those
problems they know they. But for now... the FX is simple said not an
DX9 card!

"Roger Squires" wrote:
ATI and HL2 team has screwed nvidia.

Yes, and Carmack and Nvidia did precisely the same thing with the early
Doom3 benchmarks. Remember those, when it was shown 'conclusively' that the
5800 beat the 9800 hands down?

The wind out of the 5800 was so strong that the testers with Ati cards
couldn't even come in at first when the benchmark started.

Even Carmack got suspicious of all the
Nvidia tweaking surrounding those carefully controlled benchmarking
sessions. 'Ultrashadow' my ass!

After the benchmark tests, there was a pajama party held for the VIP
where people from Nvidia would make shadowpuppet theatre with
flashlights and hands. The crowd favorite shadow was the alligator.

What goes around comes around, Nvidia's bad karma has caught up with
them.

rms

Just wait. GeForce6 Blowtorch will be the best **** you'll ever see.