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On Jan 9, 12:41 pm, elodie wrote: On Jan 9, 10:29 am, Ben Myers wrote: elodie wrote: Hi everyone, I have a dell pc with windows vista on it. I want to install windows xp instead. Last night I thought I would use my windows xp installation disk to wipe out the existing windows vista from the hard drive, format the hard drive and install windows xp instead. But the formatting process stopped at 10%. I thought that the formatting was just taking long and went to bed. But this morning the formatting process was still stuck at 10%. Now when I reboot, all I can do is access the BIOS. I understand that what I did was not very smart. I would much appreciate it if someone could indicate what I should do. Thanks in advance. Having the computer stuck at 10% while formatting may or may not be the sign that the hard drive is failing. Here is what I suggest: 1. It is likely that the formatting operation wiped out the Dell diagnostic partition, but maybe it did not. As a quick check in hope that the diagnostics are still there, power up the system, press the F12 key and select Dell diagnostics. If the diagnostics actually start up (rather than the system simply hanging), run the hard drive diagnostics. 2. If the Dell diagnostics do not run, reboot, press F2 to enter the CMOS setup, and determine the manufacturer of the drive. Finally, download and run the drive manufacturer's free diagnostics. 3. If you want to bypass the disk diagnostics, download COPYWIPE and use it to wipe the drive clean, and then install XP. Google is your friend, not Microsoft's. Use it to find the software you need... Ben Myers Thanks a lot for the help. I will be following your instructions. I was able to access the diagnostics. It said that the hard drive is functionning. So it is not clear to me why I was not able to format the hard drive using the installation CD of Win XP. Thanks again for the help. At this point, I would suggest one of several free bits of utility software to surgically remove the Vista partition from your hard drive, while leaving the diagnostic partition and maybe a recovery partition (?) in place. Vista partitions are different than XP NTFS partitions, and I suspect this to be why the XP format won't work. Cute Partition Manager and Ranish Partition Manager could probably delete the Vista partition, altho Ranish is old enough that it would not identify the Vista partition as such, but rather as some vague (and very large!) partition of unknown type. Google for one or the other, read instructions, and use... Ben Myers |
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On Jan 10, 12:00*am, Ben Myers wrote:
elodie wrote: On Jan 9, 12:41 pm, elodie wrote: On Jan 9, 10:29 am, Ben Myers wrote: elodie wrote: Hi everyone, I have a dell pc with windows vista on it. I want to install windows xp instead. Last night I thought I would use my windows xp installation disk to wipe out the existing windows vista from the hard drive, format the hard drive and install windows xp instead. But the formatting process stopped at 10%. I thought that the formatting was just taking long and went to bed. But this morning the formatting process was still stuck at 10%. Now when I reboot, all I can do is access the BIOS. I understand that what I did was not very smart. I would much appreciate it if someone could indicate what I should do. Thanks in advance. Having the computer stuck at 10% while formatting may or may not be the sign that the hard drive is failing. *Here is what I suggest: 1. It is likely that the formatting operation wiped out the Dell diagnostic partition, but maybe it did not. *As a quick check in hope that the diagnostics are still there, power up the system, press the F12 key and select Dell diagnostics. *If the diagnostics actually start up (rather than the system simply hanging), run the hard drive diagnostics. 2. If the Dell diagnostics do not run, reboot, press F2 to enter the CMOS setup, and determine the manufacturer of the drive. *Finally, download and run the drive manufacturer's free diagnostics. 3. If you want to bypass the disk diagnostics, download COPYWIPE and use it to wipe the drive clean, and then install XP. Google is your friend, not Microsoft's. *Use it to find the software you need... Ben Myers Thanks a lot for the help. I will be following your instructions. I was able to access the diagnostics. It said that the hard drive is functionning. So it is not clear to me why I was not able to format the hard drive using the installation CD of Win XP. Thanks again for the help. At this point, I would suggest one of several free bits of utility software to surgically remove the Vista partition from your hard drive, while leaving the diagnostic partition and maybe a recovery partition (?) in place. *Vista partitions are different than XP NTFS partitions, and I suspect this to be why the XP format won't work. Cute Partition Manager and Ranish Partition Manager could probably delete the Vista partition, altho Ranish is old enough that it would not identify the Vista partition as such, but rather as some vague (and very large!) partition of unknown type. *Google for one or the other, read instructions, and use... Ben Myers Thanks a lot for all the help. I used a different Windows installation CD and it worked. That was easy enough. But I am not sure what the problem was exactly. |
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elodie wrote:
On Jan 10, 12:00 am, Ben Myers wrote: elodie wrote: On Jan 9, 12:41 pm, elodie wrote: On Jan 9, 10:29 am, Ben Myers wrote: elodie wrote: Hi everyone, I have a dell pc with windows vista on it. I want to install windows xp instead. Last night I thought I would use my windows xp installation disk to wipe out the existing windows vista from the hard drive, format the hard drive and install windows xp instead. But the formatting process stopped at 10%. I thought that the formatting was just taking long and went to bed. But this morning the formatting process was still stuck at 10%. Now when I reboot, all I can do is access the BIOS. I understand that what I did was not very smart. I would much appreciate it if someone could indicate what I should do. Thanks in advance. Having the computer stuck at 10% while formatting may or may not be the sign that the hard drive is failing. Here is what I suggest: 1. It is likely that the formatting operation wiped out the Dell diagnostic partition, but maybe it did not. As a quick check in hope that the diagnostics are still there, power up the system, press the F12 key and select Dell diagnostics. If the diagnostics actually start up (rather than the system simply hanging), run the hard drive diagnostics. 2. If the Dell diagnostics do not run, reboot, press F2 to enter the CMOS setup, and determine the manufacturer of the drive. Finally, download and run the drive manufacturer's free diagnostics. 3. If you want to bypass the disk diagnostics, download COPYWIPE and use it to wipe the drive clean, and then install XP. Google is your friend, not Microsoft's. Use it to find the software you need... Ben Myers Thanks a lot for the help. I will be following your instructions. I was able to access the diagnostics. It said that the hard drive is functionning. So it is not clear to me why I was not able to format the hard drive using the installation CD of Win XP. Thanks again for the help. At this point, I would suggest one of several free bits of utility software to surgically remove the Vista partition from your hard drive, while leaving the diagnostic partition and maybe a recovery partition (?) in place. Vista partitions are different than XP NTFS partitions, and I suspect this to be why the XP format won't work. Cute Partition Manager and Ranish Partition Manager could probably delete the Vista partition, altho Ranish is old enough that it would not identify the Vista partition as such, but rather as some vague (and very large!) partition of unknown type. Google for one or the other, read instructions, and use... Ben Myers Thanks a lot for all the help. I used a different Windows installation CD and it worked. That was easy enough. But I am not sure what the problem was exactly. Just strictly a wild-assed guess, but if your system has a SATA drive and you tried to install Windows XP using a Dell "reinstallation CD" with only Service Pack 1, this would explain the difficulty. Microsoft acquiesced to SERIOUS pressure from its major OEMs to do something it claims it never does, namely, to add capabilities to a base release with a service pack. So XP SP2 is the first version of Windows to have built-in support for SATA drives... Ben Myers |
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"Ben Myers" wrote in message ... elodie wrote: On Jan 10, 12:00 am, Ben Myers wrote: elodie wrote: On Jan 9, 12:41 pm, elodie wrote: On Jan 9, 10:29 am, Ben Myers wrote: elodie wrote: Hi everyone, I have a dell pc with windows vista on it. I want to install windows xp instead. Last night I thought I would use my windows xp installation disk to wipe out the existing windows vista from the hard drive, format the hard drive and install windows xp instead. But the formatting process stopped at 10%. I thought that the formatting was just taking long and went to bed. But this morning the formatting process was still stuck at 10%. Now when I reboot, all I can do is access the BIOS. I understand that what I did was not very smart. I would much appreciate it if someone could indicate what I should do. Thanks in advance. Having the computer stuck at 10% while formatting may or may not be the sign that the hard drive is failing. Here is what I suggest: 1. It is likely that the formatting operation wiped out the Dell diagnostic partition, but maybe it did not. As a quick check in hope that the diagnostics are still there, power up the system, press the F12 key and select Dell diagnostics. If the diagnostics actually start up (rather than the system simply hanging), run the hard drive diagnostics. 2. If the Dell diagnostics do not run, reboot, press F2 to enter the CMOS setup, and determine the manufacturer of the drive. Finally, download and run the drive manufacturer's free diagnostics. 3. If you want to bypass the disk diagnostics, download COPYWIPE and use it to wipe the drive clean, and then install XP. Google is your friend, not Microsoft's. Use it to find the software you need... Ben Myers Thanks a lot for the help. I will be following your instructions. I was able to access the diagnostics. It said that the hard drive is functionning. So it is not clear to me why I was not able to format the hard drive using the installation CD of Win XP. Thanks again for the help. At this point, I would suggest one of several free bits of utility software to surgically remove the Vista partition from your hard drive, while leaving the diagnostic partition and maybe a recovery partition (?) in place. Vista partitions are different than XP NTFS partitions, and I suspect this to be why the XP format won't work. Cute Partition Manager and Ranish Partition Manager could probably delete the Vista partition, altho Ranish is old enough that it would not identify the Vista partition as such, but rather as some vague (and very large!) partition of unknown type. Google for one or the other, read instructions, and use... Ben Myers Thanks a lot for all the help. I used a different Windows installation CD and it worked. That was easy enough. But I am not sure what the problem was exactly. Just strictly a wild-assed guess, but if your system has a SATA drive and you tried to install Windows XP using a Dell "reinstallation CD" with only Service Pack 1, this would explain the difficulty. Microsoft acquiesced to SERIOUS pressure from its major OEMs to do something it claims it never does, namely, to add capabilities to a base release with a service pack. So XP SP2 is the first version of Windows to have built-in support for SATA drives... Ben Myers So, what you are saying is that the only way to get Windows XP onto a SATA drive is with a disc that has SP2 on it? Reason I am asking, is I am about to upgrade the drive in my computer to SATA from PATA (has both connections), and wanted to remove the PATA completed. The copy of windows XP that I have is an orginal retail disc with no SPs. Any suggestions? |
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John Novicki Jr typed on Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:13:55 -0500: "Ben Myers" wrote in message ... [...] Microsoft acquiesced to SERIOUS pressure from its major OEMs to do something it claims it never does, namely, to add capabilities to a base release with a service pack. So XP SP2 is the first version of Windows to have built-in support for SATA drives... Ben Myers So, what you are saying is that the only way to get Windows XP onto a SATA drive is with a disc that has SP2 on it? Reason I am asking, is I am about to upgrade the drive in my computer to SATA from PATA (has both connections), and wanted to remove the PATA completed. The copy of windows XP that I have is an orginal retail disc with no SPs. Any suggestions? I heard nLite (freeware) can merge SP to an original Windows install without SP. Then you use the newly created install disc instead. -- Bill 2 Gateway MX6124 - Windows XP SP2 3 Asus EEE PC 701G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC 2 Asus EEE PC 702G8 ~ 1GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC Windows XP SP2 ~ Xandros Linux - Puppy - Ubuntu |
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John Novicki Jr wrote:
"Ben Myers" wrote in message ... elodie wrote: On Jan 10, 12:00 am, Ben Myers wrote: elodie wrote: On Jan 9, 12:41 pm, elodie wrote: On Jan 9, 10:29 am, Ben Myers wrote: elodie wrote: Hi everyone, I have a dell pc with windows vista on it. I want to install windows xp instead. Last night I thought I would use my windows xp installation disk to wipe out the existing windows vista from the hard drive, format the hard drive and install windows xp instead. But the formatting process stopped at 10%. I thought that the formatting was just taking long and went to bed. But this morning the formatting process was still stuck at 10%. Now when I reboot, all I can do is access the BIOS. I understand that what I did was not very smart. I would much appreciate it if someone could indicate what I should do. Thanks in advance. Having the computer stuck at 10% while formatting may or may not be the sign that the hard drive is failing. Here is what I suggest: 1. It is likely that the formatting operation wiped out the Dell diagnostic partition, but maybe it did not. As a quick check in hope that the diagnostics are still there, power up the system, press the F12 key and select Dell diagnostics. If the diagnostics actually start up (rather than the system simply hanging), run the hard drive diagnostics. 2. If the Dell diagnostics do not run, reboot, press F2 to enter the CMOS setup, and determine the manufacturer of the drive. Finally, download and run the drive manufacturer's free diagnostics. 3. If you want to bypass the disk diagnostics, download COPYWIPE and use it to wipe the drive clean, and then install XP. Google is your friend, not Microsoft's. Use it to find the software you need... Ben Myers Thanks a lot for the help. I will be following your instructions. I was able to access the diagnostics. It said that the hard drive is functionning. So it is not clear to me why I was not able to format the hard drive using the installation CD of Win XP. Thanks again for the help. At this point, I would suggest one of several free bits of utility software to surgically remove the Vista partition from your hard drive, while leaving the diagnostic partition and maybe a recovery partition (?) in place. Vista partitions are different than XP NTFS partitions, and I suspect this to be why the XP format won't work. Cute Partition Manager and Ranish Partition Manager could probably delete the Vista partition, altho Ranish is old enough that it would not identify the Vista partition as such, but rather as some vague (and very large!) partition of unknown type. Google for one or the other, read instructions, and use... Ben Myers Thanks a lot for all the help. I used a different Windows installation CD and it worked. That was easy enough. But I am not sure what the problem was exactly. Just strictly a wild-assed guess, but if your system has a SATA drive and you tried to install Windows XP using a Dell "reinstallation CD" with only Service Pack 1, this would explain the difficulty. Microsoft acquiesced to SERIOUS pressure from its major OEMs to do something it claims it never does, namely, to add capabilities to a base release with a service pack. So XP SP2 is the first version of Windows to have built-in support for SATA drives... Ben Myers So, what you are saying is that the only way to get Windows XP onto a SATA drive is with a disc that has SP2 on it? Reason I am asking, is I am about to upgrade the drive in my computer to SATA from PATA (has both connections), and wanted to remove the PATA completed. The copy of windows XP that I have is an orginal retail disc with no SPs. Any suggestions? SP2 (or SP3) is not the ONLY way to get XP onto a system with a SATA drive, but it is the EASY way, hands down. If you try to install XP classic original bug-filled rot or XP SP1, you will be prompted to hit the F6 key early on to install drivers. At that point, you must have the required software drivers organized onto ONLY a floppy diskette to install them. Depending on which model of computer you have, you may also be able to configure the BIOS to operate SATA drives in a parallel ATA compatibility mode. If this is possible, you can install retail XP, but the drive and the system will run a bit slower... Ben Myers |
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BillW50 wrote:
In , John Novicki Jr typed on Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:13:55 -0500: "Ben Myers" wrote in message ... [...] Microsoft acquiesced to SERIOUS pressure from its major OEMs to do something it claims it never does, namely, to add capabilities to a base release with a service pack. So XP SP2 is the first version of Windows to have built-in support for SATA drives... Ben Myers So, what you are saying is that the only way to get Windows XP onto a SATA drive is with a disc that has SP2 on it? Reason I am asking, is I am about to upgrade the drive in my computer to SATA from PATA (has both connections), and wanted to remove the PATA completed. The copy of windows XP that I have is an orginal retail disc with no SPs. Any suggestions? I heard nLite (freeware) can merge SP to an original Windows install without SP. Then you use the newly created install disc instead. Good thought, Bill. I have to look at nLite, because the tools I have for slipstreaming are clumsy. The OP can download SP2 (or even SP3) and slipstream it with his retail XP to end up with something that will install onto a SATA without a problem... Ben Myers |
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John Novicki Jr wrote:
"Ben Myers" wrote in message ... elodie wrote: On Jan 10, 12:00 am, Ben Myers wrote: elodie wrote: On Jan 9, 12:41 pm, elodie wrote: On Jan 9, 10:29 am, Ben Myers wrote: elodie wrote: Hi everyone, I have a dell pc with windows vista on it. I want to install windows xp instead. Last night I thought I would use my windows xp installation disk to wipe out the existing windows vista from the hard drive, format the hard drive and install windows xp instead. But the formatting process stopped at 10%. I thought that the formatting was just taking long and went to bed. But this morning the formatting process was still stuck at 10%. Now when I reboot, all I can do is access the BIOS. I understand that what I did was not very smart. I would much appreciate it if someone could indicate what I should do. Thanks in advance. Having the computer stuck at 10% while formatting may or may not be the sign that the hard drive is failing. Here is what I suggest: 1. It is likely that the formatting operation wiped out the Dell diagnostic partition, but maybe it did not. As a quick check in hope that the diagnostics are still there, power up the system, press the F12 key and select Dell diagnostics. If the diagnostics actually start up (rather than the system simply hanging), run the hard drive diagnostics. 2. If the Dell diagnostics do not run, reboot, press F2 to enter the CMOS setup, and determine the manufacturer of the drive. Finally, download and run the drive manufacturer's free diagnostics. 3. If you want to bypass the disk diagnostics, download COPYWIPE and use it to wipe the drive clean, and then install XP. Google is your friend, not Microsoft's. Use it to find the software you need... Ben Myers Thanks a lot for the help. I will be following your instructions. I was able to access the diagnostics. It said that the hard drive is functionning. So it is not clear to me why I was not able to format the hard drive using the installation CD of Win XP. Thanks again for the help. At this point, I would suggest one of several free bits of utility software to surgically remove the Vista partition from your hard drive, while leaving the diagnostic partition and maybe a recovery partition (?) in place. Vista partitions are different than XP NTFS partitions, and I suspect this to be why the XP format won't work. Cute Partition Manager and Ranish Partition Manager could probably delete the Vista partition, altho Ranish is old enough that it would not identify the Vista partition as such, but rather as some vague (and very large!) partition of unknown type. Google for one or the other, read instructions, and use... Ben Myers Thanks a lot for all the help. I used a different Windows installation CD and it worked. That was easy enough. But I am not sure what the problem was exactly. Just strictly a wild-assed guess, but if your system has a SATA drive and you tried to install Windows XP using a Dell "reinstallation CD" with only Service Pack 1, this would explain the difficulty. Microsoft acquiesced to SERIOUS pressure from its major OEMs to do something it claims it never does, namely, to add capabilities to a base release with a service pack. So XP SP2 is the first version of Windows to have built-in support for SATA drives... Ben Myers So, what you are saying is that the only way to get Windows XP onto a SATA drive is with a disc that has SP2 on it? Reason I am asking, is I am about to upgrade the drive in my computer to SATA from PATA (has both connections), and wanted to remove the PATA completed. The copy of windows XP that I have is an orginal retail disc with no SPs. Any suggestions? I created SP2 and SP3 versions using a product called AutoStreamer. It's not a complicated process. Good luck! |
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"Ben Myers" wrote in message ... John Novicki Jr wrote: "Ben Myers" wrote in message ... elodie wrote: On Jan 10, 12:00 am, Ben Myers wrote: elodie wrote: On Jan 9, 12:41 pm, elodie wrote: On Jan 9, 10:29 am, Ben Myers wrote: elodie wrote: Hi everyone, I have a dell pc with windows vista on it. I want to install windows xp instead. Last night I thought I would use my windows xp installation disk to wipe out the existing windows vista from the hard drive, format the hard drive and install windows xp instead. But the formatting process stopped at 10%. I thought that the formatting was just taking long and went to bed. But this morning the formatting process was still stuck at 10%. Now when I reboot, all I can do is access the BIOS. I understand that what I did was not very smart. I would much appreciate it if someone could indicate what I should do. Thanks in advance. Having the computer stuck at 10% while formatting may or may not be the sign that the hard drive is failing. Here is what I suggest: 1. It is likely that the formatting operation wiped out the Dell diagnostic partition, but maybe it did not. As a quick check in hope that the diagnostics are still there, power up the system, press the F12 key and select Dell diagnostics. If the diagnostics actually start up (rather than the system simply hanging), run the hard drive diagnostics. 2. If the Dell diagnostics do not run, reboot, press F2 to enter the CMOS setup, and determine the manufacturer of the drive. Finally, download and run the drive manufacturer's free diagnostics. 3. If you want to bypass the disk diagnostics, download COPYWIPE and use it to wipe the drive clean, and then install XP. Google is your friend, not Microsoft's. Use it to find the software you need... Ben Myers Thanks a lot for the help. I will be following your instructions. I was able to access the diagnostics. It said that the hard drive is functionning. So it is not clear to me why I was not able to format the hard drive using the installation CD of Win XP. Thanks again for the help. At this point, I would suggest one of several free bits of utility software to surgically remove the Vista partition from your hard drive, while leaving the diagnostic partition and maybe a recovery partition (?) in place. Vista partitions are different than XP NTFS partitions, and I suspect this to be why the XP format won't work. Cute Partition Manager and Ranish Partition Manager could probably delete the Vista partition, altho Ranish is old enough that it would not identify the Vista partition as such, but rather as some vague (and very large!) partition of unknown type. Google for one or the other, read instructions, and use... Ben Myers Thanks a lot for all the help. I used a different Windows installation CD and it worked. That was easy enough. But I am not sure what the problem was exactly. Just strictly a wild-assed guess, but if your system has a SATA drive and you tried to install Windows XP using a Dell "reinstallation CD" with only Service Pack 1, this would explain the difficulty. Microsoft acquiesced to SERIOUS pressure from its major OEMs to do something it claims it never does, namely, to add capabilities to a base release with a service pack. So XP SP2 is the first version of Windows to have built-in support for SATA drives... Ben Myers So, what you are saying is that the only way to get Windows XP onto a SATA drive is with a disc that has SP2 on it? Reason I am asking, is I am about to upgrade the drive in my computer to SATA from PATA (has both connections), and wanted to remove the PATA completed. The copy of windows XP that I have is an orginal retail disc with no SPs. Any suggestions? SP2 (or SP3) is not the ONLY way to get XP onto a system with a SATA drive, but it is the EASY way, hands down. If you try to install XP classic original bug-filled rot or XP SP1, you will be prompted to hit the F6 key early on to install drivers. At that point, you must have the required software drivers organized onto ONLY a floppy diskette to install them. Depending on which model of computer you have, you may also be able to configure the BIOS to operate SATA drives in a parallel ATA compatibility mode. If this is possible, you can install retail XP, but the drive and the system will run a bit slower... Ben Myers Good to know, although I must say I am more inclined to hold off on doing this now. Thanks. |
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