Thoughts on Vista

Ed Medlin wrote:
"JAD" wrote in message
...
take a cab to the xinux temple down the road..........



When they start trying to train all these folks they will find out why most
of these migrations to Linux end up coming back to Windows. I have nothing
against Linux at all, I have it on a couple of systems myself, but for the
average workstation, especially when you have ex-Windows users, it just
doesn't work out financially.

Ed

I just don't understand what is wrong---so many people heading big
government IT operations seem to be crazy. Massachusetts, Munich,
Indiana, Brazil, Dutch cities, Belgium all keep trying to switch to open
source. Those guys just don't seem to learn. They must not know what
you know.

I wrote:

Here is some of the latest from Munich. It seems that they are still on
track, although behind the original schedule:

http://www.heise.de/english/newsticker/news/80071
http://www.infoworld.com/article/06/...nsource_1.html


See also the situation in the Indiana schools:

http://www.crn.com/sections/breaking...leId=192201386
Hoosier Daddy? In Indiana Schools, It's Linux

By Edward F. Moltzen, CRN
4:10 PM EDT Wed. Aug. 16, 2006

How's this for back-to-school fashion: More than 20,000 Indiana students
are now Linux-enabled under a state grant program to roll out low-cost,
easy-to-manage workstations, which are running various flavors of the
open-source operating system.

http://education.zdnet.com/?p=414
http://www.google.com/search?as_q=in...ghts=&safe=off

Not only Munich and Indiana High Schools are still going forward, but so
is Massachusetts IT.

Here is an excerpt from the Mid-Year Statement Regarding ODF
Implementation, by Louis Gutierrez,Chief Information Officer,
Information Technology Division, Commonwealth of Massachusetts, August
23, 2006, found at
http://www.mass.gov/?pageID=itdmodul..._ltr&csid=Aitd

Specifically, we plan to implement ODF, using translator technology plugged in to Microsoft Office, in a group of early adopter agencies, including the Massachusetts Office on Disability, by January 1, 2007. Thereafter, we plan to migrate all Executive Department agencies to compliance with the standard, in phases, by June of 2007.


This shows that ODF is still preferred in Massachusetts:

http://www.computerworld.com/action/...nt src=kc_top

State’s Snub on File Formats Caught Microsoft by Surprise
Carol Sliwa

December 04, 2006 (Computerworld) -- According to an e-mail written by a Massachusetts official, Microsoft was given just over 30 days advance warning that the state’s IT division wouldn’t be including Office Open XML as an acceptable file format in a draft of Version 3.5 of its open-standards blueprint posted online on Aug. 31, 2005.


http://blogs.sun.com/dancer/entry/la...upporting_open

http://www.ososs.nl/attachment.db?63959 (PDF, in Dutch)

http://digg.com/software/Eight_large...urce_solutions

Updated:2006-12-22 12:11:30
City of Amsterdam announces experiment with open-source software
AP
AMSTERDAM, Netherlands (AP) - The City of Amsterdam said Friday it will spend euro300,000 (US$400,00) testing open source software in two administrative districts in 2007, in a potential blow for the city's current main supplier, Microsoft Corp.


http://www.enabledpeople.com/blog/20...eptember-2006/

EnabledPeople & partners deploys 50,000 Linux desktops in Brazil January 6

BitWay Computadores, Imtech Brazil and EnabledPeople launch massive deployments of Linux PCs with preinstalled Linux XP Desktop software for Brazil goverment program

MOSCOW, RUSSIA - January 16, 2007. BitWay Computadores, EnabledPeople and IMTECH Brazil companies today announced that they made large PC desktops deployments for «Computers for All» Brazil federal goverment program. Ready PC solution provided by Bitway includes preinstalled Linux XP Desktop operating system developed by EnabledPeople and supported by IMTECH. Estimated month deployment is about 10.000 desktops with 50.000 desktops already delivered.

The Project «Connected Citizen - Computer for All» is a part of the Brazilian Program of Digital Inclusion of the Federal Government, initiated into 2003. The «Computer for All» objective is to promote digital inclusion to the population and to boost technological development. The program provides better conditions for the purchase of new personal computers manufactured in Brazil and equipped with open-source software. The software must meet an official specifications, work on Portuguese language and have a technical support on Portuguese.

Linux XP Desktop is a user-friendly desktop operating system for home and office users. With a preinstalled version, a user gets an applications set including OpenOffice package (supports .DOC, .XLS, .PPT formats), corporate class Evolution e-mail client, Firefox web browser, multi-protocol GAIM instant messenger and other software. Linux XP Desktop is RedHat-compatible OS and therefore has a maximum of other software available.

On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 02:47:37 GMT, Matt
wrote:

I just don't understand what is wrong---so many people heading big
government IT operations seem to be crazy. Massachusetts, Munich,
Indiana, Brazil, Dutch cities, Belgium all keep trying to switch to open
source. Those guys just don't seem to learn. They must not know what
you know.

Perhaps they enjoy permanent job security.

Matt wrote:
snip 91 lines of rubbish
I just don't understand what is wrong--


Don't post your off topic garbage to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt again.

"Jaques Ammer" yby lbhefghcvq.vgl wrote:

Matt wrote:
snip 91 lines of rubbish
I just don't understand what is wrong--


Don't post your off topic garbage to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
again.

You're being facetious, right?

"Matt" wrote in message
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Ed Medlin wrote:
"JAD" wrote in message
...
take a cab to the xinux temple down the road..........



When they start trying to train all these folks they will find out why
most
of these migrations to Linux end up coming back to Windows. I have
nothing
against Linux at all, I have it on a couple of systems myself, but for
the
average workstation, especially when you have ex-Windows users, it just
doesn't work out financially.

Ed

I just don't understand what is wrong---so many people heading big
government IT operations seem to be crazy. Massachusetts, Munich,
Indiana, Brazil, Dutch cities, Belgium all keep

trying to switch to open
source.

keyword 'TRYING'

Those guys just don't seem to learn. They must not know what
you know.


'snipped huge amount of bs'.

"JAD" kapasitor earthcharter.net wrote:

take a cab to the xinux temple down the road..........

Says the netcop wanna-be troll with an aging system. The two go hand
in hand. Microsoft is stifling high technology by keeping the
Windows source code closed. Closed source adds to the other factors
that give Microsoft a stranglehold on the applications market.
Closed source also reduces trust among the masses. People will not
willingly accept powerful devices that are run by hidden code.
Closed source has no place in the future IMO except maybe in
military applications.

Linux is hardly viable for most personal computer users, but like
Windows it will install on a personal computer therefore generally
it is not off-topic in this group.










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